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IdiotMachine 07/08/23 12:21:18 PM #1:	Like saying people of a certain ethnic group are all good at math or know how to fight; is that bad? --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:974705835] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Like saying people of a certain ethnic group are all good at math or know how to fight; is that bad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 07/08/23 12:22:27 PM #2:	Italians make good food. ~So, no, not all stereotypes are bad. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:974705859] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Italians make good food. ~So, no, not all stereotypes are bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 07/08/23 12:23:23 PM #4:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:974705878] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueAnnihilator 07/08/23 12:25:25 PM #5:	Yeah, it's still ignorant. And I've seen instances of people who don't live up to them getting made fun of. --- I agree with you, Blue. - FinalRockerdude, Vgmasta, ZeldaFan42, ObservanTeMK, Magoo111, E121Phi, re4master543, PJiddy, bloodmage3 (cont. in quote) <cite>BlueAnnihilator posted [p:974705899] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, it's still ignorant. And I've seen instances of people who don't live up to them getting made fun of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/08/23 12:26:14 PM #6:	Ultimately yes. Consider that you're holding all members of that ethnic group to the same standard. What does it say of someone who is part of that ethnic group that doesn't conform to that stereotype? --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:974705906] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Ultimately yes.Consider that you're holding all members of that ethnic group to the same standard. What does it say of someone who is part of that ethnic group that doesn't conform to that stereotype?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 07/08/23 12:27:00 PM #7:	Yes. Do you not see how it could be harmful to assume someone was good at maths, or fighting because of their race? I suspect that you do. --- (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang <cite>ai123 posted [p:974705919] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Yes.Do you not see how it could be harmful to assume someone was good at maths, or fighting because of their race?I suspect that you do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 07/08/23 12:31:04 PM #9:	SiO4 posted... Italians make good food. ~So, no, not all stereotypes are bad. Not saying that there arent good stereotypes, but rather asking if it would be offensive to say what you just said- Italians make good food. Speaking of Italians, making hand gestures of stereotypical Italian origin seems to be acceptable; Ive never seen people get angry over it, and hell, theres a legit emoji of it --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:974705978] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>SiO4 posted... </cite><quote>Italians make good food. ~So, no, not all stereotypes are bad.</quote>Not saying that there arent good stereotypes, but rather asking if it would be offensive to say what you just said- Italians make good food.Speaking of Italians, making hand gestures of stereotypical Italian origin seems to be acceptable; Ive never seen people get angry over it, and hell, theres a legit emoji of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 07/08/23 12:36:18 PM #10:	Pigeonholing people into specific interests because of their genetic makeup isn't good, no. <cite>Raikuro posted [p:974706051] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Pigeonholing people into specific interests because of their genetic makeup isn't good, no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/08/23 12:36:19 PM #11:	Liu_Kano posted... Being Jewish helps people get high-level employment (they basically own entire industries), I don't see how that's a bad thing. How long until this is modded? --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974706052] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Liu_Kano posted... </cite><quote>Being Jewish helps people get high-level employment (they basically own entire industries), I don't see how that's a bad thing.</quote>How long until this is modded?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 07/08/23 12:37:24 PM #12:	"women are sweet and non-violent." A technically positive stereotype that can lead to multiple layers of issues. <cite>PBusted posted [p:974706062] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>"women are sweet and non-violent." A technically positive stereotype that can lead to multiple layers of issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 07/08/23 12:38:41 PM #13:	IdiotMachine posted... Like saying people of a certain ethnic group are all good at math or know how to fight; is that bad? I'd say yes. Judge people on the actual individual merits they show. Not imo ignorant stereotypes. IMO what people sometimes view as a compliment "good stereotype" is more insulting than flattering. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974706081] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>Like saying people of a certain ethnic group are all good at math or know how to fight; is that bad?</quote>I'd say yes.Judge people on the actual individual merits they show. Not imo ignorant stereotypes.IMO what people sometimes view as a compliment "good stereotype" is more insulting than flattering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 07/08/23 12:41:53 PM #15:	Liu_Kano posted... I don't see how that's a bad thing. I don't even know where to begin explaining --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:974706124] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Liu_Kano posted... </cite><quote>I don't see how that's a bad thing.</quote>I don't even know where to begin explaining</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 07/08/23 12:51:32 PM #16:	Okay to talk about them, but not okay to assume they apply to an individual --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:974706311] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Okay to talk about them, but not okay to assume they apply to an individual </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/08/23 12:53:26 PM #17:	https://youtu.be/YX19-S4-V54 --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:974706341] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/YX19-S4-V54</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 07/08/23 12:53:59 PM #18:	bsp77 posted... How long until this is modded? Guy got warned: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Liu_Kano --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:974706352] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>How long until this is modded?