Current Events > Woman lied to CPS about ex's abuse to kids after breakup

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https://x.com/nojumper/status/1698040855431631264?s=46&t=o6tIkkSBRz2o_KdlCGVq5A

And stuff like this is exactly why being X in 2023 is a massive disadvantage. You can get accused of something, lose or become close to losing everything you have. While the other gets no repercussions. and then society praises the person for commiting this action.

Crow0000 posted...

And stuff like this is exactly why being X in 2023 is a massive disadvantage. You can get accused of something, lose everything you have. While the other gets no repercussions.

Being X.com ?

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Tc or 2nd poster?

WingsOfGood posted...

Tc or 2nd poster?

I dont think I can be classified as an incel

Conflict hurls out insults, yet fails to realize the fact that a man almost got his life ruined from one of the worst accusations you can get.

And the sad part is, no justice will be done. The person in the video will get off scot free forever. Plenty of men become scared or trust people less because of people in the OP who will go out of their way to hurt someone.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66531409

Dozens of children have been forced into contact with fathers accused of abuse, a study has found.
In some cases in the research, revealed for the first time by the BBC, the fathers were convicted paedophiles.
In all cases, fathers had used a disputed concept in court known as "parental alienation".
Separately, the same concept has been cited in the deaths of women after family courts allowed fathers accused of abuse to apply for contact.

Why are people complaining about incels in this topic about a women calling CPS on innocent person ?

cjsdowg posted...

Why are people complaining about incels in this topic about a women calling CPS on innocent person ?

I believe conflict is saying 2nd poster is a troll dont respond to him. But I dont know him so I cant verify if hes a troll

ai123 posted...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66531409

Dozens of children have been forced into contact with fathers accused of abuse, a study has found.
In some cases in the research, revealed for the first time by the BBC, the fathers were convicted paedophiles.
In all cases, fathers had used a disputed concept in court known as "parental alienation".
Separately, the same concept has been cited in the deaths of women after family courts allowed fathers accused of abuse to apply for contact.

While that may be a for those specific incidents, let's stop acting like every single accusation of a woman accusing a man is without a doubt true.

Cases where men are false accused of things do actually happen.

You can get your entire life RUINED from an accusation

https://twitter.com/GreedyB45t3rd/status/1698429945364853183

This is why people change their outlook on things and why society is failing. The mere accusation of an innocent person destroys lives. It's no longer possible to be a father now. At this point, it's a risk to even be in a relationship if someone can get angry and turn your life upside down.

Crow0000 posted...

You can get your entire life RUINED from an accusation

https://twitter.com/GreedyB45t3rd/status/1698429945364853183

This is why people change their outlook on things and why society is failing. The mere accusation of an innocent person destroys lives. It's no longer possible to be a father now. At this point, it's a risk to even be in a relationship if someone can get angry and turn your life upside down.

This is bullshit. You can absolutely get in trouble for filing a fake report, whether criminally or civilly, depending on the state.

cjsdowg posted...

Why are people complaining about incels in this topic about a women calling CPS on innocent person ?

Because fringe cases are amplified to push an incel/MGTOW agenda.

You know, like how a tiny fraction of a percentage of women say they want 'the three sixes', and this is talked up to suggest women are shallow/make unrealistic demands.

In post #2, one of the usual suspects uses this rare and extreme case of injustice as a jumping off point for their 'men are victims of the system', 'evil women are protected' agenda.

How many cases of genuine abuse are not acted on, with tragic results? How many rapes are not prosecuted at all?

The person in the OP will never get in trouble. This individual will be able to skate through life and avoid any criminal charges or jail time. The fact that they are able to say this outright ON VIDEO and not even get pushback from the other people in the room is proof of this. This is the reality of the world.

Tbh, I dont really know if theres a punishment for false CPS reports. I go to a lot of welfare checks and nothing ever happens. Its really common I see an ex spouse will accuse the other of doing drugs in front their kids, beating them, no food. I go in there and the kid is always doing great

Nothing is done when someone gets falsely accused and is proven to be innocent.

StealThisSheen posted...

This is bullshit. You can absolutely get in trouble for filing a fake report, whether criminally or civilly, depending on the state.

If we are talking about getting someone in trouble through false accusations, history definitely proves that wrong.

For example, plenty of black people have had the book thrown at them based on false accusation and circumstantial evidence.

On top of that, for many even IF the accusation proves to be false, the accusation alone is enough to ruin someone's life.

