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refmon 07/13/23 4:19:55 PM #1:	https://variety.com/2023/film/news/marvel-flops-too-many-disney-tv-shows-bob-iger-1235669262/ --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:974817935] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>https://variety.com/2023/film/news/marvel-flops-too-many-disney-tv-shows-bob-iger-1235669262/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaos_knight 07/13/23 4:21:58 PM #2:	No shit. Disney has done this routine for decades. They find anything profitable and release tons of garbage until the well runs dry before finding something else. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions <cite>chaos_knight posted [p:974817972] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>No shit. Disney has done this routine for decades. They find anything profitable and release tons of garbage until the well runs dry before finding something else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 07/13/23 4:22:44 PM #3:	I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:974817988] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/13/23 4:24:54 PM #4:	PiOverlord posted... I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU. That + a combination of not really caring about phase 4+ shit I haven't seen a MCU movie since Black Widow which was kinda terrible to boot. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:974818034] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU.</quote>That + a combination of not really caring about phase 4+ shit I haven't seen a MCU movie since Black Widow which was kinda terrible to boot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/13/23 4:25:57 PM #5:	PiOverlord posted... I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU. Yeah...a combination of Endgame finishing the first major plot line, and the new strategy of "release 400 TV shows and make all of them canon" cured me of my adherence to the MCU. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:974818053] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU.</quote>Yeah...a combination of Endgame finishing the first major plot line, and the new strategy of "release 400 TV shows and make all of them canon" cured me of my adherence to the MCU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/13/23 4:26:42 PM #6:	PiOverlord posted... I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU. Multiverse of Madness was the final nail in the coffin in this regard for me personally, but WandaVision's 'Ralph Bohner' was definitely the moment it got put it on life support. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read https://imgur.com/1WshTZu - by DB_Insider https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:974818075] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU.</quote>Multiverse of Madness was the final nail in the coffin in this regard for me personally, but WandaVision's 'Ralph Bohner' was definitely the moment it got put it on life support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 07/13/23 4:26:44 PM #7:	No shit. Hell, the last one I watched was Thor: Ragnarok. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:974818077] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>No shit. Hell, the last one I watched was Thor: Ragnarok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 07/13/23 4:28:59 PM #8:	Absolutely. Asking audiences to see a couple of 2 hour flicks a year and have it paid off with a fun team up flick down the line is significantly easier than asking them to keep up with several shows 6+ episodes each where character arcs that would be a C plot in one of those 2 hour flicks are now the centre. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:974818114] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. Asking audiences to see a couple of 2 hour flicks a year and have it paid off with a fun team up flick down the line is significantly easier than asking them to keep up with several shows 6+ episodes each where character arcs that would be a C plot in one of those 2 hour flicks are now the centre.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 07/13/23 4:30:07 PM #9:	On the plus side it killed any hope the DCU had. --- "Let the bears pay the bear tax I pay the Homer tax." - Bart Simpson <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:974818139] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>On the plus side it killed any hope the DCU had.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 07/13/23 4:30:43 PM #10:	They definitely needed a break after the Thanos stuff wrapped up. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:974818153] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>They definitely needed a break after the Thanos stuff wrapped up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/13/23 4:30:48 PM #11:	PraetorXyn posted... No shit. Hell, the last one I watched was Thor: Ragnarok. Which was 4 years before the Disney+ shows were a thing. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:974818156] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>No shit. Hell, the last one I watched was Thor: Ragnarok.</quote>Which was 4 years before the Disney+ shows were a thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 07/13/23 4:32:32 PM #12:	TheSavageDragon posted... Which was 4 years before the Disney+ shows were a thing. Yeah. My point was that I was tired of it before the shows were even a thing, so the shows would have felt like being waterboarded. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:974818180] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>TheSavageDragon posted... </cite><quote>Which was 4 years before the Disney+ shows were a thing.