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Necronmon
10/12/23 1:08:32 AM
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https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-gantz-agree-form-emergency-israel-government-statement-2023-10-11/

I want Hamas exterminated...but I do hope it can be done without the price being Israel descending into fascism itself...Netanyahu better be watched closely during all of this.
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Zikten
10/12/23 1:09:51 AM
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I fear that when they say Hamas they just mean anyone in Palestine
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Punished_Blinx
10/12/23 1:12:30 AM
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I'd say this is gonna get ugly but it was already ugly.

I will say the biggest surprise of all of this was just how vulnerable Israel seemed to be. Just seemed like Hamas had open season.

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Zikten
10/12/23 1:15:19 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I'd say this is gonna get ugly but it was already ugly.

I will say the biggest surprise of all of this was just how vulnerable Israel seemed to be. Just seemed like Hamas had open season.
I don't understand how the paragliders made it into the concert. I would have thought Israel always has people watching the sky

Before this happened, if someone had said they would do this, I would have assumed they would be shot out of the air
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Necronmon
10/12/23 1:16:55 AM
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It seems there systems were hacked into from what I heard...there's a very real possibility Trump told Putin some of Israel's secrets and they gave that knowledge to Iran or Hamas.
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ThePieReborn
10/12/23 1:23:40 AM
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Only guarantee is that there is going to be a fuckload of pointless and meaningless deaths.

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indica
10/12/23 2:31:03 AM
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Zikten posted...
I fear that when they say Hamas they just mean anyone in Palestine
Your fear seems well founded, especially after they cut off water and electricity to all of Gaza ( -_-)

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hockeybub89
10/12/23 2:38:05 AM
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indica posted...
Your fear seems well founded, especially after they cut off water and electricity to all of Gaza ( -_-)
Careful. Some liberals will tell you that Israel has no other choice and the deliberate deaths of thousands of innocents is just the unfortunate cost of fighting a defensive war.

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ToadallyAwesome
10/12/23 2:40:25 AM
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Zikten posted...
I fear that when they say Hamas they just mean anyone in Palestine

I really really hope not . But it does sound that way doesnt it?

And its at the core of a lot of the problem at hand, a lot of uninformed people think Hamas and Palestine are the same.

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shironinja
10/12/23 2:42:59 AM
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Apparently a lot of Palestinians are afraid of Hamas. They wont speak badly about them or report their actions.

Palestinians need to 180 that behaviour and stop being complacent with terrorists.

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hockeybub89
10/12/23 2:46:32 AM
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shironinja posted...
Apparently a lot of Palestinians are afraid of Hamas. They wont speak badly about them or report their actions.

Palestinians need to 180 that behaviour and stop being complacent with terrorists.
So they deserve to die if they don't overthrow their government?

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ai123
10/12/23 2:50:24 AM
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shironinja posted...
Apparently a lot of Palestinians are afraid of Hamas. They wont speak badly about them or report their actions.

Palestinians need to 180 that behaviour and stop being complacent with terrorists.
So, are they frightened or complacent?

Being both doesn't seem possible.

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Rika_Furude
10/12/23 2:51:18 AM
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shironinja posted...
Apparently a lot of Palestinians are afraid of Hamas. They wont speak badly about them or report their actions.

Palestinians need to 180 that behaviour and stop being complacent with terrorists.
When the consequences for such actions is a slow painful death for you and everyone you know, they absolutely dont need to sacrifice themselves.
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yemmy
10/12/23 2:52:34 AM
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Necronmon posted...
It seems there systems were hacked into from what I heard...there's a very real possibility Trump told Putin some of Israel's secrets and they gave that knowledge to Iran or Hamas.

if you stump your toe tomorrow morning youll say ah fuck , Donald trump broke into my house and moved that table 1 last night

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ultimate_reaver
10/12/23 2:58:35 AM
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Gotta tie trump and Russia to everything to make the universe make sense

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DerWillZurMacht
10/12/23 2:58:40 AM
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Necronmon posted...
I want Hamas exterminated...but I do hope it can be done without the price being Israel descending into fascism itself
Surely you speak in jest.
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TetsuoS2
10/12/23 3:01:04 AM
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shironinja posted...
Apparently a lot of Palestinians are afraid of Hamas. They wont speak badly about them or report their actions.

Palestinians need to 180 that behaviour and stop being complacent with terrorists.

when your family can get napped, tortured, and killed, you don't have that choice.

do it yourself if you're there, but don't randomly call people complacent without skin in the game.