Doesn't matter if it's murder, pedophilia, rape, murder, whatever. An accusation, along with having to deal with clearing your name is enough to royally screw over someone's life in more ways than one.

Conflict posted...

I'm gonna need y'all to not feed the notorious incel redpill troll. The topic just begun so it should be easy for everyone to follow those directions.

What does incel or red pill have to do with a guy being mad about someone lying about spousal abuse? This is why they're falling into nonsensical buzzword tier.

How am I NOT mad about an innocent individual almost losing his kids due to some evil monster? Who STILL wont face any repercussions?

Crow0000 posted...

Nothing is done when someone gets falsely accused and is proven to be innocent.

This is a lie.

There are many cases of women prosecuted for false reports. Including some who were pressured into withdrawing accusations that turned out to be true.

ai123 posted...

Because fringe cases are amplified to push an incel/MGTOW agenda.

It's attitudes like that is why there's such a stigma for men to ever come forward on certain things like domestic abuse, rape, and any other thing that could make them a victim.

There seems to be this attitude that woman are all damsels, angels and victims....while men are all predators, evil, violent beasts to woman. To even suggest a woman could have victimized a man has certain people jumping to bat to deflect, brush it off, or blow it off entirely.

ai123 posted...

This is a lie.

There are many cases of women prosecuted for false reports. Including some who were pressured into withdrawing accusations that turned out to be true.

There's also many that arent.

asdf8562 posted...

While that may be a for those specific incidents, let's stop acting like every single accusation of a woman accusing a man is without a doubt true.

Cases where men are falsely accused of things by a woman, do actually happen.

They do.

They are also far more rare than failure to prosecute cases of actual sexual assault.

Funny how the cases I cited are merely 'specific instances', while this one case in the OP is somehow meant to be seen as emblematic of the widespread victimisation of men.

asdf8562 posted...

It's attitudes like that is why there's such a stigma for men to ever come forward on certain things like domestic abuse, rape, and any other thing that could make them a victim.
There seems to be this attitude that woman are all damsels, angels and victims....while men are all predators, evil, violent beasts to woman. To even suggest a woman could have victimized a man has certain people jumping to bat to deflect, brush it off, or blow it off entirely.

The people making generalisations are the ones looking at this case and extrapolating it into a whole narrative of victimisation.

Instead of treating it as one case.

Holding people accountable for their actions is dangerous? is this seriously your logic, conflict?

ai123 posted...

The people making generalisations are the ones looking at this case and extrapolating it into a whole narrative of victimisation.

Instead of treating it as one case.

its not just one case. it's many.

Guys you're doing it.

Crow0000 posted...

This is why people change their outlook on things and why society is failing. The mere accusation of an innocent person destroys lives. It's no longer possible to be a father now. At this point, it's a risk to even be in a relationship if someone can get angry and turn your life upside down.

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ai123 posted...

They do.

They are also far more rare than failure to prosecute cases of actual sexual assault.

Funny how the cases I cited are merely 'specific instances', while this one case in the OP is somehow meant to be seen as emblematic of the widespread victimisation of men.

The problem is more widespread than you care to recognize.

People like you just blow most of it off.

False accusations of rape are nothing new.
False accusations of abuse are also nothing new.

The accusation alone is enough to ruin a life, assuming you don't go down legally. False accusations don't all go punished.

When it comes to even talking about it, people like you are very quick to either blow it off or deflect. As if that somehow is a counter.

Heineken14 posted...

https://imgur.com/RffLxxD.gif

A person almost loses his kids forever due to a false accusation, and you decide to make a joke about it. While also failing to hold the false accuser accountable for their actions.

another case of problems with society and people being downplayed or laughed at

Conflict, do you know whats harmful to men? Putting out false accusations to someone which can prevent them from being fathers, and then downplaying the accusation by bringing up someone watching fresh and fit.

You're the one doing harm by not addressing the overall problem and by downplaying the false accusation.

asdf8562 posted...

The problem is more widespread than you care to recognize.

People like you just blow most of it off.

False accusations of rape are nothing new.
False accusations of abuse are also nothing new.

The accusation alone is enough to ruin a life, assuming you don't go down legally. False accusations don't all go punished.

When it comes to even talking about it, people like you are very quick to either blow it off or deflect. As if that somehow is a counter.

I would like every abuse allegation to be investigated.

For every malicious accusation, and every incident of actual abuse to be prosecuted.