</quote>Yeah. My point was that I was tired of it before the shows were even a thing, so the shows would have felt like being waterboarded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 07/13/23 4:40:16 PM #14:	To me, No Way Home was the peak. It was pretty much exactly what I wanted, both from the other Spideys and Strange being in it. MoM had me so hyped, but it was relatively lackluster, though it did give me that other thing I wanted, which is why Deadpool 3 is like the only thing I'm really looking forward. The shows were meh, though I think both WandaVision and Loki came out better than even many of the movies. Secret Invasion is also pretty good simply because of Fury and Rhodey. Nowadays, I'm just whatever about the MCU. Even if it turns out good like GotG 3, I'm not as excited as I was just last year. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:974818316] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>To me, No Way Home was the peak. It was pretty much exactly what I wanted, both from the other Spideys and Strange being in it. MoM had me so hyped, but it was relatively lackluster, though it did give me that other thing I wanted, which is why Deadpool 3 is like the only thing I'm really looking forward.The shows were meh, though I think both WandaVision and Loki came out better than even many of the movies. Secret Invasion is also pretty good simply because of Fury and Rhodey.Nowadays, I'm just whatever about the MCU. Even if it turns out good like GotG 3, I'm not as excited as I was just last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 07/13/23 4:44:42 PM #15:	And here I am thinking there's not enough content... --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:974818383] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>And here I am thinking there's not enough content...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/13/23 4:47:15 PM #16:	I have a billion dollar idea that will get people interested in the MCU again ~~Make an X-Men movie you morons~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:974818431] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I have a billion dollar idea that will get people interested in the MCU again Make an X-Men movie you morons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/14/23 12:38:18 AM #17:	Smashingpmkns posted... I have a billion dollar idea that will get people interested in the MCU again ~~Make an X-Men movie you morons~~ I doubt that will do anything. The end of their last run was pretty unspectacular. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:974826599] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>I have a billion dollar idea that will get people interested in the MCU again Make an X-Men movie you morons </quote>I doubt that will do anything. The end of their last run was pretty unspectacular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLiarParadox 07/14/23 12:54:00 AM #18:	You don't really have to watch everything to keep up. Just watch some recap videos or read a review if you're not into a particular show. --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. <cite>TheLiarParadox posted [p:974826773] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>You don't really have to watch everything to keep up. Just watch some recap videos or read a review if you're not into a particular show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/14/23 12:55:30 AM #19:	Smashingpmkns posted... I have a billion dollar idea that will get people interested in the MCU again ~~Make an X-Men movie you morons~~ They have to wait out the clock until they're legally able to. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:974826800] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite><quote>I have a billion dollar idea that will get people interested in the MCU again Make an X-Men movie you morons </quote>They have to wait out the clock until they're legally able to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/14/23 12:58:30 AM #20:	Iger is a piece of shit but he's absolutely right about pulling back Marvel and SW, I stopped giving a shit after Endgame, I only care about Mando now. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974826830] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Iger is a piece of shit but he's absolutely right about pulling back Marvel and SW, I stopped giving a shit after Endgame, I only care about Mando now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/14/23 1:04:31 AM #21:	FortuneCookie posted... They have to wait out the clock until they're legally able to. ~~Mutants are already in the MCU.~~ --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:974826900] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>They have to wait out the clock until they're legally able to.</quote>Mutants are already in the MCU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/14/23 9:31:47 AM #22:	There are loopholes. Look at Sony. They're able to make Morbius and Kraven because those are Spider-Man characters. They could not, however, go out and make an Iron Man movie just because they feel like it. Disney isn't holding off on an X-Men movie just because they dislike "Men" being in the title. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:974831138] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>There are loopholes. Look at Sony. They're able to make Morbius and Kraven because those are Spider-Man characters. They could not, however, go out and make an Iron Man movie just because they feel like it. Disney isn't holding off on an X-Men movie just because they dislike "Men" being in the title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poorly 07/14/23 9:35:47 AM #23:	HornyLevel posted... ~~Mutants are already in the MCU.