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SHRlKE
10/12/23 3:14:35 AM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
when your family can get napped, tortured, and killed, you don't have that choice.

do it yourself if you're there, but don't randomly call people complacent without skin in the game.

Exactly. Its easy to play the big man when you are stuck behind your computer in safety where you do have to face consequences for your actions. You really think the same people who cant even take a mis dealt with moderation without crying would be able to deal with having the threat of your entire family being kidnapped.Murdered. Or worse?

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Arcanine2009
10/12/23 3:19:28 AM
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Necronmon posted...
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-gantz-agree-form-emergency-israel-government-statement-2023-10-11/

I want Hamas exterminated...but I do hope it can be done without the price being Israel descending into fascism itself...Netanyahu better be watched closely during all of this.
Israel already fell into facism long ago.

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hockeybub89
10/12/23 7:38:03 AM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
when your family can get napped, tortured, and killed, you don't have that choice.

do it yourself if you're there, but don't randomly call people complacent without skin in the game.
It reminds me of when people call refugees cowards for running away instead of "fixing their own country"

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chaos_knight
10/12/23 7:41:30 AM
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Good.

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ScazarMeltex
10/12/23 7:45:10 AM
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Zikten posted...
I don't understand how the paragliders made it into the concert. I would have thought Israel always has people watching the sky

Before this happened, if someone had said they would do this, I would have assumed they would be shot out of the air
Low tech solutions often thwart mechanisms designed to beat high tech machinery. If you want an interesting look at just how absurd it can go read about the military exercise/war games called The Millenium Challenge.

The guy running opposition forces was able to "sink" an aircraft carrier by using ground fired rockets and dudes on civilian speed boats firing shoulder mounted rockets. It fucked things up so bad they had to reset the game.

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Dark_Arbron
10/12/23 7:45:41 AM
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yemmy posted...
if you stump your toe tomorrow morning youll say ah fuck , Donald trump broke into my house and moved that table 1 last night

rent free!!1 orange man bad!!1 you people will shit on Trump for anything!!1

Are we going to pretend Trump didnt steal secrets? Are we going to pretend Trump didnt keep his conversations with Putin suspiciously close to the chest? Are we going to pretend Trump wasnt a known security risk and the armed forces went out of their way to keep as much from him as possible?

There is nothing unbelievable about Necronmons theory. Trumps shittiness is well and truly in the Tyson Zone. No one said he definitely leaked anything, but would it surprise me if it turns out he did? Fuck. The hell. No.

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Cheater87
10/12/23 7:48:09 AM
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There is an extreme irony about Israel going fascist.

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TetsuoS2
10/12/23 7:48:39 AM
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SHRlKE posted...
Exactly. Its easy to play the big man when you are stuck behind your computer in safety where you do have to face consequences for your actions. You really think the same people who cant even take a mis dealt with moderation without crying would be able to deal with having the threat of your entire family being kidnapped.Murdered. Or worse?

hockeybub89 posted...
It reminds me of when people call refugees cowards for running away instead of "fixing their own country"

it's just a bit of understanding, people could really use it.

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Dark_Arbron
10/12/23 7:49:27 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
There is an extreme irony about Israel going fascist.

And ethnic cleansing.

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Ricemills
10/12/23 7:56:26 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Careful. Some liberals will tell you that Israel has no other choice and the deliberate deaths of thousands of innocents is just the unfortunate cost of fighting a defensive war.

Liberals?

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Zwijn
10/12/23 8:00:57 AM
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And I want westerners to focus less on either sand shithole. These arent allies, only reason people talk about it is political gain from certain western governments. The west should care about this conflict just as much as a random tribe war in some other forsaken place.
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Nok_Su_Kow
10/12/23 8:03:49 AM
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I hope all Palestinian citizens are able to arrive in Egypt with safe passage. Hope Hamas can be destroyed so that no more innocent people are killed.
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ssjevot
10/12/23 8:08:57 AM
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Nok_Su_Kow posted...
I hope all Palestinian citizens are able to arrive in Egypt with safe passage. Hope Hamas can be destroyed so that no more innocent people are killed.

There is basically no chance Egypt will allow them in.

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CreepyGuy2007
10/12/23 8:10:08 AM
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chaos_knight posted...
Good.

