Current Events > Man imprisoned 16 years for wrongful conviction fatally shot by Georgia deputy

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eggcorn 10/17/23 7:26:36 PM #1:	https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lee-allen-cure-imprisoned-16-years-wrongful-conviction-fatal-shooting-georgia-deputy/? --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:976714562] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lee-allen-cure-imprisoned-16-years-wrongful-conviction-fatal-shooting-georgia-deputy/? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArkhamOrigins 10/17/23 7:29:13 PM #2:	Jfc --- The <cite>ArkhamOrigins posted [p:976714603] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Jfc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/17/23 7:33:33 PM #3:	This is America. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:976714677] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>This is America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/17/23 7:34:43 PM #4:	Cure was convicted of the 2003 armed robbery of a drug store in Florida's Dania Beach and sentenced to life in prison because he had previous convictions for robbery and other crimes. but people guilty of insurrection only get 15-20 years... --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976714702] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote><quote>Cure was convicted of the 2003 armed robbery of a drug store in Florida's Dania Beach and sentenced to life in prison because he had previous convictions for robbery and other crimes.</quote>but people guilty of insurrection only get 15-20 years... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 10/18/23 5:17:04 AM #5:	cjsdowg posted... This is America. --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:976721037] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>This is America.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 10/18/23 5:20:35 AM #6:	waiting for the full version to come out as it always does, but if it did indeed go down how they say it did and the video corroborates that.... tragic loss but damn. I was thinking they just straight up murdered the guy. --- yes <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:976721055] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>waiting for the full version to come out as it always does, but if it did indeed go down how they say it did and the video corroborates that.... tragic loss but damn. I was thinking they just straight up murdered the guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/18/23 6:24:23 AM #7:	He might have been in a panic attack over the idea of being in custody again. Fears of being given another life sentence were probably racing through his mind. I'm sure his original ordeal left deep trauma in his mind. The cop basically set him up to fail. Over what was likely a minor traffic infraction <cite>Zikten posted [p:976721398] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>He might have been in a panic attack over the idea of being in custody again. Fears of being given another life sentence were probably racing through his mind. I'm sure his original ordeal left deep trauma in his mind. The cop basically set him up to fail. Over what was likely a minor traffic infraction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/18/23 6:34:18 AM #8:	Zikten posted... He might have been in a panic attack over the idea of being in custody again. Fears of being given another life sentence were probably racing through his mind. I'm sure his original ordeal left deep trauma in his mind. The cop basically set him up to fail. Over what was likely a minor traffic infraction This was noted in one report I saw. He'd been wrongfully convicted once already, in his mind what's there to prevent it again? --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976721478] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>He might have been in a panic attack over the idea of being in custody again. Fears of being given another life sentence were probably racing through his mind. I'm sure his original ordeal left deep trauma in his mind. The cop basically set him up to fail. Over what was likely a minor traffic infraction</quote>This was noted in one report I saw. He'd been wrongfully convicted once already, in his mind what's there to prevent it again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 10/18/23 6:38:24 AM #9:	thronedfire2 posted... but people guilty of insurrection only get 15-20 years... it might been a three strike law and if he used a gun in those robberies would play a part in heavy sentencing. but to the stop itself, I think more details are for sure needed. If the story told is accurate,Officer used stun gun and baton once the victim became violent, but had go lethal force once those failed to stop him. But let see what the investigation brings up and reveals. --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:976721513] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>but people guilty of insurrection only get 15-20 years...</quote>it might been a three strike law and if he used a gun in those robberies would play a part in heavy sentencing. but to the stop itself, I think more details are for sure needed. If the story told is accurate,Officer used stun gun and baton once the victim became violent, but had go lethal force once those failed to stop him. But let see what the investigation brings up and reveals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/18/23 6:42:54 AM #10:	This is the second Georgia case I'm aware of where a stun gun and force resulted in death during a traffic stop for a moving violation . WTF is going on down there? --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976721549] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>This is the second Georgia case I'm aware of where a stun gun and force resulted in death during a traffic stop for a moving violation . WTF is going on down there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 10/18/23 6:58:12 AM #11:	I don't think police care about a wrongful conviction when they're struggling with a suspect and start firing rounds. It really has nothing to do with anything here other than getting clicks on the article and generating outrage over this incident when we really don't know all the details and whether or not that type of force was justified. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:976721668] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>I don't think police care about a wrongful conviction when they're struggling with a suspect and start firing rounds. It really has nothing to do with anything here other than getting clicks on the article and generating outrage over this incident when we really don't know all the details and whether or not that type of force was justified. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/18/23 7:33:06 AM #12:	brestugo posted... WTF is going on down there? Cops have a problem with black people thinking they're allowed to drive or something? Seriously, though: ticketing quotas, revenue generating incentives (in the form of tickets), lack of public funding that requires "revenue generation," civil asset forfeiture incentives, overtime incentives, institutional police bias against minorities, institutional Georgia bias against minorities... --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976721945] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>WTF is going on down there?</quote>Cops have a problem with black people thinking they're allowed to drive or something?Seriously, though: ticketing quotas, revenue generating incentives (in the form of tickets), lack of public funding that requires "revenue generation," civil asset forfeiture incentives, overtime incentives, institutional police bias against minorities, institutional Georgia bias against minorities... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/18/23 7:35:08 AM #13:	LeoRavus posted... we really don't know all the details and whether or not that type of force was justified. brestugo posted... a traffic stop for a moving violation It was not. (Not justified, that is.) --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976721960] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>we really don't know all the details and whether or not that type of force was justified.</quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>a traffic stop for a moving violation</quote>It was not. (Not justified, that is.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/18/23 8:29:46 AM #14:	LeoRavus posted... I don't think police care about a wrongful conviction when they're struggling with a suspect and start firing rounds. It really has nothing to do with anything here other than getting clicks on the article and generating outrage over this incident when we really don't know all the details and whether or not that type of force was justified. There's a difference between "getting clicks on the article" and highlighting systemic problems (certain demographics being more likely to falsely imprisoned, creating the panic response when released) "Even when they're free, they always struggled with the concern, the fear that they'll be convicted and incarcerated again for something they didn't do," he said. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:976722545] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>I don't think police care about a wrongful conviction when they're struggling with a suspect and start firing rounds. It really has nothing to do with anything here other than getting clicks on the article and generating outrage over this incident when we really don't know all the details and whether or not that type of force was justified.</quote>There's a difference between "getting clicks on the article" and highlighting systemic problems (certain demographics being more likely to falsely imprisoned, creating the panic response when released)"Even when they're free, they always struggled with the concern, the fear that they'll be convicted and incarcerated again for something they didn't do," he said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/18/23 8:32:50 AM #15:	He was released in 2020. Dude didn't even get 5 years out before getting killed over a fucking traffic stop. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976722571] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>He was released in 2020. Dude didn't even get 5 years out before getting killed over a fucking traffic stop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 10/18/23 8:40:14 AM #16:	This one really could go either way, but as described it sounds like he got erratic and attacked the cop, who used non-lethal methods to try and subdue him. I can understand being erratic at the prospect of going back to jail after such an ordeal. But it also seems there's no information on what the stop was for. Can't make a personal determination on how justified the level of response of the officer was in this case. I hope the review is fair and not just back patting of their bro on the force. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:976722649] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>This one really could go either way, but as described it sounds like he got erratic and attacked the cop, who used non-lethal methods to try and subdue him.I can understand being erratic at the prospect of going back to jail after such an ordeal. But it also seems there's no information on what the stop was for. Can't make a personal determination on how justified the level of response of the officer was in this case. I hope the review is fair and not just back patting of their bro on the force. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/18/23 8:50:09 AM #17:	BurmesePenguin posted... Can't make a personal determination on how justified the level of response of the officer was in this case. Cops can stand on the hood of a car before counting to the roof of a car and then breaking their back without killing someone at a traffic stop. If they can manage that level of self-control... why not here? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976722766] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Can't make a personal determination on how justified the level of response of the officer was in this case.</quote>Cops can stand on the hood of a car before counting to the roof of a car and then breaking their back without killing someone at a traffic stop. If they can manage that level of self-control... why not here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 10/18/23 8:58:21 AM #18:	Definitely going to need the video before any real judgements can be made. It's entirely possible for it to be a fuckup cop coverup nonsense story, and it's entirely possible the guy put them in a situation where lethal force was necessary. <cite>Nemu posted [p:976722856] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Definitely going to need the video before any real judgements can be made. It's entirely possible for it to be a fuckup cop coverup nonsense story, and it's entirely possible the guy put them in a situation where lethal force was necessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/18/23 12:40:04 PM #19:	Zikten posted... He might have been in a panic attack over the idea of being in custody again. Fears of being given another life sentence were probably racing through his mind. I'm sure his original ordeal left deep trauma in his mind. The cop basically set him up to fail. Over what was likely a minor traffic infraction Since they didn't say what he did to be bulled over and arrested when this first happened. I don't trust anything they have to say. Like how can that not be something you they explain off the bat. Since they were arresting him for it. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:976726228] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>He might have been in a panic attack over the idea of being in custody again. Fears of being given another life sentence were probably racing through his mind. I'm sure his original ordeal left deep trauma in his mind. The cop basically set him up to fail. Over what was likely a minor traffic infraction</quote>Since they didn't say what he did to be bulled over and arrested when this first happened. I don't trust anything they have to say. Like how can that not be something you they explain off the bat. Since they were arresting him for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 10/18/23 7:19:39 PM #20:	Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok <cite>Hospy posted [p:976733741] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rotterdammerung 10/18/23 7:26:32 PM #21:	Hospy posted... Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok Seems like they were both very keen to have a confrontation. --- Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things. GNU STP <cite>Rotterdammerung posted [p:976733849] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Hospy posted... </cite><quote>Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok</quote>Seems like they were both very keen to have a confrontation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noname13 10/18/23 7:30:03 PM #22:	Rotterdammerung posted... Seems like they were both very keen to have a confrontation. Are you watching the same video? He's driving extremely fast before the stop. Comes out the vehicle swearing, name calling, and wanting to fight. He walks towards him with his fists clenched. Dude, there's no way. You don't even have to like cops 0.00001 percent to see the driver is the aggressor here. In several points he does stuff like ripping the taser prongs, shoving his hand in the cops face and grabbing it <cite>Noname13 posted [p:976733921] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Rotterdammerung posted... </cite><quote>Seems like they were both very keen to have a confrontation.</quote>Are you watching the same video? He's driving extremely fast before the stop. Comes out the vehicle swearing, name calling, and wanting to fight. He walks towards him with his fists clenched. Dude, there's no way. You don't even have to like cops 0.00001 percent to see the driver is the aggressor here. In several points he does stuff like ripping the taser prongs, shoving his hand in the cops face and grabbing it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 10/18/23 7:35:48 PM #23:	Hospy posted... Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok Dang. If he would have stayed in the vehicle and kept his cool he probably would have been fine. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:976734036] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Hospy posted... </cite><quote>Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNIAozOIok</quote>Dang. If he would have stayed in the vehicle and kept his cool he probably would have been fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
runewalshPSiv 10/18/23 7:37:53 PM #24:	That dude 100% caused his own death. I'll never understand why people act like that with cops during a stop when you know it's not going to end well for you. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss <cite>runewalshPSiv posted [p:976734068] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>That dude 100% caused his own death. I'll never understand why people act like that with cops during a stop when you know it's not going to end well for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/18/23 10:29:18 PM #25:	runewalshPSiv posted... That dude 100% caused his own death. I'll never understand why people act like that with cops during a stop when you know it's not going to end well for you. Whether you agree or not I would think you'd understand he 'acted like that with cops' at least partially due to terrible past with them... <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:976737098] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>runewalshPSiv posted... </cite><quote>That dude 100% caused his own death. I'll never understand why people act like that with cops during a stop when you know it's not going to end well for you.