~~ Inhumane --- <cite>Poorly posted [p:974831213] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>Mutants are already in the MCU.</quote>Inhumane </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 07/14/23 9:41:26 AM #24:	Yeah, not really sure what they were thinking with that. Not like it has killed the MCU or anything, but they're definitely shifting how people view it for sure. It was kind of inevitable with End Game that some people would fall off, but instantly throwing out like 8(?) shows in a few years is a bit much even for diehard fans who were still on board with watching everything. Only one I watched was Loki. <cite>Nemu posted [p:974831305] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, not really sure what they were thinking with that. Not like it has killed the MCU or anything, but they're definitely shifting how people view it for sure. It was kind of inevitable with End Game that some people would fall off, but instantly throwing out like 8(?) shows in a few years is a bit much even for diehard fans who were still on board with watching everything. Only one I watched was Loki.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doshindude 07/14/23 9:53:46 AM #25:	PiOverlord posted... I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU. Same. Anything after Endgame just doesn't matter IMO. --- Oh I have opinions alright. <cite>doshindude posted [p:974831498] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>I will say MCU shows finally removed my FOMO for the MCU.</quote>Same. Anything after Endgame just doesn't matter IMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/14/23 10:06:53 AM #26:	I haven't seen anything MCU-related since Endgame. I just don't give a shit at all about phase 4. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:974831745] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I haven't seen anything MCU-related since Endgame. I just don't give a shit at all about phase 4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bringit 07/14/23 10:17:53 AM #27:	I completely disagree. It's a quality issue. If all these shows were at least good, let alone great - there wouldn't be a problem. Fact is the majority are mediocre and even the better Marvel shows so far have been just about decent. Star Wars at least has Andor which is straight fantastic television. People aren't gonna complain about having too much great stuff to watch, but they will when the stuff they're watching is a slog because it's bland. IMO a consequence of the streaming world is people are training themselves on TV shows via binging in a pretty hardcore way and are gradually learning to tell the difference between good and bad ones - their bars are getting raised higher and they have less patience for crap. It was probably a lot more easily disguised before binge culture and instant access. --- "I still have a tattoo to get, that says I'm living in the moment." <cite>Bringit posted [p:974831924] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I completely disagree.It's a quality issue. If all these shows were at least good, let alone great - there wouldn't be a problem. Fact is the majority are mediocre and even the better Marvel shows so far have been just about decent. Star Wars at least has Andor which is straight fantastic television.People aren't gonna complain about having too much great stuff to watch, but they will when the stuff they're watching is a slog because it's bland.IMO a consequence of the streaming world is people are training themselves on TV shows via binging in a pretty hardcore way and are gradually learning to tell the difference between good and bad ones - their bars are getting raised higher and they have less patience for crap. It was probably a lot more easily disguised before binge culture and instant access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/14/23 10:26:53 AM #28:	FortuneCookie posted... There are loopholes. Look at Sony. They're able to make Morbius and Kraven because those are Spider-Man characters. They could not, however, go out and make an Iron Man movie just because they feel like it. Disney isn't holding off on an X-Men movie just because they dislike "Men" being in the title. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Sony owns the movie rights to Morbius and Kraven. They don't own the movie rights to Iron Man. They made a pretty public deal to use in him Homecoming. Disney bought back X-Men and F4 several years ago. They announced a Mutants movie back in 2019 for release in 2021/2022. Having actual ~~mutants start showing up, along with the full use of the X-Men jingle, Professor X showing up, and Wolverine being~~ in Deadpool 3, which is the next movie after The Marvels, not to mention Deadpool being part of the same rights package, is not some deal they're making with some other party. They own it all themselves. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:974832106] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>There are loopholes. Look at Sony. They're able to make Morbius and Kraven because those are Spider-Man characters. They could not, however, go out and make an Iron Man movie just because they feel like it. Disney isn't holding off on an X-Men movie just because they dislike "Men" being in the title.