</quote>Guy got warned:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Liu_Kano</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NatsuSama 07/08/23 1:14:15 PM #21:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Plenty would care. Using the TCs example of Asians. Plenty would get upset someone just assumes someone from Japan or China is good at math or fighting just because they come from 2 of the most stereotypical Asian countries people think of. Even taking race out of the equation, it's bad to just assume stereotypes about a person based on the region or country they come from. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974706678] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Plenty would care.Using the TCs example of Asians. Plenty would get upset someone just assumes someone from Japan or China is good at math or fighting just because they come from 2 of the most stereotypical Asian countries people think of.Even taking race out of the equation, it's bad to just assume stereotypes about a person based on the region or country they come from.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NatsuSama 07/08/23 1:15:23 PM #23:	Even taking race out of the equation, it's bad to just assume stereotypes about a person based on the region or country they come from. Taking out race doesn't make it any less ignorant. Assumptions about a person at all based on their class, wealth, race, gender, whatever is not a good thing. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974706704] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Even taking race out of the equation, it's bad to just assume stereotypes about a person based on the region or country they come from.Taking out race doesn't make it any less ignorant.Assumptions about a person at all based on their class, wealth, race, gender, whatever is not a good thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 07/08/23 1:16:28 PM #24:	Yeah man. If you assume a whole group of people are proud of themselves youre likely to offend. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:974706723] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Yeah man. If you assume a whole group of people are proud of themselves youre likely to offend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 07/08/23 1:17:16 PM #26:	Well, at least this topic let me tag an anti-semite that only got warned. But yes, positive stereotypes are racist, especially as they often go hand-in-hand with expectations that they think other people should adhere to interest- or actions-wise. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:974706740] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Well, at least this topic let me tag an anti-semite that only got warned.But yes, positive stereotypes are racist, especially as they often go hand-in-hand with expectations that they think other people should adhere to interest- or actions-wise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 07/08/23 1:19:06 PM #27:	@randy_123r not more often. Just perpetuated ignorance keeping the stereotype alive. Assuming someone is good at something because they come from a country, or they're rich, or come from a certain race, or whatever is not a good thing to assume. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974706783] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>@randy_123r not more often. Just perpetuated ignorance keeping the stereotype alive.Assuming someone is good at something because they come from a country, or they're rich, or come from a certain race, or whatever is not a good thing to assume.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 07/08/23 1:19:18 PM #28:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] What if I said Canadians are nice and love maple syrup? --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:974706787] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> What if I said Canadians are nice and love maple syrup?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 07/08/23 1:21:49 PM #29:	K181 posted... yes, positive stereotypes are racist, especially as they often go hand-in-hand with expectations that they think other people should adhere to interest- or actions-wise. --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:974706831] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite><quote>yes, positive stereotypes are racist, especially as they often go hand-in-hand with expectations that they think other people should adhere to interest- or actions-wise.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R_Jackal 07/08/23 1:24:27 PM #31:	Technically. It's not going to stop anyone from doing it though, just because it's both easy and perceived as inoffensive. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:974706877] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Technically. It's not going to stop anyone from doing it though, just because it's both easy and perceived as inoffensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 07/08/23 1:26:12 PM #32:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You gave examples that can't actually be verified, so that means absolutely nothing. Claiming everyone in Canada wouldn't be offended is not an actual example of anything. Nor is your parents and what you claim their feelings would be on ignorant stereotypes that assumes they must be good at something. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974706909] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You gave examples that can't actually be verified, so that means absolutely nothing.Claiming everyone in Canada wouldn't be offended is not an actual example of anything. Nor is your parents and what you claim their feelings would be on ignorant stereotypes that assumes they must be good at something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 07/08/23 1:26:29 PM #33:	To take an example from the OP: If it were assumed that all members of a race were 'good at fighting', how might that affect their interactions with law enforcement? --- (We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang <cite>ai123 posted [p:974706915] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>To take an example from the OP:If it were assumed that all members of a race were 'good at fighting', how might that affect their interactions with law enforcement?