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Smallville
09/20/23 7:37:05 AM
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It has been brought up a lot that the striking uaw workers are asking for a 32 hr work week

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Blo
09/20/23 7:37:34 AM
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I think it's good

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Kombucha
09/20/23 7:38:33 AM
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It should be the norm, yeah.

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PoopPotato
09/20/23 7:38:50 AM
#4:


Yes, please.

I do a 5-4-9 schedule, so I get every other Friday off.
35 hour week, then a 45 hour week.
Woukd be great to do 35 hours both weeks.

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BroodRyu
09/20/23 7:41:09 AM
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Just to clarify, does that mean you get paid the same as if you worked 40 hours a week?
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Smallville
09/20/23 7:51:48 AM
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BroodRyu posted...
Just to clarify, does that mean you get paid the same as if you worked 40 hours a week?
your opinion on it changes if you don't get the paid the same, right?

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BroodRyu
09/20/23 8:00:20 AM
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Smallville posted...
your opinion on it changes if you don't get the paid the same, right?
My opinion goes from in favor to indifferent.
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Vicious_Dios
09/20/23 8:02:06 AM
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Should be at least 50 hours a week.

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Raikuro
09/20/23 8:03:38 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Should be at least 50 hours a week.
You think people should stop getting overtime pay for hours 41-50?
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LSGW_Zephyra
09/20/23 8:03:44 AM
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It's been actively shown to be better then 40. Literally should be the standard whenever possible.

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Prismsblade
09/20/23 8:14:13 AM
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Great but not viable for most businesses outside of white collar. Nor the employees if theienpay decreases.

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Smallville
09/20/23 2:46:43 PM
#12:


Prismsblade posted...
Great but not viable for most businesses outside of white collar. Nor the employees if theienpay decreases.
Yeah i kinda agree with this

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Cocytus
09/20/23 2:48:37 PM
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Cool

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Gray_Areas
09/20/23 2:54:13 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Great but not viable for most businesses outside of white collar. Nor the employees if theienpay decreases.
Well the pay part is meant to be adjusted since 32 hours would then become the "full time" amount of hours. For most people advocating for this change, your wages are meant to pretty much stay the same as if you were still working the full 40 hours, but you only have to actually work 32 hours for that pay now.
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Accolon
09/20/23 2:54:24 PM
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My only issue is that all these improvements in productivity and automation only seem to benefit the people at the top.

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ironman2009
09/20/23 2:55:07 PM
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As long as I get paid my 40 hour pay I'm cool with it

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CyricZ
09/20/23 2:55:46 PM
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For.

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Naves7
09/20/23 3:04:05 PM
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i would even take an 8 hr pay cut for 32 hr work week, i can budget for it personally and would rather have the free time.
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pauIie
09/20/23 3:05:53 PM
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don't change the pay and i'm for it.

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Trumble
09/20/23 3:23:46 PM
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I've just switched to it, and it seems most of the people in the same role as me are doing the same. I'm a checkout supervisor at a grocery store; there's about 10 of us on the team and only three (one of whom is the manager) do 5 days instead of 4. One of those ones is actively seeking to drop to 4 days.

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modena
09/20/23 3:28:47 PM
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I would pay $100 a week to just work 3 days.

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Starks
09/20/23 3:30:38 PM
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Let's start with the 4 day work week and go from there.

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Tyranthraxus
09/20/23 3:33:03 PM
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Accolon posted...
My only issue is that all these improvements in productivity and automation only seem to benefit the people at the top.
More time off definitely benefits everyone else more

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AldousIsDead
09/20/23 3:40:29 PM
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Fine with me as long as nobody starts bitching at me for continuing to work 70+

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Trumble
09/20/23 3:43:19 PM
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AldousIsDead posted...
Fine with me as long as nobody starts bitching at me for continuing to work 70+
Sure, and you should be paid more proportionally too. But 32 hours (as four days) should be the starting point for full time.

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MagnusX
09/20/23 3:51:01 PM
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My union job is 70 hours over two weeks, or 35/week. It's great.

Vicious_Dios posted...
Should be at least 50 hours a week.
Jesus Christ do you have even a single sane opinion?
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Prismsblade
09/20/23 3:51:11 PM
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Gray_Areas posted...
Well the pay part is meant to be adjusted since 32 hours would then become the "full time" amount of hours. For most people advocating for this change, your wages are meant to pretty much stay the same as if you were still working the full 40 hours, but you only have to actually work 32 hours for that pay now.
You need to think about this from the businesses PoV. And there's no way this is sustainable for most of them to pay out the same wages for the same number of employees for less labor, production, sales, services and profit.

And this is just for ones that rely on 40hrs worth of labor. Ones that need 50, 60, or even 70hrs worth would suffer more so.

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Link_HT
09/20/23 3:51:36 PM
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Accolon posted...
My only issue is that all these improvements in productivity and automation only seem to benefit the people at the top.
Because they do. Productivity has increased waaaaay more than compensation.
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Priere
09/20/23 3:59:53 PM
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As long as you get all the benefits of a 40 hour week, and overtime starts on hour 33 i would support it.

If not, fuck that.

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Questionmarktarius
09/20/23 4:03:10 PM
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Make Wednesday a standard day off.
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Rharyx211
09/20/23 4:05:45 PM
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As long as the pay gets adjusted so I'm still making the same amount as the 40hr weeks, then yeah.

