Current Events > For a country founded on the disdain of taxes, we sure tax everything now

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Monolith1676
10/14/23 12:45:19 PM
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The Founding Fathers are rolling at lightspeed in their graves now.

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Billyionaire
10/14/23 12:47:24 PM
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yo dawg we heard you like taxes so we put taxes in your taxes so you can do yo civic duty while you do yo civic duty

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C_Pain
10/14/23 12:47:37 PM
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taxation is theft

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ellis123
10/14/23 12:49:35 PM
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For a country founded on a disdain for taxation without representation we sure do love it when we are taxing people who have no representation.

And we always loved taxation. We just hated it when others were the ones benefiting.

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SaikyoStyle
10/14/23 12:49:36 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
The Founding Fathers are rolling at lightspeed in their graves now.
Good. They were a gaggle of aristocratic slaveowners play-acting at being revolutionaries and the only freedom they really wanted was the freedom to pillage and oppress others.

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potdnewb
10/14/23 12:50:05 PM
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the educational system really failed this tc

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DrizztLink
10/14/23 12:50:05 PM
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Taxation without reputation is tyrannosaurus.

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lilORANG
10/14/23 12:59:37 PM
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We didn't like paying the Brits taxes bc we didn't have representation and we didn't see the benefits of those taxes.

We weren't anti-tax

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ClayGuida
10/14/23 1:02:34 PM
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The disdain from taxes was about not having any actual say in matters, hence taxation without representation.

Also why DC uses that slogan.

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DarthAragorn
10/14/23 1:03:32 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
The disdain from taxes was about not having any actual say in matters, hence taxation without representation.

Also why DC uses that slogan.
pretty weird that they then immediately made it so only white landowners had representation

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indica
10/14/23 1:04:00 PM
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The founders were never against taxing the population--it was just propaganda. Look up Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion

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mercurydude
10/14/23 1:08:27 PM
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"The poors are able to buy FANCY spicy mustard with their welfare queen stamps, and the pastor of my megachurch can only have six golden yachts when he needs seven to make it holy. Why is the injustice allowed to continue!?" - TC, probably

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TaxationIsTheft
10/14/23 1:10:04 PM
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C_Pain posted...
taxation is theft
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Rika_Furude
10/14/23 1:11:32 PM
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The Conservative Party rather
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Tom_Joad
10/14/23 1:13:08 PM
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C_Pain posted...
taxation is theft

If taxation is theft, then theft is taxation.

Hmmm, that doesn't work, does it?

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potdnewb
10/14/23 1:13:40 PM
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my favorite thing about all the tax is theft people is they honestly think society would be better if everything that taxes help maintain was privatized what a joke

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Jagr_68
10/14/23 1:13:55 PM
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lilORANG posted...
We didn't like paying the Brits taxes bc we didn't have representation and we didn't see the benefits of those taxes.

We weren't anti-tax


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mustachedmystic
10/14/23 1:14:55 PM
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Jesus says pay your taxes. So does IRS
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Questionmarktarius
10/14/23 1:15:25 PM
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Want free shit
Despise taxes

That's what happened. That's why, instead of an actually-progressive income tax, or a simple VAT, we're taxed by a thousand cuts.
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CableZL
10/14/23 1:15:51 PM
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This, exactly

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Agonized_rufous
10/14/23 1:16:01 PM
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Theft is taxation

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TheMikh
10/14/23 1:22:17 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
The Founding Fathers are rolling at lightspeed in their graves now.
maybe if we harvested that energy, nationalized it, and sold it for cheap we'd be so rich we wouldn't need taxes

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Questionmarktarius
10/14/23 1:25:34 PM
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There's no good reason why unincorporated territories can't have actual voting housemembers. It might take an amendment, but I don't see it being actively opposed, unless we expect Guam to vote democrat or something.
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indica
10/14/23 1:29:39 PM
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Sounds about right

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ellis123
10/14/23 1:31:46 PM
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DC, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Micronesia, and Palau pay US Federal taxes while not receiving any representation. Other territories, such as Guam and Samoa, do not always have to pay federal US taxes but are set up in such a way that at any time they can be required to give money to the US government and are thus essentially able to be taxed at any time with no representation in the matter.

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Questionmarktarius
10/14/23 1:32:57 PM
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I don't think PR pays federal tax. Being a tax haven is pretty much its entire economy.
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FunWithAFryPan
10/14/23 1:34:20 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
The Founding Fathers are rolling at lightspeed in their graves now.
They were probably already rolling over in their graves from abolishing slavery.

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Questionmarktarius
10/14/23 1:34:58 PM
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FunWithAFryPan posted...
They were probably already rolling over in their graves from abolishing slavery.
John Adams wasn't
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WingsOfGood
10/14/23 1:35:07 PM
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Except the rich
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ellis123
10/14/23 1:36:26 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I don't think PR pays federal tax. Being a tax haven is pretty much its entire economy.
They do, they just don't pay things like income taxes. Thus if you are fabulously wealthy the taxes that you do pay are irrelevant, while the ones that you don't pay are extremely important. It's why tax havens typically have very high property taxes while having low/non-existent income ones: property is owned by people that live there, income is owned by the capitalists screwing everyone there over.

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Questionmarktarius
10/14/23 1:38:25 PM
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ellis123 posted...
They do, they just don't pay things like income taxes.
so... just FICA?
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brestugo
10/14/23 1:48:16 PM
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indica posted...
The founders were never against taxing the population--it was just propaganda. Look up Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion

These.

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Questionmarktarius
10/14/23 1:54:44 PM
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brestugo posted...
These.
Excise taxes are completely evadeable, by simply not doing what's taxed.
The founders did not want "head" taxes, at all. Good luck not having an income.
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FunWithAFryPan
10/14/23 2:10:07 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
John Adams wasn't
And yet my point stands.

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FlyEaglesFly24
10/14/23 2:11:23 PM
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potdnewb posted...
the educational system really failed this tc

You can lead a horse to the river but you cant make him drink.

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