</quote>I don't think you know what you're talking about. Sony owns the movie rights to Morbius and Kraven. They don't own the movie rights to Iron Man. They made a pretty public deal to use in him Homecoming.Disney bought back X-Men and F4 several years ago. They announced a Mutants movie back in 2019 for release in 2021/2022. Having actual mutants start showing up, along with the full use of the X-Men jingle, Professor X showing up, and Wolverine being in Deadpool 3, which is the next movie after The Marvels, not to mention Deadpool being part of the same rights package, is not some deal they're making with some other party. They own it all themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 07/14/23 10:30:51 AM #29:	I will say that Secret Invasion is the first MCU show where I'm not rushing to see the episode as soon as it comes out, but I'm not burnt out yet. I actually really love Marvel content and am also looking for more. --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:974832187] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I will say that Secret Invasion is the first MCU show where I'm not rushing to see the episode as soon as it comes out, but I'm not burnt out yet. I actually really love Marvel content and am also looking for more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/14/23 10:31:24 AM #30:	Bringit posted... I completely disagree. It's a quality issue. >Quality >Quantity Pick one. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974832207] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Bringit posted... </cite><quote>I completely disagree.It's a quality issue.</quote>>Quality>Quantity Pick one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 07/14/23 10:39:12 AM #31:	Bringit posted... I completely disagree. It's a quality issue. If all these shows were at least good, let alone great - there wouldn't be a problem. Fact is the majority are mediocre and even the better Marvel shows so far have been just about decent. Star Wars at least has Andor which is straight fantastic television. People aren't gonna complain about having too much great stuff to watch, but they will when the stuff they're watching is a slog because it's bland. IMO a consequence of the streaming world is people are training themselves on TV shows via binging in a pretty hardcore way and are gradually learning to tell the difference between good and bad ones - their bars are getting raised higher and they have less patience for crap. It was probably a lot more easily disguised before binge culture and instant access. Youre not wrong that theyre not quality, but even if they were, there comes a point when youre just burnt out. Most AAA open world games are pretty good at least, but Im just so fucking sick of open worlds I cant be arsed to attempt them right now. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:974832341] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Bringit posted... </cite><quote>I completely disagree.It's a quality issue. If all these shows were at least good, let alone great - there wouldn't be a problem. Fact is the majority are mediocre and even the better Marvel shows so far have been just about decent. Star Wars at least has Andor which is straight fantastic television.People aren't gonna complain about having too much great stuff to watch, but they will when the stuff they're watching is a slog because it's bland.IMO a consequence of the streaming world is people are training themselves on TV shows via binging in a pretty hardcore way and are gradually learning to tell the difference between good and bad ones - their bars are getting raised higher and they have less patience for crap. It was probably a lot more easily disguised before binge culture and instant access.</quote>Youre not wrong that theyre not quality, but even if they were, there comes a point when youre just burnt out.Most AAA open world games are pretty good at least, but Im just so fucking sick of open worlds I cant be arsed to attempt them right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/14/23 11:39:43 AM #32:	HornyLevel posted... I don't think you know what you're talking about. Sony owns the movie rights to Morbius and Kraven. They don't own the movie rights to Iron Man. They made a pretty public deal to use in him Homecoming. Disney bought back X-Men and F4 several years ago. They announced a Mutants movie back in 2019 for release in 2021/2022. Having actual ~~mutants start showing up, along with the full use of the X-Men jingle, Professor X showing up, and Wolverine being~~ in Deadpool 3, which is the next movie after The Marvels, not to mention Deadpool being part of the same rights package, is not some deal they're making with some other party. They own it all themselves. The MCU does not have full use of the X-Men until 2025. If you have the rights to use a song which references Superman, that doesn't mean that you own Superman. They're not going to make an X-Men movie that consists of Professor X, Wolverine, and some c-listers. They're going to wait until the X-Men movie license contracts expire in 2025. You're just going to have to wait. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:974833441] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>I don't think you know what you're talking about. Sony owns the movie rights to Morbius and Kraven. They don't own the movie rights to Iron Man. They made a pretty public deal to use in him Homecoming.Disney bought back X-Men and F4 several years ago. They announced a Mutants movie back in 2019 for release in 2021/2022. Having actual mutants start showing up, along with the full use of the X-Men jingle, Professor X showing up, and Wolverine being in Deadpool 3, which is the next movie after The Marvels, not to mention Deadpool being part of the same rights package, is not some deal they're making with some other party. They own it all themselves.