Current Events > I'm playing Pathfinder: WotR and I have no idea what I'm doing.part 2*spoilers*

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Title is for consistency's sake. I figured out how this game works. I think.

ANYWAY, at the end. I had no idea how long this game would take me. I'm 144+ hours in and I'm finally near the end.

Cleared out the map of demons and captured all the forts. All that's left is Threshold.

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Dope for my army

Ivynn posted...

Cleared out the map of demons and captured all the forts. All that's left is start another playthrough as an evil Lich.

Fixed that for you.

I know, you know it, and we also know that a break from pathfinder is necassary as well.

Edit: Also, congrats to the 500, and

you are now tracking this topic

Karovorak posted...

Fixed that for you.

Pssh, now he needs to do a "canon" run.

Which would end up being awkwardly similar, but using the guide a lot more to not goof up the secrets.

And I wouldn't worry about Angel coloring the later playthroughs by being too OP, Ivynn. They are *all* OP and Angel isn't even the top of the heap. It is just generically always useful no matter the role + class you are running. Something like Trickster is just about as strong, but has a far heavier emphasis on being good with martial classes (with a bit of an emphasis on Rogue). For instance, you can get a spell resistance bonus of your Stealth - 10, which can somewhat make you immune to a lot of the spells cast your direction at higher levels (as in, the DC against hitting you is so high that nothing ever does). Similarly you can have a Persuasion + 10 DC Will attack against all enemies at the start of combat or they just instantly die on their first turn (no additional saves, they just die).

The strongest is arguably Azata (ignoring Legend, which isn't exactly a "true" Mythic Path), but even then it's not like it's so much better than the others that you are just going to trivialize what is going on compared to the others: every single Mythic Path is busted nonsense that makes you insanely OP compared to a normal character. All that matters is that you don't have one of the few ones that greatly emphasize one side of the coin, such as Demon for physical melee classes or lich for casters, than the build you are going for. I can guarantee that unless you actively do that you will utterly dumpster everything by the end of the game.

Be a LICH.

Negative Eruption Information
Level: 9
School: Necromancy
Spell Effect:
This spell acts as harm spell, but affects all creatures in 30 feet radius. Additionally, all affected undead creatures gain +2 bonus to attack rolls, damage rolls, Will saving throws and twice the caster level temporary hit points.

Harm: Harm charges a subject with negative energy that deals 10 points of damage per caster level (to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level). If the creature successfully saves, harm deals half this amount.nIf used on an undead creature, harm acts like heal.

Blessing of Unlife Information
Level: 7
School: Necromancy
Spell Effect: Your power of unlife lets you temporarily make your own allies similar to undead. for 10 minutes per caster level a chosen ally gains undead immunities, negative energy affinity and DR 5/ Bludgeoning.

The thing with doing a Lich playthrough next is that it seems like a mythic path that synergizes mostly with a caster and I already did a playthrough as a spellcaster. Is a melee Lich viable?

Man that Kor...Khora...Kory Mazda fight was brutal, probably harder than Baphomet and Deskari and this is just the front gates! Now into Threshold proper.

If you want to go melee I'd say Trickster or Demon.

You can make a pretty hilarious Lich monk but Sorcerer is the way if you want pure power.

Ivynn posted...

The thing with doing a Lich playthrough next is that it seems like a mythic path that synergizes mostly with a caster and I already did a playthrough as a spellcaster. Is a melee Lich viable?

Man that Kor...Khora...Kory Mazda fight was brutal, probably harder than Baphomet and Deskari and this is just the front gates! Now into Threshold proper.

Not really, no. Lich isn't *completely* useless for physical characters, but you pretty much have slim pickings for anything actually useful. For instance, you have a skill that increases your attack and damage against frightened creatures that works with all sources, but it's not like the +10 damage that it gives in total is going to be the thing that really makes you feel like you haven't wasted a role.

Hence why I feel like you should use a guide and do a "canon" run as Aeon -> Gold Dragon (the secret Mythic path that is definitely the most canon Mythic Path that the game has... though technically it would be more canon to start with Angel ~.~ ) while getting the secret ending (which is even more canon than than the choice on Mythic Path), and potentially get the secret romance as well (definitely more skippable... but you might as well ~.~). That route lets you do a physical build without really giving you any restrictions as while Aeon is more geared towards cast most of what it does is pretty fine when doing physical stuffs and once you move to the other Mythic Path you will be perfectly set up for a martial build as while it has some bonus features for casting (such as turning all spell casts that would use dice smaller than a d10 into using a d10) most of what it does is highly applicable to martial stuffs (of which is pretty obvious when you look at its ability listing).

Lich being a full caster seems like the obvious choice for a reason, but I swear, some day I will try a Magus Lich and go full Death Knight.

But I have so many other paths still unfinished.

I have a new least favorite enemy now. That friggin Gavu Stormcaller. Threshold keeps spamming them and they keep spamming Tsunami which wipes out half my guys. Actually, no, the crystal monsters are still worse, but these Stormcallers are up there!

Now I gotta fight monsters in my camp using the characters I benched for most of the playthrough and haven't optimally kitted out.

Joy.

Ivynn posted...

Gavu Stormcaller

Every time you mentioned an irritating enemy, I thought of these guys.

All of Act 5 made me feel like an OP god, but Threshold is like "lolno." Threshold is such a difficulty spike lol.

