Board 8 > Board 8 Ranks the Pokemon - Gen 8

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62. Arctozolt
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Total Score: 2273
Average Rank: 53
Standard Deviation: 29.480
Electric Rank: 7/9
Ice Rank: 4/7

Fully Evolved Rank: 46/60

Rankings:
2 - GameBopAdv
8 - NFUN
10 - Paratroopa1
14 - hotdogturtle
18 - Eddv
19 - Bitto
19 - mnk
20 - andylt
22 - Brayze_II
22 - skulltrumpets
23 - DragonGargoyle
26 - MoogleKupo141
30 - Cody11533
30 - hbthebattle
31 - ScepterOfLove
32 - Steiner
35 - XIII_Rocks
38 - Inviso
48 - Xuxon
49 - Raka_Putra
53 - Bane_Of_Despair
53 - TexWolf_1729
56 - Luster Soldier
57 - Mihark
61 - Ermine
66 - VeryInsane
68 - red13n
74 - th3l3fty
76 - Anagram
77 - starfox
78 - OrangeCrush980
80 - PrinceOfKoopas
83 - ctesjbuvf
83 - xenosaga
86 - ecksgem
86 - KommunistKoala
87 - Ashethan
88 - DireKrow
91 - changmas
91 - PrinceKaro
94 - Johnbobb
94 - mcflubbin
95 - MZero

Comments:
NFUN (8) - Dude wouldn't survive 20 minutes. Rip the homie
Paratroopa1 (10) - hes so great. I love him so much. you think hes a freak and that hes probably suffering? thats just your opinion, I think hes just jittering because hes excited to be alive
hotdogturtle (14) - The only fossil that's not at the top of my list, but still an above-average Pokemon regardless.
mnk (19) - I feel so bad for him. He's doing his best...
andylt (20) - I really like what they did with the fossils this time. This one is obviously wrong but in a way that leans more towards playful than horrifying.
Inviso (38) - The two "Zolts" are cool than the two "Vishs", if only because Electric is such a rare dual-typing. That's it though.
Bane_Of_Despair (53) - The only reason why this one ranks so much higher than the -vish counterparts is because IT'S SO HAPPY. It might have a fucked up body that was put together wrongly but god damn it's happy to be alive!
Luster Soldier (56) - Another fossil Pokemon that came out looking terrible, as the head is way smaller than the bottom-heavy lower body. It apparently also has trouble walking, to the extent that can only walk very slowly.
Ermine (61) - Scientists were paid money in the Pokemon Universe to create these monstrosities. Good to know that I could become a scientist in that world if I'm a fucking moron!
PrinceOfKoopas (80) - It's just the booger boy (Zill) from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, and I hate it.
PrinceKaro (91) - why
Johnbobb (94) - https://imgur.com/bhfiUfG

aww, hes the good one!

two down, two left to exterminate

How could Johnbobb look up that gif and then still rate it at 94?

aw poor zolt

61. Barraskewda
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Total Score: 2272
Average Rank: 53
Standard Deviation: 23.615
Water Rank: 8/12

Fully Evolved Rank: 45/60

Rankings:
13 - mcflubbin
17 - ctesjbuvf
18 - Bane_Of_Despair
21 - TexWolf_1729
23 - starfox
27 - Ermine
27 - XIII_Rocks
30 - hotdogturtle
30 - KommunistKoala
31 - th3l3fty
32 - PrinceOfKoopas
33 - hbthebattle
33 - mnk
34 - Luster Soldier
37 - Cody11533
37 - DragonGargoyle
40 - Brayze_II
43 - skulltrumpets
44 - xenosaga
50 - andylt
51 - DireKrow
52 - GameBopAdv
53 - Inviso
58 - Xuxon
59 - Paratroopa1
60 - Anagram
63 - OrangeCrush980
63 - red13n
66 - Johnbobb
66 - NFUN
71 - MoogleKupo141
72 - VeryInsane
73 - MZero
75 - changmas
78 - ScepterOfLove
79 - Eddv
83 - Raka_Putra
84 - Ashethan
84 - Mihark
86 - PrinceKaro
90 - ecksgem
91 - Bitto
95 - Steiner

Comments:
Bane_Of_Despair (18) - Another from the line that was the most surprising to me, I really like this design! It keeps its smug smirk and I love the addition of the bone pattern on the body and added orange fin colors. I'd definitely try to use one in my party!
PrinceOfKoopas (32) - skew skew
DragonGargoyle (37) - I love these fish because they are ugly
Inviso (53) - Just a generic fishwe don't have enough of those in this franchise.
Paratroopa1 (59) - less cute than arrokuda but theyre basically the same thing
Johnbobb (66) - https://imgur.com/cTBt7QI
NFUN (66) - fish2

that's all for tonight!