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IceCreamOnStero
10/12/23 8:11:25 AM
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I'm sure they'll also get rid of the brutal colonial apartheid policies that pushed Palestinians to fight back in the first place /s

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Arcanine2009
10/12/23 1:16:56 PM
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Nok_Su_Kow posted...
I hope all Palestinian citizens are able to arrive in Egypt with safe passage. Hope Hamas can be destroyed so that no more innocent people are killed.
Crazy to think they should be all forced out of their homes.

While Hamas can be destroyed, the current Israeli government needs to be dismantled too. Netanyahu is awful.

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GS4Life
10/12/23 1:30:34 PM
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Zikten posted...
I fear that when they say Hamas they just mean anyone in Palestine
This or at least not care about the amount of civillian causilities they cause
Hamas itself deserves to be wiped out

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ZaruenKosai
10/12/23 1:32:25 PM
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ssjevot posted...
There is basically no chance Egypt will allow them in.
no shit.(not directed at you btw, sorry if it comes off that way)..
it's just theatre so the world can pretend and move on.
deep down we all know whats actually happening.

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SaikyoStyle
10/12/23 1:34:56 PM
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The Likud have no intention of eliminating Hamas, even if they thought they could. The threat of Hamas keeps them in power and like all right-wingers, power is the only thing that matters to them.

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Sir_Will
10/12/23 2:12:27 PM
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Zikten posted...
I fear that when they say Hamas they just mean anyone in Palestine
That's the only way they could complete their ridiculous statement. They're not even really targeting Hamas right now, they're going for more destruction over more precise hits.

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kingdrake2
10/12/23 2:36:32 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So they deserve to die if they don't overthrow their government?


maybe. if they try to overthrow they die.

all options lead to die.

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Cocytus
10/12/23 2:37:54 PM
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Why would Hamas do a juvenile thing like they did anyway?

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SHRlKE
10/12/23 2:40:28 PM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
it's just a bit of understanding, people could really use it.

Empathy is something that's also missing.

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GeraldDarko
10/12/23 2:58:52 PM
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Cocytus posted...
Why would Hamas do a juvenile thing like they did anyway?
To provoke a response.

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ZMythos
10/12/23 2:59:15 PM
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Cocytus posted...
Why would Hamas do a juvenile thing like they did anyway?
Seems to me that:

Hamas doesn't care if Palestinians die so long as Jews die.
and
Israeli gov't doesn't care if Palestinians die so long as Hamas dies.

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Pikachuchupika
10/12/23 3:21:00 PM
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Cocytus posted...
Why would Hamas do a juvenile thing like they did anyway?

Tensions were always high between these two nations. I can't speak for anyone in that place, but I can only imagine the two sides hate each other very much. Hamas and Israel have been fighting for years I believe. Hamas committing the massacre was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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luigi33
10/12/23 3:21:53 PM
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Zikten posted...
I fear that when they say Hamas they just mean anyone in Palestine
Israel does not separate the two.

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uwnim
10/12/23 3:26:32 PM
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IceCreamOnStero posted...
I'm sure they'll also get rid of the brutal colonial apartheid policies that pushed Palestinians to fight back in the first place /s
They are currently part of Israel due to wars Israel had between Egypt and Jordan. Before one of them, Gaza was controlled by Egypt and West Bank was controlled by Jordan.

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GS4Life
10/12/23 3:35:28 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Seems to me that:

Hamas doesn't care if Palestinians die so long as Jews die.
and
Israeli gov't doesn't care if Palestinians die so long as Hamas dies.
basically

it's lose-lose for the civilians

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darkace77450
10/12/23 3:38:14 PM
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ultimate_reaver posted...
Gotta tie trump and Russia to everything to make the universe make sense

Fact: Hamas is funded by Iran
Fact: Iran is allied with Russia
Fact: Trump divulged sensitive information pertaining to Israeli security to Russian diplomats

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GS4Life
10/12/23 3:45:30 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Fact: Hamas is funded by Iran
Fact: Iran is allied with Russia
Fact: Trump divulged sensitive information pertaining to Israeli security to Russian diplomats
sadly even if we have hard evidence of this Trump still won't spend a day in jail and his supporters will dismiss it as fake liberal propaganda

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kingdrake2
10/12/23 3:49:55 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Fact: Trump divulged sensitive information pertaining to Israeli security to Russian diplomats


then russia shared that information with iran to give to hamas.

Trump did it again.

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DarthAragorn
10/12/23 3:58:59 PM
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The west really needs to cut all funding to Israel

Gotta bomb them brown people though am I right

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