Board 8 > Reminder that Motoi Sakuraba is a hack.

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RikkuAlmighty
09/16/23 10:41:37 PM
#1:


He has one song.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/16/23 10:44:13 PM
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Naw, he has tons of great songs, it's just he tends to super repetitive with his main battle themes, which of course means it's the stuff you hear the most.

But when he's on point he's on fucking point.

Like, even with the stuff he cribs from himself, how can you hear this and say "this guy's a hack"?

https://youtu.be/MXl55tl_P_0?si=loO5NvQIpjDnO_s3


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Hbthebattle
09/16/23 10:45:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuFgUmYCS8E

sakuraba haters when they learn he did dark souls

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UF8
09/16/23 10:53:06 PM
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similarly shimomura also just does the exact same stuff too often nowadays especially on battle themes

it's unfortunate

there's like 100 songs in the new game she was on last month that all sound exactly like they came from radiant historia
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NBIceman
09/16/23 10:56:14 PM
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Sakuraba is great.

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NeatoAnAccount
09/16/23 10:56:54 PM
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what is this opinion

mario tennis and golden sun 1&2 are absolutely chock full of bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1svF7sR68

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql6bqF2JRXs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmcj9qST7JM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Gdske6FPk

UF8 posted...
similarly shimomura also just does the exact same stuff too often nowadays especially on battle themes

it's unfortunate

there's like 100 songs in the new game she was on last month that all sound exactly like they came from radiant historia


lol it's funny that you mention shimomura because like she and sakuraba are in the same place in my brain for some reason. like they're not similar at all but they live in neighboring brain cells

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LeonhartFour
09/16/23 10:58:10 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BFkUylkiLA

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BlueCrystalTear
09/16/23 11:36:26 PM
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Yeah if there's one thing I have to say about Sakuraba's Tales music in particular, most of the good shit was not done by Sakuraba. Abyss had Motoo Fujiwara do "Meaning of Birth" among other amazing ones, and the Go Shiina tracks on Zestiria's soundtrack were the best part of the game.

But he's done so much other stuff that by making this topic, you're pleading ignorance.

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paperwarior
09/16/23 11:45:34 PM
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It's not all of his work but some of it sounds like that thing you're thinking of.

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MacArrowny
09/17/23 12:08:44 AM
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Berseria has a bad soundtrack

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UshiromiyaEva
09/17/23 12:11:44 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
Berseria has a bad soundtrack

https://youtu.be/uvmKc2GmGYU?si=1AN_vV-UBkD_dgpx

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v_charon
09/17/23 12:14:45 AM
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This guy likes making bad topics.

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foolm0r0n
09/17/23 12:32:34 AM
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if it aint broke dont fix it

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NFUN
09/17/23 12:33:05 AM
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true

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Paratroopa1
09/17/23 12:35:22 AM
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That's not fair, Motoi Sakuraba has two songs: Rockin' jrpg battle theme w/ organ, and ~Master of the pan flute~
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RikkuAlmighty
09/17/23 12:44:40 AM
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v_charon posted...
This guy likes making the same song.


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Dels
09/17/23 12:50:03 AM
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RikkuAlmighty posted...
He has one song.

Interesting claim to make when the Baten Kaitos remaster just came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z38dY57VEZQ
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MacArrowny
09/17/23 12:55:52 AM
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For a more different Sakuraba I like Dry trail quite a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xA6kXWQAcY

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azuarc
09/17/23 9:24:41 AM
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1997 Sakuraba prog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ2wX2H1h1Q

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SilentSeph
09/17/23 9:55:05 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
For a more different Sakuraba I like Dry trail quite a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xA6kXWQAcY
Same here, I like a lot of his battle themes but his 'chill' themes are wonderful

https://youtu.be/L2drtjwPXgo?si=iV2aYsr0wpZzHzwj

https://youtu.be/m6V1NH67vQA?si=6SQtHPh5_DBcqJRp

https://youtu.be/Z01C-5kAyEI?si=GSYjcNgFEm1ywKXf

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Dels
09/17/23 12:53:07 PM
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oh i get it now, TC wanted to ask "what are some good sakuraba tracks outside of his standard battle theme type" and inflammatory statements get more clicks
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Xiahou_Shake
09/17/23 3:54:40 PM
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I would definitely argue Sakuraba isn't as impactful as he used to be, but like, look at the man's output. He's basically been in the composer slave mines for decades, that'd take the edge from anyone. And even with that said he still puts out some legit great stuff (Velvet's Theme) that make you stand up and take notice. Taking his whole career writ large he's absolutely one of the greats.

