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wackyteen
08/09/23 12:18:41 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/us/chicago-girl-shot-dead-gun-violence/index.html

A 9-year-old girl was fatally shot in front of her Chicago home bya neighbor, who allegedly fired the gun at her before her father ran toward the shooter and tackled him to the ground, according to a legal document CNN obtained Tuesday.
Michael Goodman, 43, is charged with first-degree murder in the killing of the child, who rode her scooter to buy ice cream from a nearby ice cream truck before the shooting Saturday evening, according to the document.
The shooting comes as the US continues to grapple with widespread gun violence, which is the leading cause of death in children and teenagers in the country.
Firearms accounted for nearly 19% of childhood deaths (ages 1-18) in 2021, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Wonder database. Nearly 3,600 children died in gun-related incidents that year.
Before Saturdays shooting, the girls father was talking to friends who were in a vehicle in front of his Portage Park residence while his daughter, identified as V, was riding her scooter, according to the document, known as a bond proffer.
The father heard a gunshot and told his daughter to take her scooter back to the apartment.
As V approached the front door of her apartment building, D (shooter) emerged from his apartment building across the street holding a firearm, the document states.
The father and other witnesses saw the neighbor identified as Michael Goodman across the street as he approached the child, and the father shouted at the neighbor what he was doing, according to the document.
While Vs father ran to his daughter, he observed D raise the firearm, point it at the V, and shoot the V in the head. Vs father tackled D into the vestibule and as they both fell to the ground the gun discharged, striking D in the eye, the document said.
The child was taken to a hospital where she was pronounced dead. The suspect was arrested and taken to a hospital.
Police swabbed the suspects hands while he was in the hospital, and they tested positive for gunshot residue, the document said. A 9 mm Canik firearm was recovered outside the apartment.
Goodman is being held without bail at authorities request.
The defendant is responsible for the death of a person and the defendant was armed with a firearm and that he personally discharged that firearm and it proximately caused death to another individual, the document states.
The gun violence epidemic in the United States was deadlier than ever in 2021, according to a report released this year by the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions.
Both gun-related homicides and suicides reached record levels in 2021, leading to nearly 49,000 total firearm deaths.
Firearm-related deaths soared during the first year of the Covid-19 pandemic and spiked again in the second year. The 8% jump leading to about 3,600 more deaths in 2021 than in 2020 was the largest single-year increase in four decades.
Our country is breaking records for all the wrong reasons record gun sales combined with increasingly permissive gun laws are making gun violence a pervasive part of life in our country, leading to a sharp increase in gun deaths, Ari Davis, policy adviser at the center and lead author of the report, said in a statement.
More than half of all firearm deaths, as well as most of the year-over-year increase, were suicides, the report found.

If I've tackled the mother fucker that shot my child dead, he ain't going to fucking jail. I'm going to fucking jail.

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ArtiRock
08/09/23 12:19:31 PM
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What the fuck!?

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:22:19 PM
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More than half of all firearm deaths, as well as most of the year-over-year increase, were suicides, the report found.

I have no idea if the "and now some statistics that are barely relevant to the article" is an agenda, or just filler, or both.
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Solar_Crimson
08/09/23 12:22:44 PM
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Yeah, I read about this earlier.

The dude is a legit psychopath who needs to be put away forever.

Also, the father lost his wife 5 years prior. I can't imagine also losing your kid as well in such a short time after.

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wackyteen
08/09/23 12:23:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I have no idea if the "and now some statistics that are barely relevant to the article" is an agenda, or just filler, or both.

Probably there to pre-empt the "Well it looks bad but half those are people killing themselves!"

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boxoto
08/09/23 12:27:54 PM
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super fucked up story.

there are too many psychos out there, with dangerous weapons, who mean to harm others, and unfortunately, many politicians continue to sit on their thumbs.

RIP to the girl

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SgtBash
08/09/23 12:31:23 PM
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This is a justifiable reason for stricter gun control.

The guy should get life without parole for what he did. Piece of shit, fuck him

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littlebro07
08/09/23 12:32:31 PM
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wackyteen posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/us/chicago-girl-shot-dead-gun-violence/index.html

If I've tackled the mother fucker that shot my child dead, he ain't going to fucking jail. I'm going to fucking jail.

