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Hogwarts Legacy players have called the game a missed opportunity after seeing some of the features available and the success of RPGs like Starfield and Baldurs Gate 3.
Hogwarts Legacy was seriously tipped to be a Game of the Year contender ahead of release, as Harry Potter fans (and non-fans) alike had the chance to explore the famous wizarding school to a level they never have before.
While it was thoroughly enjoyed by its vast playerbase, in the months since launch there have been several complaints about certain aspects of the game, including accusing the devs straight up lying about some of the story content in the game.
As the year has progressed Hogwarts Legacy has started to lose its appeal to much of the playerbase as new games come out and the wizarding content runs dry, and many are now of the belief that the game may have fallen seriously short in comparison to some of the other RPGs that came out this year.
Hogwarts Legacy missing features?
Taking to Reddit to air their frustrations, Vegetable-Fox8 said that it made them sad to see the features in newer RPGs such as Starfield and Baldurs Gate 3.
In Starfield, you can choose different backstories and get different buffs, quests and items, they explained. Imagine you choose Hufflepuff and you get an edge in your dealings with magical creatures. Or imagine you choose Slytherin and you get a dark arts buff.
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They continued: In Baldurs Gate your choices matter, endings change and you can lock yourself out of some quests [and] If I actually had magic you can bet I would use it to Accio a teacup towards me and not to be murdering dozens of randos throughout the countryside.

Many players were in agreement and didnt hide their disdain for some of the gameplay. One even said: The gameplay, graphics and such were fine for the most part, but none of that excuses principal flaws like a terrible main story, no character development, or the fact that your choices make no impact in what is meant to be an RPG.
Others were more positive, explaining that the Hogwarts Legacy sequel could provide an opportunity for developers Portkey Games to expand their gameplay and provide an even grander experience for Hogwarts Legacy players.
Portkey will no doubt be looking at games such as Baldurs Gate and Starfield for inspiration and ways to improve their forthcoming titles, but whether that translates to a possible Hogwarts Legacy 2 remains to be seen.

Why did they make the followers in BG3 look so incredibly bland with that kind of character creator?

Umm what about totk why are they ignoring totk

Ffs was this game actually that good or was it just a victim of the culture wars?

article is just WB paying them to make their game no one cares about anymore talked about

these people aren't even real most likley

you fell for it tc

Ratchetrockon posted...

Umm what about totk why are they ignoring totk

It has a generic and simple narrative with little agency

Yeah Hogwarts is the biggest, blandest wasted opportunity ever. Would have been awesome if it was like Bully in Hogwarts, but it's just a completely generic open world game.

SimulationSwarm posted...

Ffs was this game actually that good or was it just a victim of the culture wars?

I played it, got stale pretty quick. Quicker than most open world style games. Shame because it had a shit ton of potential. The world they built was beautiful, just seemed very empty and one dimensional.

Maybe they should just play regular tabletop RPGs in which the only limit is their imagination.
Then they wouldn't have to worry about silly titles like Game of the Year.

SimulationSwarm posted...

Ffs was this game actually that good or was it just a victim of the culture wars?

From what I remember around launch, the few people that actually talked about the gameplay said it was at best a 6 or 7 out of 10 game that wouldn't have received anywhere near the amount of attention it did, good or bad, if it didn't have the Harry Potter branding.

The sales seemed to be primarily driven either by nostalgia or by people trying to counter-protest the people boycotting it.

It shouldnt have been a combat game. Though I understand its impossible for most devs to conceive of a game that isnt based around physical violence.

Open world games are openly detrimental to any attempt at a cohesive narrative.
Unless it's Star Control.

SimulationSwarm posted...

Ffs was this game actually that good or was it just a victim of the culture wars?

Consensus seems to be it was about as bland and boring as an open world game can be after the whole "omg open world Hogwarts" wears off.

Common Hogwash Leprosy L

Avirosb posted...

Maybe they should just play regular tabletop RPGs in which the only limit is their imagination.

Sadly not everyone is able to put together a regular group to play a TTRPG once a week, and this becomes even harder as adults because job schedules and other responsibilities don't always line up.

Also the books themselves can become pretty expensive, with core books often costing as much as a brand new video game themselves.

Avirosb posted...

Why did they make the followers in BG3 look so incredibly bland with that kind of character creator?

honestly i found bg3's character creator a little disappointing. no body or face sliders.

radical_rhino posted...

It shouldnt have been a combat game. Though I understand its impossible for most devs to conceive of a game that isnt based around physical violence.

Reminds me of Deadly Premonition, which was initially supposed to strictly be a game about solving a mystery, exploring the town, and talking to the characters, like an open world visual novel. But the publishers decided to meddle and insist on combat being included because "that's what sells", so the developer made the combat braindead easy as a form of protest -- you literally start with a pistol that has unlimited ammo, and most enemies move very slowly and die in one or two hits.

TMOG posted...

Also the books themselves can become pretty expensive, with core books often costing as much as a brand new video game themselves.

Eh, Calvinball it. Making up your own broken rules is part of the fun.
Imagination is free.

The game is like 9 months old. Why would they be surprised?

This is why sequels exist

Avirosb posted...

Eh, Calvinball it. Making up your own broken rules is part of the fun.
Imagination is free.

Agreed

That's why I love Paizo over Wizards of the Coast, btw. They support community-run sites that literally publish all the gameplay-related material for Starfinder and Pathfinder for free, and even provide them with those resources so they can update their sites on the same day as the book releases. The books are essentially there for quicker at-the-table reference, art, world lore, and as a means to directly support Paizo and keep them in business.

