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brestugo 07/31/23 8:54:54 AM #1:	https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/melinda-henneberger/article277734988.html *Will Muller, a rising sixth grader at St. John LaLande Catholic School in Blue Springs, has been kicked out* disenrolled after much prayer, according to a July 19 letter from the principal, Susan Martin. *This is not because Will, who is 11, was struggling academically or did anything wrong.* On the contrary, hes an A student, said the mother of a classmate, and liked by everybody. My son would say hes the only one who never talks or gets in any trouble. According to the letter, hes being expelled because his parents, Paul and Hollee Muller, have stated both verbally and in writing you do not agree with nor do you support the teachings of the Catholic Church. After prayerful consideration and discussion among our school administration it is obvious we no longer have a partnership with you, since the values of your family are not in alignment with those of our school. Therefore, the school administration has made the decision to disenroll your child from our school. As it happens, the Mullers are mainstays of the parish and the school, where they are volunteer basketball and track coaches, run a Tuesday night open gym for the kids, and volunteer to do a lot of things other parents wont, said that same St. John mother, who like all four other parents I spoke to, did not want her name used out of fear that she, too, might be shown the door and left scrambling to find a new school three weeks before classes begin. Their whole life was that church. Its just wrong, and its going to hurt a lot of the kids. Hollees given so much of her time, Im shocked they would do this, said a second St. John mom. Paul Muller attended St. John himself, as did his 15 siblings. So this decision is devastating for their family, and for the wider community, too. Exactly what Catholic values do the Mullers not share? Hollee was vice president of the schools advisory board, and she objected to changes at the school since Father Sean McCaffery became pastor of the parish a year ago. *The priest came rolling in hot, Hollee said, yanking books from the school library, including one about a polar bear with two mommies and all of Rick Riordans work, some of which features characters who are gay, bisexual, lesbian and trans. As Hollee herself sums up her supposed heresy, I dont think being blatantly homophobic is a teaching of the Catholic Church. The Duolingo language app was taken away, according to parents, because it translates the words gay and lesbian.* CNN 10, a news source for explanation seekers on the go or in the classroom, was pulled, Hollee said, because *the priest said we dont need the media teaching our kids.* *A third mom I spoke to said she was told that CNN 10 was out because its parent company is too liberal.* She and others said Father McCaffery does not respond to concerns, or even look at us who ask questions. I dont consider myself liberal, but banning books, and Duolingo? Dont punish the child for the parent. And honestly, Hollee did nothing wrong. Hollee was also among those who spoke up after *a teacher told her older sons seventh grade homeroom that girls who wear leggings might leave the impression that they are whores.* School officials called the uproar that followed that classroom discussion a big misunderstanding, the not-liberal mom said, but *a lot of parents were upset by what their kids told them about the teachers suggestion that it was up to girls to help boys get to heaven by protecting them from lustful thoughts.* In one of a bunch of emails to and from school administration that Hollee shared with me, after the whore incident, she suggested to the school principal that perhaps we need to start working on educating our boys how to respect others and appropriate treatment of women instead of focusing on teaching girls how to stay safe around others. Her older son, Andrew, a rising eighth grader, had already decided not to stay at the school, where he had grown uncomfortable over the last year. But his younger brother Will still very much wanted to be there. *As a private school, of course, St. John can expel anyone, any time, for any reason or none. Parents at the school sign a covenant that they will support church teachings,* and Hollee freely admits that while shes a weekly Mass attending Catholic, she does not agree with everything her faith teaches. *But punishing a child for the dissension of his parents does seem heartless:* Hes in tears, Hollee said. Its only this decision by the school, she says, that has shaken her faith, not in God, but in whether I do belong in the church. [story continues] --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975169198] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote> https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/melinda-henneberger/article277734988.html<quote>Will Muller, a rising sixth grader at St. John LaLande Catholic School in Blue Springs, has been kicked out disenrolled after much prayer, according to a July 19 letter from the principal, Susan Martin. This is not because Will, who is 11, was struggling academically or did anything wrong. On the contrary, hes an A student, said the mother of a classmate, and liked by everybody. My son would say hes the only one who never talks or gets in any trouble. According to the letter, hes being expelled because his parents, Paul and Hollee Muller, have stated both verbally and in writing you do not agree with nor do you support the teachings of the Catholic Church. After prayerful consideration and discussion among our school administration it is obvious we no longer have a partnership with you, since the values of your family are not in alignment with those of our school. Therefore, the school administration has made the decision to disenroll your child from our school.As it happens, the Mullers are mainstays of the parish and the school, where they are volunteer basketball and track coaches, run a Tuesday night open gym for the kids, and volunteer to do a lot of things other parents wont, said that same St. John mother, who like all four other parents I spoke to, did not want her name used out of fear that she, too, might be shown the door and left scrambling to find a new school three weeks before classes begin. Their whole life was that church. Its just wrong, and its going to hurt a lot of the kids. Hollees given so much of her time, Im