Current Events > If Gohan went Super Sayian on Namek, could he have defeated ___?(DBZ spoilers)

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Freeza

Say Freeza kills Krillin but in this timeline, Goku was like "Aww :("

And it's Gohan who snaps, exploding with grief and rage he instantly fulfills the legend and becomes the legendary Super Sayian

Would he be strong enough there to kill Freeza or would Freeza eat his lunch? Guru did unlock his potential after all.

Goku was a lot stronger than him before going SS BUT he allowed Freeza to power up. I don't know if Gohan would do that

And yes Gohan did that to Cell but he was going through puberty then and Krillin hadn't died.

Pissed Gohan is OP so yeah I think he'd take frieza

At that part of the story, I think a SSJ is going to beat Freeza. Power levels be damned. If you go SSJ, youre stronger than whatever Freeza is at.

Like Unfair and Dreepapult said, pissed Gohan would have killed Freeza dead because he wouldn't have let him power up to full power. He'd just end his ass.

The_Popo posted...

At that part of the story, I think a SSJ is going to beat Freeza. Power levels be damned. If you go SSJ, youre stronger than whatever Freeza is at.

Yeah, the point of SSJ was that no matter how strong Frieza arrogantly was and no matter how strong they showed him to be compared to everybody else, he looked like an absolute baby to Goku once he went SSJ.

The point is that it's the mode that defeated Frieza, as we also see that in how it haunts him later when he meets Trunks and flips out on the eyes and hair.

I'm sure that Goku as SSJ is stronger, however Gohan also has the rage benefit enhancing his strength which goes back all the way to him headbutting a hole in Radditz's armor after he became stronger than both Piccolo & Goku through his rage.

Yazarogi posted...

Like Unfair and Dreepapult said, pissed Gohan would have killed Freeza dead because he wouldn't have let him power up to full power. He'd just end his ass.

What? Didnt a pissed off Gohan allow Cell to kill Goku? He toyed with Cell instead of finishing him immediately.

BroodRyu posted...

What? Didnt a pissed off Gohan allow Cell to kill Goku?

No, Goku sacrificed himself because Cell was about to blow up the planet and Gohan was helpless to stop him. Since Goku was the only one who knew how to use Instant Transmission, he warped Cell away to explode somewhere else because it was the only option.

TMOG posted...

No, Goku sacrificed himself because Cell was about to blow up the planet and Gohan was helpless to stop him. Since Goku was the only one who knew how to use Instant Transmission, he warped Cell away to explode somewhere else because it was the only option.

Yeah, but Gohan could have killed Cell at almost any point after he got pissed and unlocked SSJ2. Instead he chose to toy with Cell and make him suffer, which lead to Goku having to sacrifice himself.

No. Yes, Goku mauled Frieza, but Gohan isn't anywhere close to Goku at that point

BroodRyu posted...

What? Didnt a pissed off Gohan allow Cell to kill Goku? He toyed with Cell instead of finishing him immediately.

He did, however that was also the first time anybody had gone SSGJ2 and he saw how much the difference in power made Cell look like a baby in comparison, and unfortunately his Saiyan genetic arrogance and overconfidence in his power as being the only person to achieve that level took over.

He wasn't like that as a regular SSJ from what I can remember.

But in reality, all entertainment suffers from characters never taking their jobs seriously, both the good guys and the bad guys have plotlines necessitating upon this.

The most noticeable category is Bond villains. They could easily just shoot him in the head and be done with it, but then James Bond would be dead, and can't have that, so instead we give them some ridiculous self-fellatiating speech that allows Bond time to break out of their predicament, kill them, and crush their sometimes life-long ambition.

But nah, that speech totally more important than making sure your plans and dreams aren't thwarted.

He'd still end up a nerd, though.

Gohans (angry)base was stronger then Gokus I think.

Goku could only(sorta) hang with Freiza by using Kaioken.

Sure.

BS that he didn't go SS then. He literally went SS from remembering the events in Namek.

LordFarquad1312 posted...

BS that he didn't go SS then. He literally went SS from remembering the events in Namek.

Give him a break, he was literally 5 years old

I'm not so sure he would. It would have made Final really strong, but at that point in the story, he was 5. I don't know if he'd have it in him

I honestly don't know. The difference between Gohan and Goku back then was huge. He'd have a shot if it ended it before Frieza powered up though.