Onyx Path is also really good about making sure every book they write and release has a cheap PDF version available, but since they can only create physical copies via print-on-demand, their books are still pretty expensive, especially if you go for the premium paper that feels thicker and really makes the art pop -- some of them, like these ones, can even be double or triple the cost of any Paizo or WotC release.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/181754/Mage-the-Awakening-2nd-Edition?src=hottest_filtered
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/162759/Exalted-3rd-Edition?src=hottest_filtered

They also regularly put their PDFs on sale though, so even the expensive ones like above can be bought for about three or four bucks if you're patient enough.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

The game is like 9 months old. Why would they be surprised?

They honestly thought that because it was Harry Potter and sold a lot of copies due to controversy that nothing better was going to release for the rest of the year lol

https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/990080/charts/

Hogwarts Legacy was absolutely shit. One of the most dull, bland games I have ever played.

TMOG posted...

From what I remember around launch, the few people that actually talked about the gameplay said it was at best a 6 or 7 out of 10 game that wouldn't have received anywhere near the amount of attention it did, good or bad, if it didn't have the Harry Potter branding.

The sales seemed to be primarily driven either by nostalgia or by people trying to counter-protest the people boycotting it.

I remember early in the year before it came out how ugly and bland it looked. I just had no interest in it whatsoever.

TMOG posted...

Sadly not everyone is able to put together a regular group to play a TTRPG once a week, and this becomes even harder as adults because job schedules and other responsibilities don't always line up.

Also the books themselves can become pretty expensive, with core books often costing as much as a brand new video game themselves.

This is so true. I asked one of my friends just the other day if shed be interested in starting a DnD session and she said she cant be counted on to have a free night every week to play. And thats a huge bummer

Glob posted...

Hogwarts Legacy was absolutely shit. One of the most dull, bland games I have ever played.

I does take place in and around a school.

Avirosb posted...

I does take place in and around a school.

So does Bully, and yet that is a much better and interesting game.

Since when have licensed properties been benchmark setters? Not sure what they were expecting.

Avirosb posted...

Open world games are openly detrimental to any attempt at a cohesive narrative.
Unless it's Star Control.

Im sure it was a gentle mistake and you meant unless its Shadow of the Colossus (remake).

It's a bummer that the game they liked so much ended up being a retroactive dud, but they're more than welcome to pick up a new game with these new features. And frankly, I have less sympathy for them than even Diablo 4 fans whose game was actively fucked in the ass post-launch by the developers.

I don't know why a single Reddit thread about users feeling sad that other games are better than theirs is being presented as news.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

So does Bully, and yet that is a much better and interesting game.

Hmm maybe. I haven't been fortunate to play it or its many sequels.

Avirosb posted...

Hmm maybe. I haven't been fortunate to play it or its many sequels.

Many sequels?

Avirosb posted...

Hmm maybe. I haven't been fortunate to play it or its many sequels.

Ain't no sequel, it's one and done. You have a daily schedule, classes to go to (or skip), roam the surrounding city. Going to classes levels up certain aspects you can use, like chemistry means your throwables get upgrades. Stuff like that.

Hogwarts would have rocked if it did this, but it is just a painfully dull open world. Literally has the most generic everything you can think of aside from the titular castle and maybe Hogsmeade. Everything else is just woods and hamlets with generic open world nonsense.

They also massively fucked up that putting in Quidditch

why is this an article

Hogwarts Legacy being a 7/10 game coming from Avalanche Software is essentially a miracle.

But it pretty much starts and ends there. There's no point in lamenting about "missing features" that were never going to be included in the game in the first place.

mario2000 posted...

Hogwarts Legacy was seriously tipped to be a Game of the Year contender ahead of release

Lmao it looked like complete shit from the start

Smashingpmkns posted...

Lmao it looked like complete shit from the start

Doesn't mean anything. You only need one good review to put that GotY sticker on your box.

Did anyone really think it'd be GOTY?

Dreepapult posted...

Did anyone really think it'd be GOTY?

Nope

I thought it would be enjoyable (and it "mostly" was), but I knew that it would lack replayability which is pretty important for GOTY fluff.

Dreepapult posted...

Did anyone really think it'd be GOTY?

I think a lot of misguided people genuinely bought into the hype so yes.

Bio1590 posted...

I think a lot of misguided people genuinely bought into the hype so yes.

Speaking of buying into things, what this emotional investment in regards to GotY?

I just seems even more lame and tribal than cheering for a sports team.

Hogwarts should've also had the choice to have a silent protagonist. The way the male voice delivers some of the most basic lines is bad

Dreepapult posted...

Did anyone really think it'd be GOTY?

It was never going to be GOTY in a year that Zelda; Tears of the Kingdom was released. Not to mention that even before it came out, it was obviously going to be a difficult year to win with games like RE4 Remake, BG3, FF16, Spiderman 2, and Starfield coming out.

Hogwarts Legacy will be lucky to even get a top 4/5 nomination, let alone win it all.

I think Hogwarts Legacy is better than Starfield but let's be real, it's nowhere even close to the same league as BG3.

Enclave posted...

I think Hogwarts Legacy is better than Starfield but let's be real, it's nowhere even close to the same league as BG3.

Don't think flappy genitals would be well received in a game about minors.

BG3 >>> Hogwarts Legacy >> Starfield.

Starfield is mid atm, it needs mods.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/3/AARI02AAE0Od.jpg RECIEVE WHAT, TC????

Avirosb posted...

Don't think flappy genitals would be well received in a game about minors.

If you think all BG3 is is the genital options in character creation well that's a you problem.

You come across like that idiot that thinks all Starfield is is the pronoun options in its character creator.

Enclave posted...

If you think all BG3 is is the genital options in character creation well that's a you problem.

Yeah there's also bear sex