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azuarc
09/17/23 11:30:37 PM
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Dels posted...
oh i get it now, TC wanted to ask "what are some good sakuraba tracks outside of his standard battle theme type" and inflammatory statements get more clicks

I assumed that was the intent.

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Nanis23
09/18/23 11:17:56 AM
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I have no idea who that is

But if he did Golden Sun then he is 10/10

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Emeraldegg
09/18/23 12:13:26 PM
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You know what is overrated? Dahngrest theme. Every time vesperia comes up somewhere on the internet I see people gushing about it and I just don't get it.

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Arti
09/18/23 12:26:58 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
You know what is overrated? Dahngrest theme. Every time vesperia comes up somewhere on the internet I see people gushing about it and I just don't get it.
first, it's not sakuraba's track, and second, it's still very good

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UshiromiyaEva
09/18/23 12:28:56 PM
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Dahngrest Theme gets tons of praise because so much of the OST is incredibly mediocre that it comes out of nowhere.

It's like it's the first time you even notice Vesperia even has music.

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andylt
09/18/23 12:29:51 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
You know what is overrated? Dahngrest theme. Every time vesperia comes up somewhere on the internet I see people gushing about it and I just don't get it.
Dahngrest stands out more because most of Vesperia's soundtrack is unmemorable.

I like it tho. And the Yormgen theme, idk if Sakuraba did that.

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neonreaper
09/18/23 1:31:42 PM
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Hmm I thought Eternal Somata had a terrific soundtrack

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Emeraldegg
09/18/23 1:38:03 PM
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Yeah I mean I like dahngrest, I just think it's overrated. It's fine, but I wouldn't rate it above plenty of other dungeons/town themes in that game.

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Dels
09/18/23 1:50:55 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Dahngrest Theme gets tons of praise because so much of the OST is incredibly mediocre that it comes out of nowhere.

It's like it's the first time you even notice Vesperia even has music.

This was my exact experience lol. Didn't realize it was that common since I hear people praise Vesperia's soundtrack all the time. I think Vesperia started a trend in Tales where the sound effects were too loud (at default settings, i guess) because I could never hear the battle music enough to notice any of it.
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UshiromiyaEva
09/18/23 1:56:04 PM
#32:


Vesperia has a fantastic opening theme.

Dahngrest is good.

Fury Sparks is a banger.

That's basically it.


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rwlh
09/18/23 2:07:19 PM
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I've always liked this very obscure Sakuraba song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z-R3N5kQQk

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WhiteLens
09/18/23 2:19:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOvwtNo_guM

This legit sounds like a Golden Sun overworld theme.

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WazzupGenius00
09/18/23 2:36:48 PM
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Every time I see this topic title I keep imagining Tim Robinson saying it during that sitcom taping sketch on I Think You Should Leave

Motoi Sakuraba is a hack. Has one song.

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soneek
09/21/23 12:07:53 AM
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TC just wanted Sakuraba suggestions. Check out the Motoi Sakuraba Live channel on YouTube and you'll see fun stuff from his live performances. Dude really loves when he can play his stuff live, and he's great when given creative freedom.

Resonance of Fate is also an amazing soundtrack with 60s/70s style rock. For orchestral stuff, Eternal Sonata and Infinite Undiscovery are beautiful.

Phantasy Star Nova and Exist Archive are fun tri-Ace soundtracks from Vita times. There's a bunch, but you're missing out if you haven't seen it listened to any of his live performances.
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