Yep, that gun is getting picked off the ground and every single round left in it will be in his fucking face.


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texanfan27
08/09/23 12:34:42 PM
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What the hell? What did the girl do to deserve that? I want to hear the reasoning that said someone had to die today. We need nationwide gun reform, all states the same tight laws so people dont get their hands on guns unless they should.

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Solar_Crimson
08/09/23 12:35:37 PM
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texanfan27 posted...
What the hell? What did the girl do to deserve that? I want to hear the reasoning that said someone had to die today. We need nationwide gun reform, all states the same tight laws so people dont get their hands on guns unless they should.
Supposedly, he has complained about how loud the kids in his neighborhood were before, and I guess on this day he just snapped.

To that I say: they're kids. Of course they're going to be loud when playing outside.


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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:36:08 PM
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texanfan27 posted...
What the hell? What did the girl do to deserve that? I want to hear the reasoning that said someone had to die today.
Some people are just assholes.

We need nationwide gun reform, all states the same tight laws so people dont get their hands on guns unless they should.
The chances that gun was legally acquired, is likely going to be somewhere around zero. At the very least, I suspect shenanigans.
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AsucaHayashi
08/09/23 12:36:37 PM
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SgtBash posted...
This is a justifiable reason for stricter gun control.

In this time og mourning it is not appropriate to talk about gun control


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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:37:52 PM
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Dad fucked that guy up pretty good.

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Kimbos_Egg
08/09/23 12:38:17 PM
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https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/chicago-shooting-suspect-110.jpg?quality=75&strip=all

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Kimbos_Egg
08/09/23 12:38:32 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Dad fucked that guy up pretty good.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/0/AAEhCpAAEvQS.jpg

beat me to it.

now ill beat you.

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Strider102
08/09/23 12:39:07 PM
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What the fuck...

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DKBananaSlamma
08/09/23 12:40:14 PM
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That's awful. Chicago is such a shithole.

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littlebro07
08/09/23 12:41:04 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Dad fucked that guy up pretty good.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/0/AAEhCpAAEvQS.jpg

Not good enough IMO

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mercurydude
08/09/23 12:41:18 PM
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Reminder that republican sympathies are with the murderer here. To them, the dead child is just one of many and "what can you do" "thoughts and prayers *YAWN*", etc.

It's infuriating that the "pro-life" crowd keeps being so dismissive over actual babies being murdered while they fight tooth and nail to defend zygotes.

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GranAures
08/09/23 12:42:52 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Supposedly, he has complained about how loud the kids in his neighborhood were before, and I guess on this day he just snapped.
Well, he won't be dealing with loud kids for a very long time, hopefully ever again.

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:43:44 PM
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GranAures posted...
Well, he won't be dealing with loud kids for a very long time, hopefully ever again.
Once he gets to prison, it won't be a long time.
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ironman2009
08/09/23 12:44:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Once he gets to prison, it won't be a long time.

Plus it's loud as fuck in prison

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dummy420
08/09/23 12:45:30 PM
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Wow. He killed a kid just for a seemingly random reason of riding a scooter near him. It's always bad but this one hits particularly bad.

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GranAures
08/09/23 12:46:31 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
Plus it's loud as fuck in prison
He won't be brave enough to try anything with his block mates.

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fred12935
08/09/23 12:47:15 PM
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Must be those white supremacist again
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psideresider
08/09/23 12:49:20 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Dad fucked that guy up pretty good.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/0/AAEhCpAAEvQS.jpg


as they both fell to the ground the gun discharged, striking D in the eye, the document said.

I believe the injury is from the bullet. What a pos though.

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darkace77450
08/09/23 12:49:31 PM
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The GOP and NRA's response to this will be to claim that he's mentally ill. Our response to them must be to point out that he could have legally purchased the firearm at a gun show with no questions asked.
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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 12:51:48 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Our response to them must be to point out that he could have legally purchased the firearm at a gun show with no questions asked.
Make NICS public
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gatorsPENSbucs
08/09/23 12:54:02 PM
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mercurydude posted...
Reminder that republican sympathies are with the murderer here.

I dont see that in this topic, can you link to those?


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DarkBuster22904
08/09/23 12:56:36 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The chances that gun was legally acquired, is likely going to be somewhere around zero. At the very least, I suspect shenanigans.
Based on what?

