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Starks
07/07/23 3:06:17 PM
#101:


The implication here is that the person that originally possessed that 48k might have been a victim in their own right and has no recourse now.

But yeah, this is why you want to be documented.

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IdiotMachine
07/07/23 3:07:14 PM
#102:


Alucard188 posted...
So, what? Someone opened up a fraudulent investment account with the same company you have your securities with? Your details and everything? The company has to be big, yeah? Wonder how many more people had fraudulent investment accounts opened up at Vanguard. Find some more information out, and maybe get some investigative journalism going. This is something that shouldn't be happening.
So I had a Betterment Roth IRA. And I didnt like how they were doing over the past 5 years or so since Ive had them, so I decided to open up a Vanguard account a week or two ago. However, I couldnt open one; the website kept saying to call.

I called and they said my SSN was tied with someone elses name and address. To prove I am who I am, they told me to send in a W9 IRS form. I did that last week. I guess once they verified it was fraudulent, they corrected the error

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Tyranthraxus
07/07/23 3:08:17 PM
#103:


Gritty posted...
I wonder if they can trace who committed fraud

They probably already did.

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IdiotMachine
07/07/23 3:08:27 PM
#104:


I am kind of shocked that there are no verification set to confirm the SSN and who opened it, and Vanguard just let it happen. I have no idea how I would have even figured this shit out, since its not like its a credit account; it wont show up on a credit report.

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Starks
07/07/23 3:09:39 PM
#105:


Vanguard is pretty old school with their systems, so I'm not entirely surprised that this would happen to them.

Nonetheless, I'm happy with Vanguard and their funds.

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IdiotMachine
07/07/23 3:23:11 PM
#107:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Nope, it was all over the phone. I asked for a letter, and they said they will send me one once investigation concludes. Regardless, they said theyll send me a tax form.

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Pikachuchupika
07/07/23 3:25:42 PM
#108:


So you're going to buy everyone in this topic a video game right TC?
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Strider102
07/07/23 3:28:10 PM
#109:


Pikachuchupika posted...
So you're going to buy everyone in this topic a video game right TC?

Sounds fair to me

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ChrisTaka
07/07/23 3:30:29 PM
#111:


IdiotMachine posted...
the money is mine, and I do not have to return any of it or anything.

so when are you sharing with me

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Requiem
07/07/23 3:34:11 PM
#112:


Starks posted...
The implication here is that the person that originally possessed that 48k might have been a victim in their own right and has no recourse now.

But yeah, this is why you want to be documented.

Fuck whomever.
The person was stealing the TC's ID.

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Despised
07/07/23 3:44:57 PM
#114:


Holy shit congrats tc lmao

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Nintendo_Porn
07/07/23 4:00:38 PM
#115:


Good shit - hope the scammer is cursing their ass off somewhere in a third world country.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/07/23 4:01:26 PM
#116:


Eat_More_Beef posted...
Tagging this topic for results. I'm invested in the outcome now.


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Requiem
07/07/23 4:02:47 PM
#117:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
Good shit - hope the scammer is cursing their ass off somewhere in a third world country.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/1/4/AAAgM2AAEozi.jpg

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Nasty_Nitro
07/07/23 4:08:59 PM
#119:


IdiotMachine posted...
Regardless, I will definitely talk to the bank tomorrow in person at a branch about it. I have no desire to spend it, as I know bank errors are never in your favor.

its literally no play time with that money


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Requiem
07/07/23 4:24:17 PM
#120:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
Good shit - hope the scammer is cursing their ass off somewhere in a third world country.

Hey, America isn't that bad.

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Cemith
07/07/23 4:45:41 PM
#121:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
Good shit - hope the scammer is cursing their ass off somewhere in a third world country.


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IdiotMachine
07/07/23 5:15:39 PM
#122:


GranolaPanic posted...
Wow. This was an interesting topic to read through. So you really get to keep it without any fear or consequences?
Im still going to just keep it in a savings account for some time to see what happens. Dont want to put it in investments and lose some of it or whatnot.

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Punished_Blinx
07/07/23 5:17:40 PM
#123:


Sounds like Vanguard already made their decision for what to do with the money.

It is a bit weird they didn't find a potential victim but maybe they can't. At this point I think they'd be liable if someone wanted to claim those funds.

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CableZL
07/07/23 5:20:27 PM
#124:


Do you remember that time I loaned you $48,000?

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Nintendo_Porn
07/07/23 5:24:03 PM
#126:


I know it may be tempting, but DO NOT change your spending habits, or act like you have a safety net - far as you are concerned that money should still be considered "dirty" for at least two months.

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IdiotMachine
07/07/23 5:29:18 PM
#127:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Sounds like Vanguard already made their decision for what to do with the money.

It is a bit weird they didn't find a potential victim but maybe they can't. At this point I think they'd be liable if someone wanted to claim those funds.
It might have been my line of questioning. I was asking if I need to file a fraud claim with the SEC and if I need to lawyer up, and they were just telling me to not to worry lol

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Tyranthraxus
07/07/23 5:31:50 PM
#128:


IdiotMachine posted...
It might have been my line of questioning. I was asking if I need to file a fraud claim with the SEC and if I need to lawyer up, and they were just telling me to not to worry lol

In my opinion, don't spend it until after you've filed your taxes in a few months. Once you've filed your taxes and you're not being audited, then you can consider it yours.

Do the smart thing and waste it all on OTM Calls with a 2 week expiration.

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CobraGT
07/07/23 5:32:01 PM
#129:


Anony1125 posted...
Last time I received random money it was from the IRS, and they then not only demanded it back, but interest on it as well like some weird-ass shady loan sharks. Hope your experience is better than mine.

Interest?

@Anony1125

Did you have to pay the interest?

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Punished_Blinx
07/07/23 5:35:00 PM
#130:


At the very least Vanguard do know a lot more and they're not going to tell you.

For whatever reason they think the best way to resolve whatever this is was to send you the money. They ain't gonna make that decision lightly. They know how difficult it could potentially be to get those funds back.

Doesn't hurt to be safe but it sounds like you'll be fine.

Thinking about it I wonder if Vanguard fucked up somewhere. They can't keep the money so they've forwarded it to you and if any victims come forward (there could be several) they'll just pay them out of their own pocket.

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Anony1125
07/07/23 5:39:54 PM
#131:


CobraGT posted...
Interest?

@Anony1125

Did you have to pay the interest?
Yes. They put like $2500 into my account for no discernible reason, advised me to hold onto it while they figured it out, then billed me for like $2540 two months later, broken down as the original and then like $40 in interest fees. I mean it's only $40, but it's the principle of the thing. Felt shady af. If you want the money back, tell me to send the money back. Why the hell would you jump right into charging interest on money you gave me in error? So weird. TC's experience sounds much better tbh.

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CFallenWarrior
07/07/23 5:55:02 PM
#132:


That's my money, and I would like you to return it to me in the form of Target gift cards.
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Sir_Will
07/08/23 2:01:22 AM
#133:


Well... that's certainly the best case scenario ending of identity theft....

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Revelation34
07/08/23 3:36:01 AM
#134:


How much money do you reasonably need to invest with a Vanguard account?

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Starks
07/08/23 8:14:36 AM
#135:


At least 50k if you want Personal Advisor Services team to manage it for you

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