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McSame_as_Bush 08/29/23 7:21:02 PM #1: |
When wildfires destroyed Lahaina on Aug. 8, Miranda Boam lost both of her jobs, her favorite hangout spots and the town she adores. https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/these-maui-tenants-didnt-lose-their-homes-in-the-fire-but-theyre-still-being-displaced/ God forbid the landlords let their families share their own home. Better to make a bunch of people homeless. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/29/23 7:30:28 PM #2: |
How many apartments does that landlord's sister and her two dogs need?
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DrizztLink 08/29/23 7:37:17 PM #3: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
many coming from landlords who say they need their properties back to house family members whose homes were destroyed in the fires.Horseshit. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ProfessorKukui 08/29/23 7:42:52 PM #4: |
landlords looking to cash in with the corpos
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 12:06:06 PM #5: |
bump
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Questionmarktarius 08/30/23 12:07:05 PM #6: |
A 45-day notice sent to a renter on a month-to-month lease isnt technically an eviction. And tenants do have some recourse. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Avirosb 08/30/23 12:08:05 PM #7: |
Occupy that space.
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TaylorHeinicke 08/30/23 12:10:21 PM #8: |
between the realtors trying to undercut these people who lost their homes by buying the land for cheap and shit like this, you'd think over 100 people dying would be a wake up call to the insanity that is capitalist real estate.
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Vyrulisse 08/30/23 12:11:41 PM #9: |
It's like vultures swooping in. Seems like everyone is trying to claim that land even the Government there.
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Questionmarktarius 08/30/23 12:12:30 PM #10: |
TaylorHeinicke posted... you'd think over 100 people dying would be a wake up call to the insanity that is capitalist real estate."Let's make everyone tenants!" doesn't seem like a useful answer. All that changes is that the "landlord" can directly send you to jail. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 12:19:55 PM #11: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/9/AASbx8AAEy_f.jpg
Is there a point you're trying to make? --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 12:27:54 PM #12: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Is there a point you're trying to make? The point is that this is common practice, and (as long as they are actually using it for personal use) not against the law. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 12:29:18 PM #13: |
bigblu89 posted...
The point is that this is common practice, and (as long as they are actually using it for personal use) not against the law. Yes, the article made clear that this is legal. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 08/30/23 12:31:08 PM #14: |
Landlords are trying to take advantage of the situation and use any excuse possible so that later they can raise rent for new tenants. It has nothing to do with family. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TaylorHeinicke 08/30/23 12:41:02 PM #15: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
"Let's make everyone tenants!" doesn't seem like a useful answer.wat --- St. Louis Battlehawks (7-3) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 12:57:52 PM #16: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Yes, the article made clear that this is legal. So then no one is getting "kicked out" like your topic title suggests. It's in the contract. Listen, I understand that "Landlords are the Devil" but there's a hundred other examples of why they are. This isn't one* *Assuming the apartments are being legally used to house family members, like the article suggests. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 08/30/23 1:02:56 PM #17: |
"Yeah, my family lost their home, so I need you to get the fuck out of my property so they can live there instead. Kthx bye!"
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Nemu 08/30/23 1:06:54 PM #18: |
Are there any provisions to things like this like "cannot rent for X months" or "must prove occupancy for X months?" It's completely fair that you should be able to use your own property for more important things, but it'd be shitty if it can be abused to just sell it for high profit to land developers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 1:24:50 PM #19: |
bigblu89 posted...
So then no one is getting "kicked out" like your topic title suggests. It's in the contract. Lol I'm not going to get into an argument over semantics. They are being made to leave their home. Yes, it's legal. Most of the terrible things that landlords do are legal. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 1:33:49 PM #20: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Lol I'm not going to get into an argument over semantics. They are being made to leave their home. Yes, it's legal. Most of the terrible things that landlords do are legal. But you're making it sound like they're being forced to leave so the landlord can hike up the rent and rent to a new person. Let's say you're on a monthly rental basis and your landlord says they they aren't renewing your lease because their son is graduating college and will be using the apartment while he save up for his own place. You're not getting "kicked out", you're just not having your rental agreement renewed. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cephalopods 08/30/23 1:34:57 PM #21: |
Renters really need more rights & protection in the US. This is horrible ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 08/30/23 1:35:22 PM #22: |
bigblu89 posted... You're not getting "kicked out", you're just not having your rental agreement renewed.It's like we've all forgotten that a contract has two parties involved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 1:41:43 PM #23: |
bigblu89 posted...
But you're making it sound like they're being forced to leave so the landlord can hike up the rent and rent to a new person. Whatever you want to call it, the result is the same. At no point did I say that something illegal was taking place. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 08/30/23 1:42:41 PM #24: |
As long as they give reasonable notice a landlord should be able to end a rental contract for whatever legal reason they want to. People who lose their residence because of this, especially when they have a statement from the landlord saying that they are being kicked out for somebody displaced from the fire to move in, should absolutely be eligible for any displacement assistance that people whos residence burned down are. They are losing their home because of the fire, period. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 1:46:19 PM #25: |
Tenlaar posted...