Because only a tiny percentage of the latter are.

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I'm honestly ignoring him. Also for the record, I dont agree with any narrative that woman are vixens or that men shouldn't seek relationships with woman or avoid fatherhood. Or whatever hes pushing. I just want to make that clear.

What I do care about is blowing off the idea that a man can be victimized by a woman. Or the by default responses of blowing off any story that has the sheer audacity of pointing out a woman doing something to a man should by default be blown off because <insert reasons>. As if woman are all angels, and that this doesn't happen more often than some here care to either recognize or admit.

False accusations do happen more often than some here care to recognize.
False accusations even IF investigated, the accusation alone is enough to ruin a life.
The false accusers do NOT always get punished.

Should males be Y and not called X?

ai123 posted...

Because fringe cases are amplified to push an incel/MGTOW agenda.

You know, like how a tiny fraction of a percentage of women say they want 'the three sixes', and this is talked up to suggest women are shallow/make unrealistic demands.

In post #2, one of the usual suspects uses this rare and extreme case of injustice as a jumping off point for their 'men are victims of the system', 'evil women are protected' agenda.

How many cases of genuine abuse are not acted on, with tragic results? How many rapes are not prosecuted at all?

Two things can be true at the same time. Women can be messed over by the system as well. For example you bring up Rapes not being prosecuted. You know many people who are victims of a SA are in fact men?

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There's definitely someone here blowing it off.

Not saying it's you, but there's definitely someone here blowing it off or rather deflecting.

cjsdowg posted...

Two things can be true at the same time. Women can be messed over by the system as well. For example you bring up Rapes not being prosecuted. You know many people who are victims of a SA are in fact men?

I deliberately did not specify women or men when I posted about abuse and rape not being acted upon.

You did specify.

asdf8562 posted...

There's definitely someone here blowing it off.

Not saying it's you, but there's definitely someone here blowing it off.

If I'm 'blowing it off', it is only as a counter to those who wish to blow it out of all proportion to serve their agenda.

I'll say it once more: I think that if malicious accusations are made, the accuser should be prosecuted. And that if substantiated accusations are made, then the abuser should be prosecuted.

My mom tried this when she left my dad. A CPS lady showed up like 3 months later because she had apparently told them he was beating my little brother and that we were living in a house full of holes in the floor. None of it was true so nothing came of it but it pissed all of us off pretty bad and me and my brother didnt talk to her for a couple years after that

ai123 posted...

If I'm 'blowing it off', it is only as a counter to those who wish to blow it out of all proportion to serve their agenda

The goto response shouldn't be thinking it's being blown out of proportion to serve an agenda. Or posting information that somehow counters a specific case of a man being victimized. As this kind of thing happens far more often than you realize it does.

Saying accusations should be investigated and false accusations should be prosecuted sounds nice. But in truth, the justice system most definitely doesn't do that for all victims of false accusations. Many false accusers of crimes go unpunished. Accusations alone are enough to ruin a person's life.Even investigations aren't what we want them to ideally be as many innocent people are found guilty to oopsie later be found innocent. So to downplay it as a fringe issue, is definitely blowing it off.

Also I think it's unfortunate this needs to be said, pointing out men are definitely victims of crimes perpetuated by woman does not in anyway mean crimes against woman perpetuated by men doesn't happen.

asdf8562 posted...

The goto response shouldn't be thinking it's being blown out of proportion to serve an agenda.

Crow's agenda should be obvious to you.

Or posting information that somehow counters a specific case of a man being victimized. As this kind of thing happens far more often than you realize it does.

That's a vague assertion resting on two assumptions.

Saying accusations should be investigated and false accusations should be prosecuted sounds nice. But in truth, the justice system most definitely doesn't do that for all victims of false accusations. Many false accusers of crimes go unpunished.

Yes, the system often fails to properly investigate and prosecute crime.

Accusations alone are enough to ruin a person's life.Even investigations aren't what we want them to ideally be as many innocent people are found guilty to oopsie later be found innocent. So to downplay it as a fringe issue, is definitely blowing it off.

Cases like the one in the OP are not typical. Posters like Crow use them as a jumping off point for his agenda

Also I think it's unfortunate this needs to be said, pointing out men are definitely victims of crimes perpetuated by woman does not in anyway mean crimes against woman perpetuated by men doesn't happen or any less important to discuss.

All victims deserve to have their cases investigated, and their abusers prosecuted.