</quote>The MCU does not have full use of the X-Men until 2025.If you have the rights to use a song which references Superman, that doesn't mean that you own Superman. They're not going to make an X-Men movie that consists of Professor X, Wolverine, and some c-listers. They're going to wait until the X-Men movie license contracts expire in 2025.You're just going to have to wait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 07/14/23 11:47:30 AM #33:	For the kids anyway, who cares, still sell to babies. --- Is this reverse psychology? And if I ask, will you lie to me? <cite>Cocytus posted [p:974833575] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>For the kids anyway, who cares, still sell to babies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 07/14/23 11:51:31 AM #34:	He's right, but also the quality of the product was just overall worse. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:974833653] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>He's right, but also the quality of the product was just overall worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cassie 07/14/23 11:52:24 AM #35:	I hate how theyll take an inspirational or feel good moment and ruin it by injecting a stupid ass attempt at humor. It completely undercuts the scene. Taika Waititi was horrible about it. --- Inflict strain upon the structure Collapsing below my pressure..break of the Edgecrusher. <cite>Cassie posted [p:974833665] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I hate how theyll take an inspirational or feel good moment and ruin it by injecting a stupid ass attempt at humor. It completely undercuts the scene. Taika Waititi was horrible about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/14/23 11:53:38 AM #36:	FortuneCookie posted... The MCU does not have full use of the X-Men until 2025. If you have the rights to use a song which references Superman, that doesn't mean that you own Superman. They're not going to make an X-Men movie that consists of Professor X, Wolverine, and some c-listers. They're going to wait until the X-Men movie license contracts expire in 2025. You're just going to have to wait. I'm not seeing anything about this. When you type this in, the first link is literally insidethemagic, which is known fake shit. Every other link is some random website claiming it's a rumour with no proof. They simply don't have room for X-Men right now. Phase 4 and 5 were planned before they even bought Fox and Feige originally even said you're not gonna see them till after Phase 5, but then they also ended up announcing Mutants shortly after. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:974833691] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>The MCU does not have full use of the X-Men until 2025.If you have the rights to use a song which references Superman, that doesn't mean that you own Superman. They're not going to make an X-Men movie that consists of Professor X, Wolverine, and some c-listers. They're going to wait until the X-Men movie license contracts expire in 2025.You're just going to have to wait.</quote>I'm not seeing anything about this. When you type this in, the first link is literally insidethemagic, which is known fake shit. Every other link is some random website claiming it's a rumour with no proof.They simply don't have room for X-Men right now. Phase 4 and 5 were planned before they even bought Fox and Feige originally even said you're not gonna see them till after Phase 5, but then they also ended up announcing Mutants shortly after.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 07/14/23 11:55:54 AM #37:	I genuinely lost all interest in superhero movies after End Game. It all seemed so pointless after that. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:974833726] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I genuinely lost all interest in superhero movies after End Game. It all seemed so pointless after that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke 07/14/23 12:03:03 PM #38:	The shows suck and phase 4 has been underwhelming at best. --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) <cite>TaylorHeinicke posted [p:974833849] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>The shows suck and phase 4 has been underwhelming at best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 07/14/23 12:14:10 PM #39:	HornyLevel posted... I'm not seeing anything about this. When you type this in, the first link is literally insidethemagic, which is known fake shit. Every other link is some random website claiming it's a rumour with no proof. They simply don't have room for X-Men right now. Phase 4 and 5 were planned before they even bought Fox and Feige originally even said you're not gonna see them till after Phase 5, but then they also ended up announcing Mutants shortly after. If you Google X-Men 2005, you'll find several other articles saying the same thing. If you don't believe any of them, that's fine. But I can't think of a good reason why a company like Disney would willingly sit on a billion dollar franchise. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:974834083] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>I'm not seeing anything about this. When you type this in, the first link is literally insidethemagic, which is known fake shit. Every other link is some random website claiming it's a rumour with no proof.They simply don't have room for X-Men right now. Phase 4 and 5 were planned before they even bought Fox and Feige originally even said you're not gonna see them till after Phase 5, but then they also ended up announcing Mutants shortly after.