shocked they would do this, said a second St. John mom.Paul Muller attended St. John himself, as did his 15 siblings. So this decision is devastating for their family, and for the wider community, too. Exactly what Catholic values do the Mullers not share? Hollee was vice president of the schools advisory board, and she objected to changes at the school since Father Sean McCaffery became pastor of the parish a year ago. The priest came rolling in hot, Hollee said, yanking books from the school library, including one about a polar bear with two mommies and all of Rick Riordans work, some of which features characters who are gay, bisexual, lesbian and trans. As Hollee herself sums up her supposed heresy, I dont think being blatantly homophobic is a teaching of the Catholic Church. The Duolingo language app was taken away, according to parents, because it translates the words gay and lesbian. CNN 10, a news source for explanation seekers on the go or in the classroom, was pulled, Hollee said, because the priest said we dont need the media teaching our kids. A third mom I spoke to said she was told that CNN 10 was out because its parent company is too liberal. She and others said Father McCaffery does not respond to concerns, or even look at us who ask questions. I dont consider myself liberal, but banning books, and Duolingo? Dont punish the child for the parent. And honestly, Hollee did nothing wrong. Hollee was also among those who spoke up after a teacher told her older sons seventh grade homeroom that girls who wear leggings might leave the impression that they are whores. School officials called the uproar that followed that classroom discussion a big misunderstanding, the not-liberal mom said, but a lot of parents were upset by what their kids told them about the teachers suggestion that it was up to girls to help boys get to heaven by protecting them from lustful thoughts. In one of a bunch of emails to and from school administration that Hollee shared with me, after the whore incident, she suggested to the school principal that perhaps we need to start working on educating our boys how to respect others and appropriate treatment of women instead of focusing on teaching girls how to stay safe around others. Her older son, Andrew, a rising eighth grader, had already decided not to stay at the school, where he had grown uncomfortable over the last year. But his younger brother Will still very much wanted to be there. As a private school, of course, St. John can expel anyone, any time, for any reason or none. Parents at the school sign a covenant that they will support church teachings, and Hollee freely admits that while shes a weekly Mass attending Catholic, she does not agree with everything her faith teaches.But punishing a child for the dissension of his parents does seem heartless: Hes in tears, Hollee said. Its only this decision by the school, she says, that has shaken her faith, not in God, but in whether I do belong in the church.</quote> [story continues]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CARRRNE_ASADA 07/31/23 9:20:04 AM #2:	Great, the new pastor is a red pilled incel (well more like voluntary this time), who's high on Tucker and current right wing propaganda. --- SEXY SEXY! <cite>CARRRNE_ASADA posted [p:975169447] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Great, the new pastor is a red pilled incel (well more like voluntary this time), who's high on Tucker and current right wing propaganda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 07/31/23 9:21:23 AM #3:	Really gotta riot against those people who just want everyone treated fair and equally, what would Jesus think of all that kindness? --- And as the people bend, The moral fabric dies, Then country can't pretend to ignore its peoples cries. <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:975169467] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Really gotta riot against those people who just want everyone treated fair and equally, what would Jesus think of all that kindness? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 07/31/23 9:24:30 AM #4:	just convert the school into a public school and imprison the old leadership. it has no value to society otherwise conservatives/the church really just need to fuck off. they are a drain on society <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:975169496] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>just convert the school into a public school and imprison the old leadership. it has no value to society otherwise conservatives/the church really just need to fuck off. they are a drain on society </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 07/31/23 9:31:29 AM #5:	brestugo posted... As Hollee herself sums up her supposed heresy, I dont think being blatantly homophobic is a teaching of the Catholic Church. Lady do I have some news for you --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:975169566] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>As Hollee herself sums up her supposed heresy, I dont think being blatantly homophobic is a teaching of the Catholic Church.</quote>Lady do I have some news for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/31/23 9:33:36 AM #6:	Under the current climate, they're probably getting some public money for this shit too. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975169586] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Under the current climate, they're probably getting some public money for this shit too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 07/31/23 9:34:26 AM #7:	Priests should not be allowed around children <cite>Gritty posted [p:975169598] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Priests should not be allowed around children </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 07/31/23 9:36:46 AM #8:	Lady joins religion that doesn't even allow women to be ministers surprised to find out said religion calls her daughter a whore --- --- <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:975169627] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Lady joins religion that doesn't even allow women to be ministers surprised to find out said religion calls her daughter a whore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 07/31/23 9:37:08 AM #9:	Lets go hang out with sinners and nonbelievers so that we can show them love. - Jesus Christ Were kicking your kid out of our Christian school because your values dont align with ours. - these assholes <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:975169633] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Lets go hang out with sinners and nonbelievers so that we can show them love. - Jesus ChristWere kicking your kid out of our Christian school because your values dont align with ours. - these assholes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/31/23 9:39:59 AM #10:	*a teacher told her older sons seventh grade homeroom that girls who wear leggings might leave the impression that they are whores.