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Ivynn
08/09/23 1:00:51 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
The GOP and NRA's response to this will be to claim that he's mentally ill.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/9/AAZaD9AAEvQb.jpg

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 1:05:49 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Based on what?
Mugshot looks like a "gunshow loophole" instance. While it's technically legal to "private transfer" the guy a gun, I'd assume he was forbidden from actually having one.

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Lordgold666
08/09/23 1:15:57 PM
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I couldnt even begin to imagine that happening to my kids this is so sad to hear :(

What the hell is going on over in chicago? Dozens of other people were shot over that same weekend too

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-weekend-shootings-aug-4-to-7/

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Questionmarktarius
08/09/23 1:21:23 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
What the hell is going on over in chicago? Dozens of other people were shot over that same weekend too
at risk of being "that guy", this is only news because a little white girl is involved.
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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 1:23:37 PM
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wackyteen posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/us/chicago-girl-shot-dead-gun-violence/index.html

If I've tackled the mother fucker that shot my child dead, he ain't going to fucking jail. I'm going to fucking jail.

No you'd probably get away with it. You might not even be charged.

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Enclave
08/09/23 1:32:23 PM
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I bet if you look into his past there's a ton of shit that shows he had ZERO business owning a gun but this is the price of freedom apparently. Disgusting.

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Foppe
08/09/23 1:34:42 PM
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Almost 10 children died in gun-related incidents daily...

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voldothegr8
08/09/23 1:35:14 PM
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If I was the dad that guy would either be dead by my hands or I die from his gun.

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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 1:37:02 PM
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Foppe posted...
Almost 10 children died in gun-related incidents daily...

It's usually accidents or incidental death.

It's pretty rare for someone to just straight up murder a 9 year old in cold blood.

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CyborgSage00x0
08/09/23 1:39:05 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
That's awful. America is such a shithole.
Fixed for you. This happens everyday, all over.

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AceMos
08/09/23 1:57:21 PM
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this guy wont last long in prison

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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 1:59:18 PM
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AceMos posted...
this guy wont last long in prison

Yeah. People sometimes think it only happens to pedos but if you hurt women / children in any way for any reason you're gonna not have a good time in prison.

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Kradek
08/09/23 2:05:20 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The chances that gun was legally acquired, is likely going to be somewhere around zero. At the very least, I suspect shenanigans.

Why? People behave irresponsibly with legally purchased firearms all the time. Lately it seems like all the well-known mass shootings were done with legally purchased/obtained firearms.

The fact that Chicago has very strict gun control laws is rather easily countered with their very close neighbor, Indiana, who has some of the loosest gun control laws in the nation.

Not difficult at all to take a 30-60 minute drive (if even that) to purchase a firearm legally.

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Zikten
08/09/23 2:05:40 PM
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That poor dad. What a nightmare
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GranAures
08/09/23 2:08:37 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Yeah. People sometimes think it only happens to pedos but if you hurt women / children in any way for any reason you're gonna not have a good time in prison.
Yeah, I expect somebody will ask how he got the metal scar and he won't be able to help himself. Then a lot of folks will take issue and he will have very few friends.

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Foppe
08/09/23 2:46:54 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's usually accidents or incidental death.

It's pretty rare for someone to just straight up murder a 9 year old in cold blood.
Like that would make it better...

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Tyranthraxus
08/09/23 2:55:57 PM
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Foppe posted...
Like that would make it better...
I'm explaining why this case is getting extra attention, not minimizing the gun violence pandemonium in America.

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mybbqrules
08/09/23 2:59:57 PM
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wackyteen posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/us/chicago-girl-shot-dead-gun-violence/index.html

If I've tackled the mother fucker that shot my child dead, he ain't going to fucking jail. I'm going to fucking jail.
This. They be picking pieces of his skull out of my knuckles. It would be Bruce Willis Sin City beatdown all over again.

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WalkingPlague
08/09/23 3:05:42 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
Yep, that gun is getting picked off the ground and every single round left in it will be in his fucking face.
im not one to promote violence, but i co-sign the fuck out of this. that situation calls for all-hands on deck. everyone is getting smoke.

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Kaldrenthebold
08/09/23 3:07:53 PM
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I'm shocked that guy is still alive. I absolutely would have murdered him.

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