</quote>If you Google X-Men 2005, you'll find several other articles saying the same thing. If you don't believe any of them, that's fine. But I can't think of a good reason why a company like Disney would willingly sit on a billion dollar franchise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 07/14/23 12:42:48 PM #40:	Saying that the focus and attention of audiences towards marvel was diluted because of so many fucking shows sounds really similar to something else used frequently by people online yet certain fellows often deny. ~~Fatigue.~~ --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:974834618] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Saying that the focus and attention of audiences towards marvel was diluted because of so many fucking shows sounds really similar to something else used frequently by people online yet certain fellows often deny.Fatigue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/14/23 12:46:03 PM #41:	FortuneCookie posted... If you Google X-Men 2005, you'll find several other articles saying the same thing. If you don't believe any of them, that's fine. But I can't think of a good reason why a company like Disney would willingly sit on a billion dollar franchise. Yeah, it's all tabloid or clickbait sites claiming it's a rumour. Nothing from any of the major superhero news sites. And even if it is true, the rumour itself is saying that it's a contracts issue with the Fox era actors. Nothing to do with rights or anything. If they don't want to reuse the same actors, they have to wait for the contracts to expire. Are you seriously wondering why Disney isn't using them immediately? The Fox X-Men ended horribly and people still remember. They need a break. Not to mention, Kevin Feige literally said that they have a 5 year plan already back in 2019. We're in year 2 of that 5 year plan right now. There's just no room and they weren't gonna scrap things to make room for a plan they constructed before Dark Phoenix was even released. Even now, they've announced mostly everything up to the end of Phase 6. There's just no room for them. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:974834679] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>If you Google X-Men 2005, you'll find several other articles saying the same thing. If you don't believe any of them, that's fine. But I can't think of a good reason why a company like Disney would willingly sit on a billion dollar franchise.</quote>Yeah, it's all tabloid or clickbait sites claiming it's a rumour. Nothing from any of the major superhero news sites.And even if it is true, the rumour itself is saying that it's a contracts issue with the Fox era actors. Nothing to do with rights or anything. If they don't want to reuse the same actors, they have to wait for the contracts to expire.Are you seriously wondering why Disney isn't using them immediately? The Fox X-Men ended horribly and people still remember. They need a break. Not to mention, Kevin Feige literally said that they have a 5 year plan already back in 2019. We're in year 2 of that 5 year plan right now.There's just no room and they weren't gonna scrap things to make room for a plan they constructed before Dark Phoenix was even released.Even now, they've announced mostly everything up to the end of Phase 6. There's just no room for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cassie 07/14/23 1:13:11 PM #42:	HornyLevel posted... Yeah, it's all tabloid or clickbait sites claiming it's a rumour. Nothing from any of the major superhero news sites. And even if it is true, the rumour itself is saying that it's a contracts issue with the Fox era actors. Nothing to do with rights or anything. If they don't want to reuse the same actors, they have to wait for the contracts to expire. Are you seriously wondering why Disney isn't using them immediately? The Fox X-Men ended horribly and people still remember. They need a break. Not to mention, Kevin Feige literally said that they have a 5 year plan already back in 2019. We're in year 2 of that 5 year plan right now. There's just no room and they weren't gonna scrap things to make room for a plan they constructed before Dark Phoenix was even released. Even now, they've announced mostly everything up to the end of Phase 6. There's just no room for them. uhhh2019-2023 is four years dude. --- Inflict strain upon the structure Collapsing below my pressure..break of the Edgecrusher. <cite>Cassie posted [p:974835175] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>HornyLevel posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, it's all tabloid or clickbait sites claiming it's a rumour. Nothing from any of the major superhero news sites.And even if it is true, the rumour itself is saying that it's a contracts issue with the Fox era actors. Nothing to do with rights or anything. If they don't want to reuse the same actors, they have to wait for the contracts to expire.Are you seriously wondering why Disney isn't using them immediately? The Fox X-Men ended horribly and people still remember. They need a break. Not to mention, Kevin Feige literally said that they have a 5 year plan already back in 2019. We're in year 2 of that 5 year plan right now.There's just no room and they weren't gonna scrap things to make room for a plan they constructed before Dark Phoenix was even released.Even now, they've announced mostly everything up to the end of Phase 6. There's just no room for them.</quote>uhhh2019-2023 is four years dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/14/23 4:35:20 PM #43:	Cassie posted... uhhh2019-2023 is four years dude. They're referring to the Multiverse Saga plans which contains Phase 4, 5 and 6. It started in 2021. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:974839259] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Cassie posted... </cite><quote>uhhh2019-2023 is four years dude.</quote>They're referring to the Multiverse Saga plans which contains Phase 4, 5 and 6. It started in 2021.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cassie 07/14/23 9:03:55 PM #44:	TheSavageDragon posted... They're referring to the Multiverse Saga plans which contains Phase 4, 5 and 6. It started in 2021. ohh okay. --- Inflict strain upon the structure Collapsing below my pressure..break of the Edgecrusher. <cite>Cassie posted [p:974844560] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>TheSavageDragon posted... </cite><quote>They're referring to the Multiverse Saga plans which contains Phase 4, 5 and 6. It started in 2021.</quote>ohh okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 07/14/23 9:07:56 PM #45:	Hopefully this spells the beginning of the end for capeshit --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:974844637] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully this spells the beginning of the end for capeshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 07/14/23 9:11:58 PM #46:	My biggest issue is that it felt non-stop. Prior to Endgame, you waited basically 6 months or more between most movies, whereas with the shows it felt like it was just back to back to back to back. Especially if you were into Marvel and Star Wars. I understand the executive push for it to be that way, but with the sheer amount of content flooding out in Phase 4, it was inevitable you would miss something and once you did, it felt like the spell was broken. There was no longer hype buildup prior to something, it was just there and if it sucked or was middling quality, then it got slammed. The sad part is that Phase 4 didn't get off to such a fast start. There was a breather moment between Endgame and Far From Home. Then Covid hit and they were like "Open the floodgates" --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:974844724] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>My biggest issue is that it felt non-stop. Prior to Endgame, you waited basically 6 months or more between most movies, whereas with the shows it felt like it was just back to back to back to back. Especially if you were into Marvel and Star Wars. I understand the executive push for it to be that way, but with the sheer amount of content flooding out in Phase 4, it was inevitable you would miss something and once you did, it felt like the spell was broken. There was no longer hype buildup prior to something, it was just there and if it sucked or was middling quality, then it got slammed. The sad part is that Phase 4 didn't get off to such a fast start. There was a breather moment between Endgame and Far From Home. Then Covid hit and they were like "Open the floodgates" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 07/14/23 9:14:58 PM #47:	I think maybe it was time for Marvel to pivot away from such an interconnected universe and tell some independent stories. Not everything has to serve some greater lore. A good story can stand on its own independent of all that. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:974844787] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I think maybe it was time for Marvel to pivot away from such an interconnected universe and tell some independent stories. Not everything has to serve some greater lore. A good story can stand on its own independent of all that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 07/14/23 9:24:43 PM #48:	I definitely would not be upset if, moving forward, they made half the shows with twice the effort put in. All of the shows have been decent but Wandavision, Loki, and She Hulk were the only ones that were really unique and interesting. All the rest were basically just to introduce some character and their whole arc could be the first act of a movie. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:974844976] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I definitely would not be upset if, moving forward, they made half the shows with twice the effort put in. All of the shows have been decent but Wandavision, Loki, and She Hulk were the only ones that were really unique and interesting. All the rest were basically just to introduce some character and their whole arc could be the first act of a movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doshindude 07/15/23 8:45:36 AM #49:	Nothing will ever match that hype cycle that was the leadup to the first Avengers movie. I remember when the first Captain America came out, people were losing their minds. --- Oh I have opinions alright. <cite>doshindude posted [p:974851577] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>Nothing will ever match that hype cycle that was the leadup to the first Avengers movie. I remember when the first Captain America came out, people were losing their minds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 07/15/23 12:11:08 PM #50:	I am proud to say I have not seen any Marvel movie since the crap that was Infinity War. People really are simpletons who like this garbage. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:974854358] in Marvel 'Di... [t:80507770]...</cite> <quote>I am proud to say I have not seen any Marvel movie since the crap that was Infinity War. People really are simpletons who like this garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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