* School officials called the uproar that followed that classroom discussion a big misunderstanding, the not-liberal mom said, but a lot of parents were upset by what their kids told them about the teachers suggestion that it was up to girls to help boys get to heaven by protecting them from lustful thoughts. " I'll take 'things the Taliban would say' for $500, Mayim." --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975169672] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote><quote>a teacher told her older sons seventh grade homeroom that girls who wear leggings might leave the impression that they are whores. School officials called the uproar that followed that classroom discussion a big misunderstanding, the not-liberal mom said, but a lot of parents were upset by what their kids told them about the teachers suggestion that it was up to girls to help boys get to heaven by protecting them from lustful thoughts.</quote> " I'll take 'things the Taliban would say' for $500, Mayim."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/31/23 9:46:27 AM #11:	A. Sadly this is the schools right to do. B. The pastor, and at least 1 teacher, sound like typical right wing assholes. C. This is exactly what the right want to push toward via their school voucher bullshit. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:975169748] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>A. Sadly this is the schools right to do. B. The pastor, and at least 1 teacher, sound like typical right wing assholes. C. This is exactly what the right want to push toward via their school voucher bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 07/31/23 9:53:20 AM #12:	So you don't agree with the catholic church, but you stuck your kid in catholic school? --- I'm just a girl who loves games <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:975169849] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>So you don't agree with the catholic church, but you stuck your kid in catholic school? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tankboy 07/31/23 10:06:58 AM #13:	When applying for private schools for our kid, we looked at the school of a very liberal (Jesuit) Catholic Church, and they had a similar contract. While it certainly did not require you to be Catholic (I am not), it did require the kids and the parents to behave in a manner "consistent with the Church", even outside of school. I could probably find the exact wording later... But even most secular private schools have contracts that require students and parents to follow school regulations, even outside of school. For example, it allows the school to ignore a "but it was off campus" defense for things like bullying over social media. <cite>tankboy posted [p:975170026] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>When applying for private schools for our kid, we looked at the school of a very liberal (Jesuit) Catholic Church, and they had a similar contract. While it certainly did not require you to be Catholic (I am not), it did require the kids and the parents to behave in a manner "consistent with the Church", even outside of school. I could probably find the exact wording later...But even most secular private schools have contracts that require students and parents to follow school regulations, even outside of school. For example, it allows the school to ignore a "but it was off campus" defense for things like bullying over social media.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/31/23 10:23:50 AM #14:	Private school, private conditions. Lil_Bit83 posted... So you don't agree with the catholic church, but you stuck your kid in catholic school? Looks like the "leadership" changed, and then started changing the conditions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975170289] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Private school, private conditions.Lil_Bit83 posted... </cite><quote>So you don't agree with the catholic church, but you stuck your kid in catholic school?</quote>Looks like the "leadership" changed, and then started changing the conditions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 07/31/23 10:31:42 AM #15:	"disenrolled after much prayer" "After prayerful consideration and discussion among our school administration" So basically thoughts and prayers. Also, literally blaming girls for lustful thoughts boys may have. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:975170398] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>"disenrolled after much prayer""After prayerful consideration and discussion among our school administration"So basically thoughts and prayers.Also, literally blaming girls for lustful thoughts boys may have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/31/23 10:32:53 AM #16:	Lil_Bit83 posted... So you don't agree with the catholic church, but you stuck your kid in catholic school? Questionmarktarius posted... Private school, private conditions. Looks like the "leadership" changed, and then started changing the conditions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE The issue (listed in the article) is conditions not being equally enforced - And it has frightened other parents, which they believe was part of the point. One said shes afraid that since shes not Catholic, her family might be next. Another said that shes going to write to Bishop James V. Johnston, Jr., anonymously, since its now plain that any who disagree will be purged. All mentioned how hypocritical it is to single the Mullers son out for expulsion when many other single and divorced parents, along with some married ones, obviously arent in complete agreement with church doctrine, either. We do sign that family covenant that says well go to Mass every Sunday, but Im at Mass every Sunday and there are a lot of people who arent there, said the same mom who called Will the only one in his class who never got in trouble. I dont agree with all of the teachings of the Catholic Church. In fact, Im in line at the pharmacy to pick up my birth control right now, and no ones kicking me out. If complete fidelity adherence to, or even agreement with all doctrine were really a requirement rather than a goal, Catholic schools would be empty. And if evangelization were the point, youd think the school would be more concerned about keeping the child in the fold than about excluding his parents from it. Also private schools do have some limitations - they can't discriminate based on race for example. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:975170407] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Lil_Bit83 posted... </cite><quote>So you don't agree with the catholic church, but you stuck your kid in catholic school?</quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Private school, private conditions.Looks like the "leadership" changed, and then started changing the conditions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE</quote>The issue (listed in the article) is conditions not being equally enforced -And it has frightened other parents, which they believe was part of the point. One said shes afraid that since shes not Catholic, her family might be next. Another said that shes going to write to Bishop James V. Johnston, Jr., anonymously, since its now plain that any who disagree will be purged. All mentioned how hypocritical it is to single the Mullers son out for expulsion when many other single and divorced parents, along with some married ones, obviously arent in complete agreement with church doctrine, either. We do sign that family covenant that says well go to Mass every Sunday, but Im at Mass every Sunday and there are a lot of people who arent there, said the same mom who called Will the only one in his class who never got in trouble. I dont agree with all of the teachings of the Catholic Church. In fact, Im in line at the pharmacy to pick up my birth control right now, and no ones kicking me out. If complete fidelity adherence to, or even agreement with all doctrine were really a requirement rather than a goal, Catholic schools would be empty. And if evangelization were the point, youd think the school would be more concerned about keeping the child in the fold than about excluding his parents from it.Also private schools do have some limitations - they can't discriminate based on race for example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 08/01/23 11:18:16 PM #18:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm not sure <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:975201331] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm not sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 08/01/23 11:19:35 PM #19:	Never trust Catholic authorities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnRF_hsYQCE&t=562s --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:975201344] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Never trust Catholic authorities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnRF_hsYQCE&t=562s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 08/01/23 11:23:04 PM #20:	Strider102 posted... literally blaming girls for lustful thoughts boys may have. it's always been that way since day 1. --- beware of the chun-li <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:975201400] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted...</cite><quote>literally blaming girls for lustful thoughts boys may have.</quote>it's always been that way since day 1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 08/01/23 11:25:37 PM #21:	Good, now they can enroll into a good school. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:975201442] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Good, now they can enroll into a good school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 08/01/23 11:31:58 PM #22:	So if I don't get to go to heaven I can blame all the girls that didn't cover up enough to prevent my lustful thoughts? I wonder if God will buy that? Just kidding! I don't believe in God, so I'm fucked either way! Bring on the scantily clad honeys! --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:975201544] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>So if I don't get to go to heaven I can blame all the girls that didn't cover up enough to prevent my lustful thoughts? I wonder if God will buy that?Just kidding! I don't believe in God, so I'm fucked either way! Bring on the scantily clad honeys!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 08/01/23 11:48:32 PM #23:	Who would have thought a Catholic school would promote regressive ideologies? Good on them for trying to maintain their faith with an actual Jesus-like love for all.. but come on. The it's the fucking Catholic church. --- Thank you for being a friend <3 <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:975201747] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Who would have thought a Catholic school would promote regressive ideologies?Good on them for trying to maintain their faith with an actual Jesus-like love for all.. but come on. The it's the fucking Catholic church.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 08/02/23 7:27:33 AM #25:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That's the thing. The voucher movement allows these kind of institutions to get federal money. Red states have made it especially easy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're getting federal money. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975205162] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That's the thing. The voucher movement allows these kind of institutions to get federal money. Red states have made it especially easy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they're getting federal money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 08/02/23 7:30:26 AM #26:	having attended multiple catholic schools growing up I learned theyre completely inconsistent. But they all act like their way is the only way. They also pay teachers dog shit compared to public schools in the same area. The reason teachers work there is they get more control over their curriculum. But if this priest is trying to be this controlling it basically takes away the one incentive teachers have to work there. <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:975205186] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>having attended multiple catholic schools growing up I learned theyre completely inconsistent. But they all act like their way is the only way. They also pay teachers dog shit compared to public schools in the same area. The reason teachers work there is they get more control over their curriculum. But if this priest is trying to be this controlling it basically takes away the one incentive teachers have to work there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 08/02/23 8:02:04 AM #27:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/3/AAASdDAAEMEx.jpg --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachToadDickTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:975205474] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/3/AAASdDAAEMEx.