Board 8 > Which Trump indictment is most likely to stick?

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Paratroopa1 posted...

If Desantis is off the table for you, then Pence should be absolutely nowhere near your lips as a possible candidate.

Pence is almost assuredly not even happening anyways, but I'm curious what's wrong with him, other than his traitor label?

foolm0r0n posted...

From me, yes, but that's just my opinion. There are plenty of proud centrists. There's even more embarrassed centrists though.

John Cleese, etc.

https://youtu.be/HLNhPMQnWu4

Maybe sit the rest of this one out, Mr 'J6 Was OvErBlOwn'

Well I did say from the off that Trump was mostly responsible for the withdrawal going badly and otherwise it was literally just noting that Biden was the one who did it in the end. Thats not centrism thats just describing what happened.

BakusaiTenketsu posted...

Pence is almost assuredly not even happening anyways, but I'm curious what's wrong with him, other than his traitor label?

Very homophobic, links to conversion therapy. I dunno if he quite tops DeSantis in terms of overt homophobia and anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry but hes up there.

xenosaga posted...

Maybe sit the rest of this one out, Mr 'J6 Was OvErBlOwn'

Enjoy your echo chamber.

LightningStrikes posted...

Very homophobic, links to conversion therapy. I dunno if he quite tops DeSantis in terms of overt homophobia and anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry but hes up there.

I hadn't heard this. Thanks!

BakusaiTenketsu posted...

Is centrism really an insult though, lol?

If somebody is using it derogatorily, they're using it to mean essentially this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/5/AAcM16AAEwKB.png
usually with an added bonus that they no have beliefs in themselves, they're just acquiescing to the status quo and basing their position off of the average to make themselves seem "enlightened" because of the median fallacy.

You of course can generally have informed and considered opinions that happen to fall in between political extremes in whatever society you're in which can make you a "centrist", but there's a certain conceit common enough to those who are proudly centrist or apolitical that engenders this usage. LS knew exactly what fool meant

Id be more surprised to see a member of the GOP that isnt racist and/or anti-LGBTQ. Thats like the bulk of their identity other than Trump

Uglyface2 posted...

Enjoy your echo chamber.

I'm fine with differing opinions, after a take that stupid though oof.
It was just little riot. At the capital. Orchestrated to stop the peaceful transfer of power. No biggie.

LightningStrikes posted...

Very homophobic, links to conversion therapy. I dunno if he quite tops DeSantis in terms of overt homophobia and anti-LGBTQ+ bigotry but hes up there.

I mean this is barely scratching the surface of Mike Pence but yeah. He's an extreme far-right Christian dominionist and bigot who literally believes (there's articles about this!) that god put him on earth to be president. Absolutely terrifying man with no scruples whatsoever other than achieving power and using it to install evangelical christianity as the US's religion.

xenosaga posted...

I'm fine with differing opinions, after a take that stupid though oof.
It was just little riot. At the capital. Orchestrated to stop the peaceful transfer of power. No biggie.

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/format:webp/1*XWKRezUnZh1BPzVA_nFXYg.jpeg

Will we ever see a day where the Republican party pushes half-decent human beings who actually want to fix this fucked up country?

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate."

barreldragon88 posted...

Will we ever see a day where the Republican party pushes half-decent human beings who actually want to fix this fucked up country?

No such things. Any decent humans amongst them are tossed out of the party Liz Cheney style. The Republican platform is literally just fascism.

barreldragon88 posted...

Will we ever see a day where the Republican party pushes half-decent human beings who actually want to fix this fucked up country?

Considering the last time it happened was the 1950s, I wouldn't count on it.

barreldragon88 posted...

Will we ever see a day where the Republican party pushes half-decent human beings who actually want to fix this fucked up country?

if you want a conservative who's only half-awful the democrats are right there

On-topic, I voted for Georgia for one simple reason: It's a state offense. He can't wash it away by pardoning himself, and that means he can't use that as an excuse for why the election takes precedence.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Considering the last time it happened was the 1950s, I wouldn't count on it.

That's not very long ago. You know people who were alive at the time. It could very well happen again. Impossible while trumpism survives though.

Uglyface2 posted...

John Cleese, etc.

https://youtu.be/HLNhPMQnWu4

You should watch this while staring at a picture of the hole in Ashley Babbit's face

foolm0r0n posted...

That's not very long ago. You know people who were alive at the time. It could very well happen again. Impossible while trumpism survives though.

The people who were alive and politically active at that point are in their 90s now. I don't even expect them to outlast Trumpism.

Uglyface2 posted...

Enjoy your echo chamber.

Oh the irony.

Uglyface2 posted...

Enjoy your echo chamber.

This comment was about 1/6 and many of us listened to multiple Republicans for its investigations.

Honestly, almost all of the testimony in the 1/6 case is from Republicans - hell, from Republicans who were working in Trump's own administration. And as the accounts get closer and closer to 1/6 itself from those who were choosing to stick with him even as more and more began peeling away as Trump kept going further and further in his efforts to maintain power (like how it got too much for even Barr and so while he could testify to events in the immediate aftermath of the election/November, eventually the Justice officials testifying are ones who remained even after Barr was gone, etc.)

Anyway, good question here but a weird question to answer too. Georgia's case will stick around the longest and be the most inescapable in that way. Stealing secrets and stealing elections cannot be stood for by a democracy of any sort. Society has mostly accepted paying off Stormy Daniels in a legally questionable way as canon as opposed to the more rigorous party-line divisions of what happened that come with the other three. Each of those indictments can be an answer here depending on the lens you view the question with here.

Voted 1/6. It's just Donald being tried instead of having to worry about trying additional people alongside him, the indictment covers so much more about before the insurrection happened in addition to the day of the attack and even later that same day, and the precedent its decision will leave is arguably the biggest of them all here. Politically, we've already seen it divide his party to some degree as well, and despite two and a half years it doesn't seem like Donald or Republicans defending 1/6 have a consistent story about what happened. It's no guarantee for punishment or a guilty verdict here, but Donald is in trouble.

This Georgia indictment is very broad and aggressive in going after what appears to be the entire Trump legal team. Feels constitutionally unsound as to a bunch of the "conspirators."

Fulton County is of course a very bad venue for Trump given how blue it is. He'll probably try to get it moved to MTG's district.

Oh I'm just realizing what this topic is actually asking. For some reason I thought it was asking which one people will still remember years in the future.