Jupiter posted...

I honestly don't know. The difference between Gohan and Goku back then was huge. He'd have a shot if it ended it before Frieza powered up though.

Nah, Gohan's always been the "get as strong as needed for no reason" character. If he'd gone SS, he would've taken Frieza.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Give him a break, he was literally 5 years old

but then theres trunks and goten

No, I think he would lose. Goku at that point had decade+ of actual training and combat and adventuring. Gohan has none of the real skill behind him and would probably end up losing SSJ and not able to get it back after his anger subsided.

if you take power levels, literally, hed probably be somewhere above the third form, but well below the fourth form. Even without that, he was definitely extraordinarily weaker than Goku, so little chance hed be strong enough to do anything of significance.

Wasn't Gohan like five years old on Namek?

I think Gohan would find a way to lose. Weren't Frieza's destructo discs capable of cutting Goku in half? Goku is just better at winning fights than Gohan is. Frieza could have outsmarted him.

No, he would get wiped. His power level is too low so the 50x flat increase you get would not be enough to put him above Final Form serious Frieza.

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Weren't Frieza's destructo discs capable of cutting Goku in half?

What are you basing this off of? Goku never got disc'd, he made Frieza cut himself up with his own discs, which just proves that his discs as strong as Krillin as Krillin cut up his tail with a disc.

Kradek posted...

What are you basing this off of? Goku never got disc'd, he made Frieza cut himself up with his own discs, which just proves that his discs as strong as Krillin as Krillin cut up his tail with a disc.

If Goku got caught he def would've been sliced in half.

Kradek posted...

What are you basing this off of? Goku never got disc'd, he made Frieza cut himself up with his own discs, which just proves that his discs as strong as Krillin as Krillin cut up his tail with a disc.

What? What reason would you have to believe that they wouldn't be able cut Goku in half? Super Saiyan made him stronger than Frieza, but his body could still be hurt.

The_Popo posted...

At that part of the story, I think a SSJ is going to beat Freeza. Power levels be damned. If you go SSJ, youre stronger than whatever Freeza is at.

This is how I've always viewed it. Super saiyan is essentially Freeza's kryptonite.

Technically no not with his PL on namek. The story was made for a SSJ to defeat Frieza though so yes if it was written for Gohan to be the one to go SSJ then he would win.

luigi33 posted...

If Goku got caught he def would've been sliced in half.

NoxObscuras posted...

What? What reason would you have to believe that they wouldn't be able cut Goku in half? Super Saiyan made him stronger than Frieza, but his body could still be hurt.

Y'all are missing my point. Yeah, Frieza's discs likely could have cut Goku in half, because destructo disc is actually a pretty strong and useful move, but they acted like it was "proven" to work against Goku as if he had a limb cut off by it.

Also, fuck it, I dunno, maybe SSJ can catch discs? We have no proof they can't, I'm just saying that the only proof we have in regards to Frieza's discs is that they're at least as strong as Krillin's because Krillin cut off part of his tail and Friza sliced himself up with his own. That's actually not proof it would work against SSJ Goku considering their difference in power level, however I also don't think you get invincible skin as a result, once again, just pointing out they were presenting proof of nothing.

Unlike Goku Gohan wouldn't have let Frieza power up to 100% (when he got pissed at that age he didn't get cocky, that cockyness didn't come until the Cell Saga), so yes Gohan likely would have wrecked Frieza if he could have gone SSJ at that time.

BroodRyu posted...

What? Didnt a pissed off Gohan allow Cell to kill Goku? He toyed with Cell instead of finishing him immediately.

to be fair, literally everyone had a chance to kill Cell in that saga and basically everyone fucked it up... Piccolo, Krillen, Vegeta, Trunks, Goku... the one who fucked it up the least was Gohan.

Nah, he would have been strong, but I think experience would have been key. Gohan was getting mollywhoppd by the Ginyu Force. Ginyu Force was playing with their food.

Slaya4 posted...

Nah, he would have been strong, but I think experience would have been key. Gohan was getting mollywhoppd by the Ginyu Force. Ginyu Force was playing with their food.

So was Vegeta.

Gohan jumps tiers when he gets mad, especially once he gets mad and goes super saiyan. He'd easily be able to mop up Frieza.