Sizzlipede is so fucking adorable holy shit. That grumpy looking face that little moustache, it's just a fun guy. I may have ranked this one a little too high, but I have seen some of the cutest animations of this little shit I don't even care.

Every time Eternatus popped up when I was doing rankings, I kept thinking, should I rank it lower? But the absolute bizarreness of its design really won me over. It's still borderline middle of the road as far as rankings go, but there's enough to catch my eyes. Also this is the one Pokemon I actually know anything about competitively and wtf ... this guy's power is insane.

Eldegoss is another one I feel like I may have ranked a little low. I think it has a solid design objectively, but idk maybe it's just that I've already felt the love for both Jumpluff AND Whimsicott already. Some day my heart will have room for a third poofy grass type.

Gigantimax Duraludon saved this design for me. Still, I do appreciate Pokemon making weird dragon types. It would probably be too easy to just make them all different flavours of cool and edgy.

Arctozolt is such a cute guy. Their design is a little too off kilter for me to be a fan of it all on its own - even though I understand and like the reason for these guys looking all weird - but there's other stuff going for it, such as the unique type combination. Silly but a good kind of silly.

Also, I'm one of those people who mostly ranked these guys based on design. I'm an artist first and foremost, so this is the kind of thing I gravitate towards first. I've never been fussed about having balanced Pokemon teams either.

Nahhhh, Barraskewda is one of the best mons from Gen 8. Probably top five. Y'all are heathens, although I shoulda expected this after Arrokuda was almost bottom

Also, I mostly rank based on design, but also how fun something is to use competitively (not whether it's good, just if I like how it plays). Something that's bland and also doesn't feel interesting in a competitive format is never gonna be high for me, and something that looks goofy but is stupidly fun to use is almost always gonna do well.

If we didn't already have so many Grass/Ghosts, I think it would be neat to see Eldegoss evolve into a withered husk after all the fuzzies have been blown away.

I'm starting to believe ermine could be a scientist in the Pokemon world

Booooooooooo

Pretty good ranking thus far. Eternatus is the only one of my top twenty dead thus far (and admittedly, I ranked it high because, as far as legendaries go in recent years, it looks kinda badass, like this skeletal dragon that looks WAY more intimidating that Giratina did).

barraskewda is aight. kind of boring but not in a way that would make me want to pass it up entirely. it got an endearingly ugly face.

that little clip of barraskewda makes me feel like I underrated barraskewda

An excellent day all around

I really appreciate that from a competitive standpoint gens 8 and 9 have added a multitude of extremely powerful fish

I ratted Arrokuda low because it's such a nothing design, and I rated Barraskewda high because it actually has details (as well as stats to back them up). It could have worked fine as a single stage Pokemon.

mnk posted...

How could Johnbobb look up that gif and then still rate it at 94?

because that thing is the worst

I think it's kinda neat that it took until the 28th drop for someone's #1 to show up. Even though I didn't take part in the previous generations rankings, doing a quick glance at the wiki looks like they all had someone's top favorite falling much earlier. Also it seems like in the earlier ones there'd always be some pokemon that didn't place too well with anyone, while here each one so far has been rated at least 17th with someone (though hey maybe I'm jumping the gun here, there might still be some pokemon here that we all somehow unanimously agree should be rated like #50 or something)

Steiner posted...

i find it soulless and shallow to vote solely based on design but it seems to be the primary thing for a lot of you! i always found it weird because this isn't "board 8's best pokemon design" but voting based on anything else is looked down on.

My main frustration

Also "design" to me covers more than just visuals anyway. I think like, Shedinja has great "design" because of the way it mirrors irl cicadas. It was "designed" to mirror that. That's really clever and interesting to me. To look at, meh.

XIII_Rocks posted...

Also "design" to me covers more than just visuals anyway. I think like, Shedinja has great "design" because of the way it mirrors irl cicadas. It was "designed" to mirror that. That's really clever and interesting to me. To look at, meh.

