Current Events > So is Johnny Silverhand like, alive in V's brain or is he a program or what?

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MARlO 09/22/23 3:28:36 PM #1:	I never understood that. Is it the real original Johnny? --- Let's-a go! <cite>MARlO posted [p:976241057] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>I never understood that. Is it the real original Johnny? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/22/23 3:32:58 PM #2:	The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976241142] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Marsh 09/22/23 3:34:23 PM #3:	For some definition of "alive," yes. Johnny's consciousness was mapped onto the chip that V ends up slotting, thus everytime he communicates, it's coming directly from the original Johnny, just without his own body. --- http://i.imgur.com/0APl48O.gifv Chiefs win! Chiefs win! EAT IT, HATERS! <cite>El_Marsh posted [p:976241175] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>For some definition of "alive," yes.Johnny's consciousness was mapped onto the chip that V ends up slotting, thus everytime he communicates, it's coming directly from the original Johnny, just without his own body. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Marsh 09/22/23 3:35:00 PM #4:	Tyranthraxus posted... The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time? There's also this --- http://i.imgur.com/0APl48O.gifv Chiefs win! Chiefs win! EAT IT, HATERS! <cite>El_Marsh posted [p:976241186] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time?</quote>There's also this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARlO 09/22/23 3:37:20 PM #5:	Tyranthraxus posted... The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time? Holy crap you kinda just blew my mind a bit. I didnt really think about it like that before. --- Let's-a go! <cite>MARlO posted [p:976241230] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time?</quote>Holy crap you kinda just blew my mind a bit. I didnt really think about it like that before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/22/23 3:37:33 PM #6:	He's basically the bad guy from the first season of Sword Art Online --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:976241235] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>He's basically the bad guy from the first season of Sword Art Online </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 09/22/23 3:43:26 PM #7:	MARlO posted... Holy crap you kinda just blew my mind a bit. I didnt really think about it like that before. The game kinda throws it in your face lol. --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:976241326] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>MARlO posted... </cite><quote>Holy crap you kinda just blew my mind a bit. I didnt really think about it like that before.</quote>The game kinda throws it in your face lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/22/23 3:47:20 PM #8:	He ~~is V in the definitive ending.~~ Kind of like that movie Upgrade but not as grim. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:976241415] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>He is V in the definitive ending.Kind of like that movie Upgrade but not as grim. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/22/23 3:49:51 PM #9:	Jagr_68 posted... He ~~is V in the definitive ending.~~ Kind of like that movie Upgrade but not as grim. There is no definitive ending. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976241467] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite><quote>He is V in the definitive ending.Kind of like that movie Upgrade but not as grim.</quote>There is no definitive ending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 09/22/23 3:51:00 PM #10:	Tyranthraxus posted... There is no definitive ending. the suicide ending is the definitive ending <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:976241487] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>There is no definitive ending.</quote>the suicide ending is the definitive ending</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/22/23 3:52:45 PM #11:	Kaiganeer posted... the suicide ending is the definitive ending So is the new DLC before the ending then? Because I went with the secret "don't fear the reaper" ending and my V is very much still alive. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976241523] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>the suicide ending is the definitive ending</quote>So is the new DLC before the ending then? Because I went with the secret "don't fear the reaper" ending and my V is very much still alive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/22/23 3:56:00 PM #12:	s0nicfan posted... So is the new DLC before the ending then? Because I went with the secret "don't fear the reaper" ending and my V is very much still alive. Yes, at the halfway mark is when it should open up. The "no turning back" point before Arasaka Tower is still the same, hence the endings. That's according to CDPR tho, maybe there's a surprise idk --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:976241599] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>So is the new DLC before the ending then? Because I went with the secret "don't fear the reaper" ending and my V is very much still alive.</quote>Yes, at the halfway mark is when it should open up. The "no turning back" point before Arasaka Tower is still the same, hence the endings. That's according to CDPR tho, maybe there's a surprise idk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/22/23 3:57:02 PM #13:	SOMA deals with this as well. Phenomenal game. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976241623] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>SOMA deals with this as well. Phenomenal game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARlO 09/22/23 11:15:24 PM #14:	I4NRulez posted... The game kinda throws it in your face lol. Ive never really understood the Johnny stuff. The first time I played I thought he was a ghost or something. (I get it better now tho) --- Let's-a go! <cite>MARlO posted [p:976249483] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>I4NRulez posted... </cite><quote>The game kinda throws it in your face lol.</quote>Ive never really understood the Johnny stuff. The first time I played I thought he was a ghost or something. (I get it better now tho) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/22/23 11:47:01 PM #15:	s0nicfan posted... So is the new DLC before the ending then? Because I went with the secret "don't fear the reaper" ending and my V is very much still alive. the new DLC is before the ending, yeah but it also adds a new ending --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976249851] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>So is the new DLC before the ending then? Because I went with the secret "don't fear the reaper" ending and my V is very much still alive.</quote>the new DLC is before the ending, yeahbut it also adds a new ending </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 09/22/23 11:51:40 PM #16:	Kaldrenthebold posted... SOMA deals with this as well. Phenomenal game. If you want a whole game focused on this idea and fully exploring the implications, this is the one. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:976249902] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>SOMA deals with this as well. Phenomenal game.</quote>If you want a whole game focused on this idea and fully exploring the implications, this is the one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 09/23/23 9:07:25 AM #17:	MARlO posted... The first time I played I thought he was a ghost or something. How? Did you skip all the dialogue? --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:976254299] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>MARlO posted... </cite><quote>The first time I played I thought he was a ghost or something.</quote>How? Did you skip all the dialogue? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 09/23/23 9:19:25 AM #18:	Kaiganeer posted... the suicide ending is the definitive ending My official ending for V is her going off with the Nomads. If I was in V's shoes, taking myself out along with Johnny would have definitely been my thing. Fuck that guy. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:976254444] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>the suicide ending is the definitive ending</quote>My official ending for V is her going off with the Nomads.If I was in V's shoes, taking myself out along with Johnny would have definitely been my thing. Fuck that guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 09/23/23 9:31:52 AM #19:	My official ending is my V is ~~an engram in cold storage in low earth orbit~~ --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:976254609] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>My official ending is my V is an engram in cold storage in low earth orbit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 09/23/23 9:39:07 AM #20:	Tyranthraxus posted... The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time? The copy is a different person and I don't see a reason you'd have to kill the og to make a copy There I just answered the games biggest conundrums --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:976254705] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The entire game is a philosophical argument about what even is an identity do the answer is really up to you. If I copy you, is the new you also you or a different person? What if in order to copy you I had to kill you so that there could only ever be one you at any time?</quote>The copy is a different person and I don't see a reason you'd have to kill the og to make a copy There I just answered the games biggest conundrums </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 09/23/23 9:42:50 AM #21:	Smackems posted... The copy is a different person and I don't see a reason you'd have to kill the og to make a copy There I just answered the games biggest conundrums https://youtu.be/b6YSfEKMeC8?feature=shared --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976254755] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite><quote>The copy is a different person and I don't see a reason you'd have to kill the og to make a copy There I just answered the games biggest conundrums</quote>https://youtu.be/b6YSfEKMeC8?feature=shared </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARlO 09/23/23 9:19:08 PM #22:	I4NRulez posted... How? Did you skip all the dialogue? I thought there was more to the engram than what they were saying, and they were just dropping hints at an eventual reveal. I didnt know he was a literal program. In fact Im still not certain of that even as I write this, (which is why I made the topic). Im not sure if its Johnny himself in there or an ai copy. --- Let's-a go! <cite>MARlO posted [p:976266464] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>I4NRulez posted... </cite><quote>How? Did you skip all the dialogue?</quote>I thought there was more to the engram than what they were saying, and they were just dropping hints at an eventual reveal.I didnt know he was a literal program. In fact Im still not certain of that even as I write this, (which is why I made the topic). Im not sure if its Johnny himself in there or an ai copy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/23/23 9:19:50 PM #23:	Truly he is a Ghost in the Shell --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976266474] in So is John... [t:80574214]...</cite> <quote>Truly he is a Ghost in the Shell </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > So is Johnny Silverhand like, alive in V's brain or is he a program or what?