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 08/02/23 9:04:43 AM #28:	Ruvan22 posted... If complete fidelity adherence to, or even agreement with all doctrine were really a requirement rather than a goal, Catholic schools would be empty. This. Never will an entire group agree 100% on everything no matter how "devout" they are. That's just not gonna happen. The whole thing heavily reeks of "No True Scotsman" fallacy Frankly, I'm amazed the school even had those kinds of books to begin with. --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:975206061] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>If complete fidelity adherence to, or even agreement with all doctrine were really a requirement rather than a goal, Catholic schools would be empty.</quote>This. Never will an entire group agree 100% on everything no matter how "devout" they are. That's just not gonna happen.The whole thing heavily reeks of "No True Scotsman" fallacyFrankly, I'm amazed the school even had those kinds of books to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 08/02/23 9:07:50 AM #29:	HylianFox posted... This. Never will an entire group agree 100% on everything no matter how "devout" they are. That's just not gonna happen. The whole thing heavily reeks of "No True Scotsman" fallacy Frankly, I'm amazed the school even had those kinds of books to begin with. Sounds like it may have been a "reasonable" place - as Catholic schools go - before this new priest. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975206092] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>This. Never will an entire group agree 100% on everything no matter how "devout" they are. That's just not gonna happen.The whole thing heavily reeks of "No True Scotsman" fallacyFrankly, I'm amazed the school even had those kinds of books to begin with.</quote>Sounds like it may have been a "reasonable" place - as Catholic schools go - before this new priest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 08/02/23 9:10:05 AM #30:	brestugo posted... Sounds like it may have been a "reasonable" place - as Catholic schools go - before this new priest. Well yeah, as someone else noted the new lead pastor is clearly a Tucker devotee... --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:975206122] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>Sounds like it may have been a "reasonable" place - as Catholic schools go - before this new priest.</quote>Well yeah, as someone else noted the new lead pastor is clearly a Tucker devotee...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 08/02/23 9:14:31 AM #31:	boomgetchopped3 posted... having attended multiple catholic schools growing up I learned theyre completely inconsistent. But they all act like their way is the only way. This is true of all religious institutions. They don't all agree yet they think their way is the only way. (Granted, some are less strict than others, but all have core 'principles' that they believe, and generally try to make so everyone else adheres to them as well) It's why I've given up on the church. When it comes to my own personal philosophy and life, I'm much more concerned with the pursuit of truth and good conduct than adherence to any sort of rules or dogma. --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:975206168] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>boomgetchopped3 posted... </cite><quote>having attended multiple catholic schools growing up I learned theyre completely inconsistent. But they all act like their way is the only way.</quote>This is true of all religious institutions. They don't all agree yet they think their way is the only way.(Granted, some are less strict than others, but all have core 'principles' that they believe, and generally try to make so everyone else adheres to them as well)It's why I've given up on the church. When it comes to my own personal philosophy and life, I'm much more concerned with the pursuit of truth and good conduct than adherence to any sort of rules or dogma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 08/02/23 9:15:24 AM #32:	Yall got any more of that "forgiveness"? --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:975206182] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Yall got any more of that "forgiveness"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 08/02/23 4:24:12 PM #33:	HylianFox posted... This is true of all religious institutions. They don't all agree yet they think their way is the only way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78 <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:975213714] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite><quote>This is true of all religious institutions. They don't all agree yet they think their way is the only way.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 08/02/23 4:32:18 PM #34:	Ahhhhh right wingers love their free speech and not visiting the "sins" of the father unto the child. Adorable. --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:975213857] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Ahhhhh right wingers love their free speech and not visiting the "sins" of the father unto the child.Adorable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/02/23 8:34:43 PM #35:	Reality is stupid. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:975218279] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Reality is stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 08/02/23 8:37:31 PM #36:	Lonestar2000 posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/3/AAASdDAAEMEx.jpg Horseshoe theory --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:975218336] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Lonestar2000 posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/3/AAASdDAAEMEx.jpg</quote>Horseshoe theory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Notti 08/02/23 9:08:57 PM #37:	voldothegr8 posted... Horseshoe theory 2 sides of the same coin. --- http://m.youtube.com/TheYoungTurks/videos Bernie>Biden>poo>Trump http://RightWingWatch.org http://reddit.com/r/BreadTube http://fb.me/OccupyDemocrats <cite>Notti posted [p:975218946] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted...<quote>Horseshoe theory</quote>2 sides of the same coin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 08/02/23 9:23:10 PM #38:	voldothegr8 posted... Horseshoe theory No. They're both right wing, they just follow a different book. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:975219188] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>Horseshoe theory</quote>No. They're both right wing, they just follow a different book. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 08/02/23 9:25:19 PM #39:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] They are tax exempt and they shouldnt be no church or a religious organization should <cite>Gritty posted [p:975219234] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> They are tax exempt and they shouldnt beno church or a religious organization should</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 08/02/23 9:26:24 PM #40:	jumi posted... No. They're both right wing, they just follow a different book. It doesn't have to be political, it just states extremists of any spectrum aren't all that different from each other. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:975219262] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite><quote>No. They're both right wing, they just follow a different book.</quote>It doesn't have to be political, it just states extremists of any spectrum aren't all that different from each other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snip-N-Snails 08/05/23 8:21:24 AM #42:	A lesson in not signing up for these schools --- #BLM <cite>Snip-N-Snails posted [p:975263408] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>A lesson in not signing up for these schools </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 08/05/23 8:23:30 AM #43:	Time to for the feds to forcibly shut the school down. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:975263427] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Time to for the feds to forcibly shut the school down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown781 08/05/23 8:54:10 AM #44:	A bunch of fake ass Christians anyways just like the majority of right wing "Christians" are. <cite>Unknown781 posted [p:975263721] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>A bunch of fake ass Christians anyways just like the majority of right wing "Christians" are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 08/05/23 9:01:44 AM #45:	voldothegr8 posted... It doesn't have to be political, it just states extremists of any spectrum aren't all that different from each other. But that wouldn't be the opposite side of the horseshoe, atheism would be. If both ends are religion then that operates on the presupposition that religion is the default state and the shades are what religion you believe in. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:975263812] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>It doesn't have to be political, it just states extremists of any spectrum aren't all that different from each other.</quote>But that wouldn't be the opposite side of the horseshoe, atheism would be. If both ends are religion then that operates on the presupposition that religion is the default state and the shades are what religion you believe in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 08/05/23 9:14:37 AM #46:	Gritty posted... They are tax exempt and they shouldnt be no church or a religious organization should I agree. I think that's contributing to "establishment of religion" which the 1st Amendment prohibits. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975263933] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Gritty posted... </cite><quote>They are tax exempt and they shouldnt beno church or a religious organization should</quote>I agree. I think that's contributing to "establishment of religion" which the 1st Amendment prohibits. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nirvanas_Nox 08/05/23 9:52:42 AM #47:	This is why religious schools should never have ever become a thing. --- Make sure not to bleed over the discs.- Xiciassa NOT IN MY CANTINA! - Bartender <cite>Nirvanas_Nox posted [p:975264334] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>This is why religious schools should never have ever become a thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 08/05/23 10:01:07 AM #48:	Feel bad for the kid, but this is the kinda thing you can expect enrolling in religious schools --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:975264406] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Feel bad for the kid, but this is the kinda thing you can expect enrolling in religious schools </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 08/05/23 10:31:19 AM #49:	LordFarquad1312 posted... Good, now they can enroll into a good school. See normally, with Missouri-side KC schools I'd tell you that they're SOL, which is why people enroll in private schools over there to begin with, but Blue Springs is the actual bright spot over there so the kid probably will get a better education. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:975264714] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>LordFarquad1312 posted... </cite><quote>Good, now they can enroll into a good school.</quote>See normally, with Missouri-side KC schools I'd tell you that they're SOL, which is why people enroll in private schools over there to begin with, but Blue Springs is the actual bright spot over there so the kid probably will get a better education. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/05/23 5:08:02 PM #50:	Compsognathus posted... See normally, with Missouri-side KC schools I'd tell you that they're SOL North of the river is a completely different district for some reason. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:975270494] in Catholic s... [t:80524219]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>See normally, with Missouri-side KC schools I'd tell you that they're SOL</quote>North of the river is a completely different district for some reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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