Yeah, totally agreed on this. Most of my least favourite Pokmon are uninspired stuff like megas where it's just "how many spikes can we put on something that everyone agrees looked cool before?" or the awful Gen 1 trend of giving things extra (specifically, three) heads when they evolved and changing almost nothing else. Looking at you in particular Dugtrio. Although Magneton kinda gets a pass because it's literally a bunch of magnets who can't unstick which is dumb and good.

I dunno, I just rank the Pokemon based on how much I like them, it doesn't feel that complicated. The only thing I find weird is liking Pokemon based on things like stats or typing - I've played competitive Pokemon since 1999 and this has never occurred to me. The Pokemon I would like, actually want to buy merch of, are almost totally divorced from being any good. I like, literally don't get it.

^ I also don't overthink it. What Pokemon do I like more? This one. Often that's due to its design (including personality and concept), but sometimes it's random other things. Grovyle is one of my favs because of PMD2. Infernape is one of my favs because he was my starter in my childhood playthrough that I'm most nostalgic for. Etc.

I don't play competitive, so that almost never factors in. Nor do things like unique type combos. The stats don't matter to me and aren't why I love/hate a pokemon, so it's rarely an influence on me preferring one to another.

Paratroopa1 posted...

I dunno, I just rank the Pokemon based on how much I like them, it doesn't feel that complicated. The only thing I find weird is liking Pokemon based on things like stats or typing - I've played competitive Pokemon since 1999 and this has never occurred to me. The Pokemon I would like, actually want to buy merch of, are almost totally divorced from being any good. I like, literally don't get it.

its not a big factor for me, but stats or typing could make a Pokmon stand out a bit more / have an interesting role in-game, which leads to me using it and developing affinity for it

Like I think I would like Ledian more if it wasnt so weak, because then I could actually use it on my team. But as it is, its sort of a bummer that this thing that I like the look of is total junk.

A Pokemon's stats, typing, ability, moveset - these are all a part of its identity. Especially nowadays, when GameFreak basically ensures that between type, moves, and ability, every Pokemon has something totally unique to it, or a combination no one else but this Pokemon can do.

It prevents Lumineon syndrome when even mons like Spidops, weak route 1 bugs, get a signature move - something it can be known for, even if it isn't good.

Paratroopa1 posted...

I dunno, I just rank the Pokemon based on how much I like them, it doesn't feel that complicated. The only thing I find weird is liking Pokemon based on things like stats or typing - I've played competitive Pokemon since 1999 and this has never occurred to me. The Pokemon I would like, actually want to buy merch of, are almost totally divorced from being any good. I like, literally don't get it.

There's nothing weird about people factoring in how good a pokemon is for how much they like it, or for having favorite types (though I assume you meant strictly competitively and not aesthetically), just like not caring about its competitiveness isn't weird either. It's not like they're mutually exclusive anyway; I like dragonite cause it's big and goofy and ALSO cause it's really good.

And of course, this can happen retroactively. In Sw/Sh they seemed they only wanted to give new evolutions to regional forms of Pokemon but between Legends Arceus and SV, a lot of the remaining Gen 1/2 forgettable single stage mons have now gotten an evo.

Gameplay elements that make something fun or unique are a totally different thing for me - the only stuff I don't get are things like "this pokemon is slow" or "I don't like monotypes" I honestly don't even NOTICE this kind of stuff.

Imagine if there were people with sight and auditory impairment who never see any/hear of the Pokemon. I think it's fair to say that they might have favorites based on how the Pokemon play in-game.

Paratroopa1 posted...

Gameplay elements that make something fun or unique are a totally different thing for me - the only stuff I don't get are things like "this pokemon is slow" or "I don't like monotypes" I honestly don't even NOTICE this kind of stuff.

You really don't notice when your slower Pokemon repeatedly go last and thus take more damage and probably faint a lot more often?

mnk posted...

You really don't notice when your slower Pokemon repeatedly go last and thus take more damage and probably faint a lot more often?