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CoyoteTheGreat
09/20/23 4:08:09 PM
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Kombucha posted...
It should be the norm, yeah.


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GeminiDeus
09/20/23 4:09:10 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Make Wednesday a standard day off.
Typically, this has been my work's slowest day in the receiving department for over a year.

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Gray_Areas
09/20/23 5:04:56 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
You need to think about this from the businesses PoV. And there's no way this is sustainable for most of them to pay out the same wages for the same number of employees for less labor, production, sales, services and profit.

And this is just for ones that rely on 40hrs worth of labor. Ones that need 50, 60, or even 70hrs worth would suffer more so.
Or maybe the businesses should think of it from the employees' point of view? Productivity and automation has increased significantly over the last few decades, but compensation hasn't kept up. Most of the benefits of that increased productivity are going to the businesses and not to the workers. There's no way the "infinite growth" model is sustainable anyway, and employees plenty often get to take the hit when those growth expectations aren't met. This is an idea to help balance that out.

People said the same kind of thing about the 5-day, 40-hour work week when the Fair Labor Standards Act was implemented in 1940, but no one bats an eye at that schedule now. It became the norm, and if a 32-hour work week was implemented, then that would eventually become the norm.
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Prestoff
09/20/23 5:07:01 PM
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My firm is thinking about doing that for the time we're not in tax/busy season. During tax/busy season you basically don't get any work done if you work 40hr weeks, let alone 32hrs. I average between 65-80hrs during tax/busy season.

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Xenogears15
09/20/23 5:13:51 PM
#37:


Whether it's a 4-day work week at 8 hours each, or a 5-day week at 7 hours each, I support it.

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modena
09/20/23 6:27:36 PM
#38:


modena posted...
I would pay $100 a week to just work 3 days.
Edit: I work 4-10s which has been the reason I've been there over 10yrs.


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thronedfire2
09/20/23 6:30:10 PM
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I'm sure it would work for some jobs, but not others

I don't think dropping salary people down to 32 hours from 40 could be viable but I guess it depends on the job. I'm salary and usually do 44-48 hours but I actually get paid for my time over 40, just not time and a half. unless it's some office job where you're done with your work for the week on wednesday and just shitpost on the internet for the other two days >_> I'd never be able to do my job effectively at only 32/week

I dunno why anyone hourly would want to drop down to 32 and I dunno if that could even work either. 20% raises across the board are never gonna happen, so everyone would just have to get 2nd jobs and that would make hiring even harder

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Prismsblade
09/20/23 6:41:43 PM
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Gray_Areas posted...
Or maybe the businesses should think of it from the employees' point of view? Productivity and automation has increased significantly over the last few decades, but compensation hasn't kept up. Most of the benefits of that increased productivity are going to the businesses and not to the workers. There's no way the "infinite growth" model is sustainable anyway, and employees plenty often get to take the hit when those growth expectations aren't met. This is an idea to help balance that out.

People said the same kind of thing about the 5-day, 40-hour work week when the Fair Labor Standards Act was implemented in 1940, but no one bats an eye at that schedule now. It became the norm, and if a 32-hour work week was implemented, then that would eventually become the norm.
Due to automation the average worker and individual has benefited in the form of more jobs, easier and better said jobs, goods and services. Also the higher the productivity the more avaliable and cheaper the goods(generally).

But at the end of the day Either they can afford a 32hr work week or that can't. And industry's in particular like(but not limited to) healthcare, factory, contruction or transportation can't without society suffering.

And like I said earlier, the only ones that can generally get away with this are non essential white collar jobs.

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Questionmarktarius
09/21/23 3:50:55 AM
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GeminiDeus posted...
Typically, this has been my work's slowest day in the receiving department for over a year.
The more I think about it, the more "hump day" makes me like the 32-hour idea.
The only obstacle is that wednesday is a "sabbath" in no religion, and I'm willing to make my own to make that happen.
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sabin017
09/21/23 3:55:37 AM
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https://youtu.be/FaLyasJPyUU

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Torgo
09/21/23 3:55:43 AM
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All these modern conveniences and automation and science to allow us to live fuller and healthier lives just so we can work longer hours in order to afford medical care for all the stress we put on our bodies and minds working too much?

Nah, shorter work weeks and better pay.

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Mibahlzitch
09/21/23 3:59:12 AM
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I'm all for that.

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A_A_Battery
09/21/23 4:01:31 AM
#45:


Great on paper, but probably not realistic for most small businesses, esp game dev.
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Questionmarktarius
09/21/23 4:05:00 AM
#46:


Manufacturing running on four six-hour shifts could be an absurd gain.
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rexcrk
09/21/23 5:31:03 AM
#47:


With wages adjusted, thats how it should be. Im tired of feeling like Im living to work (and not having anything major to show for it) and thats with a standard 40 hour week.

Theres no reason for it other than capitalistic bullshit greed.


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Lord_Ephraim
09/21/23 5:37:49 AM
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I get paid 35 hours a week but only work 20-28 hours. Realistically I work 3 days a week with one day just me coming in to check in and do some paperwork. It's a weird perk of my contract because of covid surge.
Please don't bring back covid surge. I actually like to not have to work 6 days a week again.

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Mike_Stanton
09/21/23 5:39:33 AM
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Against. The 40-hour work week is bad enough as it is.

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Jokeaccountinc
09/21/23 8:04:56 AM
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Mike_Stanton is SUSPENDED

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