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NatsuSama 07/08/23 1:28:55 PM #35:	You aren't saying anything that's actually evidence. Repeating yourself isn't helping your point. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974706960] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>You aren't saying anything that's actually evidence.Repeating yourself isn't helping your point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 07/08/23 1:42:30 PM #39:	IdiotMachine posted... Like saying people of a certain ethnic group are all good at math or know how to fight; is that bad? Yes. It puts undue pressure on people in those groups to excel in those areas and also can shoehorn people into having particular kinds of roles. Youll also get some idiots who claim its genetic. Take your maths example. On average, people in a Asia are stronger in maths than people in Europe. However, theres no reason to think its genetic. Its about different approaches to teaching and the complexity or simplicity of the language surrounding maths. <cite>Glob posted [p:974707219] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>IdiotMachine posted... </cite><quote>Like saying people of a certain ethnic group are all good at math or know how to fight; is that bad?</quote>Yes.It puts undue pressure on people in those groups to excel in those areas and also can shoehorn people into having particular kinds of roles.Youll also get some idiots who claim its genetic. Take your maths example. On average, people in a Asia are stronger in maths than people in Europe.However, theres no reason to think its genetic. Its about different approaches to teaching and the complexity or simplicity of the language surrounding maths.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 07/08/23 1:44:29 PM #40:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You realize there's still people who don't find literal racism offensive. People who don't find it offensive to use literally derogatory slurs at other races and ethnicities. People who will sit here and argue the same level of logic that calling Asians or Black people, or people from a certain country a slur is only racist "depending on xyz" therefore they aren't racist. Even rationale sometimes to justify it. You going, "Oh but my parents don't mind" doesn't make it evidence it's not any less racist, or ignorant or just not good to assume a trait about a group of people. --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:974707261] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You realize there's still people who don't find literal racism offensive. People who don't find it offensive to use literally derogatory slurs at other races and ethnicities. People who will sit here and argue the same level of logic that calling Asians or Black people, or people from a certain country a slur is only racist "depending on xyz" therefore they aren't racist. Even rationale sometimes to justify it.You going, "Oh but my parents don't mind" doesn't make it evidence it's not any less racist, or ignorant or just not good to assume a trait about a group of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamespoht 07/08/23 1:54:56 PM #45:	I'm not very good at basketball Somehow people expect me to be for whatever reason --- ''No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me''-Sonic The Hedgehog I am Gamespot's Unofficial Mascot....Love Me. <cite>Gamespoht posted [p:974707433] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>I'm not very good at basketballSomehow people expect me to be for whatever reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/08/23 1:58:31 PM #47:	Well randy, your response is "is it really so bad in some circumstances"? Do you have evidence of testimony of that stance? --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:974707497] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Well randy, your response is "is it really so bad in some circumstances"?Do you have evidence of testimony of that stance?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 07/08/23 2:06:48 PM #49:	Raikuro posted... Pigeonholing people into specific interests because of their genetic makeup isn't good, no. I was going to say something like this, but you put it better. There's also a difference between crediting a cultural generality over crediting race. Like... Asian-American households often stress studying and education is better than saying: "Asians are better at math". Also the context is key. Why are you bringing up these distinctions? There is a history behind some of these stereotypes, whether positive or not. --- The right wing believe a fact is what their hierarchical belief structure dictates should be true - Not what is reflected in objective reality. <cite>Torgo posted [p:974707636] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Raikuro posted... </cite><quote>Pigeonholing people into specific interests because of their genetic makeup isn't good, no.</quote> I was going to say something like this, but you put it better.There's also a difference between crediting a cultural generality over crediting race. Like... Asian-American households often stress studying and education is better than saying: "Asians are better at math". Also the context is key. Why are you bringing up these distinctions? There is a history behind some of these stereotypes, whether positive or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 07/08/23 2:06:50 PM #50:	Can definitely say yes to this one. Even if the stereotype is outwardly/seemingly "positive", you'll likely run into tons of ordinary people that just completely run away with assumptions based on those stereotypes. Which can actually spiral into not-good situations, or at least extremely uncomfortable/awkward, pretty easily. --- To/fro from-towards <cite>masticatingman posted [p:974707638] in Are positi... [t:80502877]...</cite> <quote>Can definitely say yes to this one.Even if the stereotype is outwardly/seemingly "positive", you'll likely run into tons of ordinary people that just completely run away with assumptions based on those stereotypes. Which can actually spiral into not-good situations, or at least extremely uncomfortable/awkward, pretty easily. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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