Well time to fight Areelu. Gonna kick her ass and post the fight video later.

I got my ass beat, I'm not posting that

Ivynn posted...

The thing with doing a Lich playthrough next is that it seems like a mythic path that synergizes mostly with a caster and I already did a playthrough as a spellcaster. Is a melee Lich viable?

Man that Kor...Khora...Kory Mazda fight was brutal, probably harder than Baphomet and Deskari and this is just the front gates! Now into Threshold proper.

Yes, a melee lich is very viable. In fact there's a weapon in game that makes melee spellcasters viable which I've given to Nenio when I want her to be able to fight in the frontline which works very well with her since being a kitsune gives her access to vulpine pounce which allows you to make full attacks from a charge.

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Being a reach weapon means you won't need to worry much about AC plus size increase spells also increase weapon reach. Merged lich gives you early access to very powerful spells, including vampiric blade and other nice spells. Angel and Lich are so overpowered if you play as a merged caster because it gives you much earlier access to Lich and Angel spells plus an increase in caster level which means you'll be able to turn those OP buffs into 24hr spells with extend metamagic and sufficient caster level. If you don't play merged caster their power drops a bit.

IT'S OVER

Killed Areelu, killed Deskari (who again, went down like a bitch. Areelu was tougher and it was just her, Deskari had backup and was still a pushover lol), closed the Worldwound, all is well.

Obviously I didn't get the secret ending, but I think the ending I got wrapped everything up in a nice way.

I put my invitation to Heaven on hold to rule Drezen with an iron fist, I mean, guide the people some more.

Looks like Queen Galfrey is on her way out, people want a new ruler now but she doesn't want to give it up.

I freed the angels from the wardstones since they aren't needed anymore.

Ember actually reached out to Nocticula and she became the Redeemer Queen and joined Elysium, but Alushinyrra fell into chaos. Oh well. Deskari is dead for good, his followers went to his Popszuzu. Forgot already what happened to Baphomet. Think he just stayed grouchy doing nothing for eternity.

Irabeth and Anevia settled down.

Speaking of Ember, she joined her merry band of followers to preach around the world and stuff.

I didn't find all the Elven notes so the Storyteller continues to wander.

Nenio fucked off and forgot me because I didn't do her stupid puzzle quest.

Daeran returned home to do Daeran things. He, Woljif and I still hang out around the city. Just me, my husband and our idiot son <3

Speaking of Woljif, he's seen as a hero now and is glad he didn't take his granddaddy's deal.

Lann traveled the world to do heroic things, but first thing he did was go home to his mother and spend time with her.

Regill succumbed to the Bleaching but got reinstated with the Hellknights and was buried with honors.

Sosiel returned home, fell in love with a dude and lived happily ever after.

Aru got a house and became some village sage. Seelah stayed with her for a time. Seelah's ending was kinda weird, it said she didn't fully trust herself still but I don't know what I missed.

Hulrun learned to chill and serves in Kenabres.

Greybor retired from the assassin life and went back to his family and helped his daughter become a warrior.

And it turns out the entire game was told by Areelu Vorlesh in front of Pharasma. I intervened on her behalf and Phara sent Areelu to Maelstrom to...think about what she did, I guess. I think I did take pity on her in the end.

The End

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAmRoq78xms

All in all, I enjoyed the game a lot. Act 2 and Act 3 were the highlights for me. Act 4 was a bit of a downturn, the city only setting kinda got old after a while, but it picked up in Act 5. Threshold was kind of a bullshit final dungeon tbh, they just threw high AC enemies at you one after the other, no real strategy other than "power through it." But eh, games usually sputter toward the endgame content anyway, so it isn't alone in that regard.

I remember how intimidated I was at the beginning of this game lol. Proud I stuck with it.

Now to decide the next character. I know you all say Lich, but I'm really curious about Trickster. After being an orderly angel, I want to try dancing with a little chaos, you know? Don't know what race I'll be yet. Will try and go for the secret ending this time.

Ivynn posted...

All in all, I enjoyed the game a lot. Act 2 and Act 3 were the highlights for me. Act 4 was a bit of a downturn, the city only setting kinda got old after a while, but it picked up in Act 5. Threshold was kind of a bullshit final dungeon tbh, they just threw high AC enemies at you one after the other, no real strategy other than "power through it." But eh, games usually sputter toward the endgame content anyway, so it isn't alone in that regard.

I remember how intimidated I was at the beginning of this game lol. Proud I stuck with it.

Now to decide the next character. I know you all say Lich, but I'm really curious about Trickster. After being an orderly angel, I want to try dancing with a little chaos, you know? Don't know what race I'll be yet. Will try and go for the secret ending this time.

The reason why Lich is so popular is because it's such a nice but rare option.

But that doesn't mean that you should not go for trickster or Azata or whatever you want.

There's really only one downside to Trickster, and some might consider it an upside.

Regill hates it.

Regill hates the Trickster path so much.

DrizztLink posted...

There's really only one downside to Trickster, and some might consider it an upside.

Regill hates it.

Regill hates the Trickster path so much.

Regill is probably the only companion were I was always motivated to see all his reactions.

Doesn't matter if it's some nod of respect, or pure disgust bordering to despair on his face seemingly made of stone.

Being mean to Amber was impossible for me, being mean to Regill is something that is entertaining.