As long as they give reasonable notice a landlord should be able to end a rental contract for whatever legal reason they want to. What about during COVID pre-vaccines? --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 1:48:44 PM #26: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Whatever you want to call it, the result is the same. At no point did I say that something illegal was taking place. The closing statement in your OP along with how defensive you got when people pointed that that it was totally legal gives the impression that this was posted as something more than just a topic of information. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 1:51:14 PM #27: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
What about during COVID pre-vaccines? Looks like it was the same issue. Is there any proof that those residents during Covid were replaced by new renters paying a higher rent? --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 1:54:15 PM #28: |
bigblu89 posted...
The closing statement in your OP along with how defensive you got when people pointed that that it was totally legal gives the impression that this was posted as something more than just a topic of information. Yes, I offered my opinion on the morality of making people homeless instead of having your sister sleep on a futon. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 1:57:00 PM #29: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Yes, I offered my opinion on the morality of making people homeless instead of having your sister sleep on a futon. But you're doing it based on assumptions that only one person was displaced. What if it's a sister, their husband, and their 4 kids. Along with their other sister that lived next door to them, along with her family? You're making a lot of assumptions just to try to make the statement that landlords are scum, where there are a dozen of other examples that would've made the same point and have actual proof. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 1:57:21 PM #30: |
bigblu89 posted...
Looks like it was the same issue. Is there any proof that those residents during Covid were replaced by new renters paying a higher rent? There was a COVID eviction moratorium. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 2:00:17 PM #31: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
There was a COVID eviction moratorium. Rereading the article, I understand that. And that's an example of bad practices by a landlord. At this point, there's no proof of that happening now. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McSame_as_Bush 08/30/23 2:04:46 PM #32: |
bigblu89 posted...
Rereading the article, I understand that. No, that's an example of the government passing a law to protect the health and welfare of tenants. It impacted good landlords and bad landlords. Hawaii could take a similar action in this circumstance. --- not a lot, just forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 2:07:20 PM #33: |
McSame_as_Bush posted...
No, that's an example of the government passing a law to protect the health and welfare of tenants. It impacted good landlords and bad landlords. Hawaii could take a similar action in this circumstance. Possibly. My assumption is it would be based on how many people were displaced --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 08/30/23 2:35:36 PM #34: |
This is wrong, period. Landlords should not be able to force people out just because they want to use the property differently, even if it's for family members. The leases should be honored. Even if they are legally able to do so, it is outright evil.
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Questionmarktarius 08/30/23 2:37:55 PM #35: |
DarkChozoGhost posted... The leases should be honored.these are month-by-month "leases". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 08/30/23 2:43:35 PM #36: |
Strider102 posted...
"Yeah, my family lost their home, so I need you to get the fuck out of my property so they can live there instead. Kthx bye!"Is it really so bad that a landlord may want to provide for their family of they have the means? Sure, the current occupants are screwed but it's not like the property is being listed as vacant so they can charge for higher rent. The homes are going to someone else that also lost everything in a fire. It's not an ideal situation for anybody, but sometimes you need to make tough decisions in a crisis. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gritty 08/30/23 2:55:03 PM #37: |
This shit is why people want laws against landlords or the ability to strongly regulate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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punkfanalways 08/30/23 2:57:22 PM #38: |
We literally have people saying because it's legal it's not wrong. As if the law exists to protect anyone other than those with capital. There's a reason why the fire service is free and healthcare isn't. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 08/30/23 2:58:16 PM #39: |
McSame_as_Bush posted... What about during COVID pre-vaccines?Do you mean during the eviction moratoriums? Because that would fall under for whatever legal reason. Evicting people during the moratorium would not be legal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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punkfanalways 08/30/23 2:58:23 PM #40: |
A_Good_Boy posted... Is it really so bad that a landlord may want to provide for their family of they have the means? Sure, the current occupants are screwed but it's not like the property is being listed as vacant so they can charge for higher rent. The homes are going to someone else that also lost everything in a fire. It's not an ideal situation for anybody, but sometimes you need to make tough decisions in a crisis. This is assuming the landlords are acting in good faith. I'm sure some of them are and for those I have no issues. For those that are using this as an excuse to make more money off a bad situation... fuck them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 3:07:44 PM #41: |
punkfanalways posted...
We literally have people saying because it's legal it's not wrong. As if the law exists to protect anyone other than those with capital. There's a reason why the fire service is free and healthcare isn't. No, we're having people say if it's legal AND they are not using this for nefarious means, it's not wrong. You literally said it yourself: assuming the landlords are acting in good faith. I'm sure some of them are and for those I have no issues. For those that are using this as an excuse to make more money off a bad situation... fuck them. I have yet to read anyone in this thread that has said otherwise. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 08/30/23 3:19:10 PM #42: |
bigblu89 posted...
So then no one is getting "kicked out" like your topic title suggests. It's in the contract. you're absolutely being kicked out even if its legal. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 08/30/23 3:19:50 PM #43: |
bigblu89 posted...
I have yet to read anyone in this thread that has said otherwise.Otherwise. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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punkfanalways 08/30/23 3:20:11 PM #44: |
bigblu89 posted... No, we're having people say if it's legal AND they are not using this for nefarious means, it's not wrong. k ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 08/30/23 3:25:47 PM #45: |
DrizztLink posted...
Otherwise.Touche' --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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flussence 08/30/23 4:08:10 PM #46: |
Does the landlord actually own the land or did they roll up in a cruise ship one day and take it to sell it back?
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