Pokemon is like a baby's first rpg, this shit functionally doesn't even matter

For me, because I've mentioned it quite often in my write-ups, it's two-fold. With typing, there are certain mono-types and common dual-types that get overused, and this was ESPECIALLY noticeable in Sword/Shield, when the starters were all mono-types for the first time since Johto, on top of a disproportionate number of new mono-types that just felt like eight generations in, they just didn't offer anything new to the franchise, and there was no excitement there. We got ANOTHER mono-Dark early-route, two-stage Pokemon; ANOTHER mono-Electric, early-route Pokemon along with a second mono-Electric Pokemon; TWO early-route, mono-Normal Pokemon; ANOTHER feminine mono-Grass Pokemon; ANOTHER generic fish mono-Water Pokemon; ANOTHER generic mono-Fairy line; the SEVENTH two-stage, mono-Ground Pokemon line; ANOTHER mono-Ice Pokemon (this one stands out because of how underrepresented Ice is in general); both a mono-Ghost line AND a mono-Ghost regional evolution; both a mono-Steel line AND a mono-Steel regional evolution; both a mono-Fighting line AND a mono-Fighting regional evolution. I'm just saying, after eight generations, when you have to make yourself stand out...it just feels lazy.

And as for stats, I know everyone says in-game gameplay is easy, but some Pokemon are just better than others, especially if you just wanna plow through the game at a relatively fast pace. Gen VIII is just a really slow-feeling generation, and on top of the slowness, there don't feel like a lot of heavy-hitters to make up for that (or the biggest heavy-hitters are ESPECIALLY slow). It makes the pacing of the game feel annoying, especially when you still have such a large post-Dexit Pokedex to catch.

Paratroopa1 posted...

Pokemon is like a baby's first rpg, this shit functionally doesn't even matter

Okay, but like when you're playing and repeatedly having to be like "Okay Crabominable, I think you can maybe win this fight" and then oops it dies because it was too slow and also an Ice type, and this happens over and over... It's hard not to notice!

It has literally never once occurred to me to think about a Pokemon's typing with regards to how much I like it, it's just like, fully irrelevant data to me

mnk posted...

Okay, but like when you're playing and repeatedly having to be like "Okay Crabominable, I think you can maybe win this fight" and then oops it dies because it was too slow and also an Ice type, and this happens over and over... It's hard not to notice!

this has never happened to me

Paratroopa1 posted...

It has literally never once occurred to me to think about a Pokemon's typing with regards to how much I like it, it's just like, fully irrelevant data to me

A good Pokemon is a good Pokemon, sure. Mono-type or not (literally my favorite Pokemon is a mono-type). But an average or otherwise mediocre Pokemon certainly takes a hit when it comes across as just more of the same, or an inferior version of something else we've seen countless times before.

Eldegoss is one of my all time favorite pokemon cards and i love the dandelion theme.

Inviso posted...

A good Pokemon is a good Pokemon, sure. Mono-type or not (literally my favorite Pokemon is a mono-type). But an average or otherwise mediocre Pokemon certainly takes a hit when it comes across as just more of the same, or an inferior version of something else we've seen countless times before.

Well sure but then we just get into the fundamental disagreements on design which was the whole start of the thing lol

Inviso posted...

ANOTHER feminine mono-Grass Pokemon

Grass type does have an unusually high number of feminine grass type Pokemon, second only to Fairy type in that regard. By my count, I'd consider all of these Grass types to have some visible feminine vibe to them:

Bellossom, Roselia, Roserade, Lilligant, Virizion, Steenee, Tsareena, Gossifleur, Eldegoss, Meowscarada, Dolliv, Arboliva, Ogerpon

thanks luster

There was one instance where a pokemon being bad in-game just made me dislike it. I planned to use Alolan Marowak at the Grass Trial, but then I found out that without the Move Reminder at the end of the game it can't learn any fire or ghost moves, so it was pretty much useless. Oh, and naturally it was pretty early on so I didn't have any decent TMs for those types either.

Paratroopa1 posted...

this has never happened to me

Lucky you, lol. We probably just play the games differently, but I purposely try to avoid being overleveled, and speed is a much bigger factor then.

I mean, I get outsped, but either the mon is bulky enough that it's making up for a speed deficiency, or it's just a bad mon and I'm using it to try to wrangle any challenge out of the game at all

I don't give a fuck what a Pokemon's type is as long as it is in service to the design itself tbqh

I rank pokemon based on design, how good they are, how much I've used them, any cool or bad memories I have of them, their role in battle, my mood when I first encountered them, and the will of the stars. After I quantify each measure and normalize them, it's a simple matter to plot each pokemon in 7-space and rank them based on their distance from the origin.

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