</quote>Whether you agree or not I would think you'd understand he 'acted like that with cops' at least partially due to terrible past with them...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noname13 10/18/23 10:34:31 PM #26:	Ruvan22 posted... Whether you agree or not I would think you'd understand he 'acted like that with cops' at least partially due to terrible past with them... Is it though? To be immediately come out wanting to fight after speeding like that? <cite>Noname13 posted [p:976737198] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>Whether you agree or not I would think you'd understand he 'acted like that with cops' at least partially due to terrible past with them...</quote>Is it though? To be immediately come out wanting to fight after speeding like that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 10/18/23 10:39:55 PM #27:	Ruvan22 posted... Whether you agree or not I would think you'd understand he 'acted like that with cops' at least partially due to terrible past with them... He was choking a police officer and calling him a bitch when he was shot. Both of them almost went out onto the highway during the struggle, the taser had a minimal reaction and did not achieve a body lock-up, and there is zero reason why that officer would think this man was not trying to kill him at the moment shots were fired. The headline on that article was perfectly crafted to fan the flames. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:976737280] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>Whether you agree or not I would think you'd understand he 'acted like that with cops' at least partially due to terrible past with them...</quote>He was choking a police officer and calling him a bitch when he was shot.Both of them almost went out onto the highway during the struggle, the taser had a minimal reaction and did not achieve a body lock-up, and there is zero reason why that officer would think this man was not trying to kill him at the moment shots were fired. The headline on that article was perfectly crafted to fan the flames. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 10/18/23 10:59:21 PM #28:	Terrible cop <cite>Gritty posted [p:976737557] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Terrible cop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noname13 10/18/23 11:29:44 PM #30:	Gritty posted... Terrible cop Yeah damn, shouldve just let himself get killed <cite>Noname13 posted [p:976737928] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Gritty posted... </cite><quote>Terrible cop</quote>Yeah damn, shouldve just let himself get killed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/18/23 11:53:44 PM #31:	Noname13 posted... Yeah damn, shouldve just let himself get killed He should not acted like a crazed fool before it got to that point. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:976738227] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Noname13 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah damn, shouldve just let himself get killed</quote>He should not acted like a crazed fool before it got to that point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 10/18/23 11:55:31 PM #32:	Fairest next ever. Shame the Brinks driver didn't get there sooner, but this one is pretty cut and dry. Dude also cried after he shot him, so obviously he didn't want to do it. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:976738240] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Fairest next ever. Shame the Brinks driver didn't get there sooner, but this one is pretty cut and dry.Dude also cried after he shot him, so obviously he didn't want to do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 10/19/23 12:03:15 AM #33:	Gritty posted... Terrible cop That cop actually showed far more restraint than many, MANY of his coworkers would have. Reminder that cops have shot people with one second warnings. This was a tragedy, to be sure, though. --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:976738326] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Gritty posted... </cite><quote>Terrible cop</quote>That cop actually showed far more restraint than many, MANY of his coworkers would have.Reminder that cops have shot people with one second warnings. This was a tragedy, to be sure, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 10/19/23 10:25:29 AM #34:	Cop showed a lot of restraint till he couldnt, he wasnt going to win the struggle between them and one them could easily went into the freeway had it continued. This is self defense --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:976743061] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Cop showed a lot of restraint till he couldnt, he wasnt going to win the struggle between them and one them could easily went into the freeway had it continued. This is self defense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/19/23 10:40:59 AM #35:	Noname13 posted... Is it though? To be immediately come out wanting to fight after speeding like that? Sorry wasn't sure what you mean by "it"? His past mistreatment by police/legal system? I'm not saying that the past injustice was the only factor in his response, just that when I think about how he acted it would definitely play a role. Patchwork posted... He was choking a police officer and calling him a bitch when he was shot. Both of them almost went out onto the highway during the struggle, the taser had a minimal reaction and did not achieve a body lock-up, and there is zero reason why that officer would think this man was not trying to kill him at the moment shots were fired. The headline on that article was perfectly crafted to fan the flames. I don't disagree with the description of what happened. How would you have written the headline? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:976743294] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Noname13 posted... </cite><quote>Is it though? To be immediately come out wanting to fight after speeding like that?</quote>Sorry wasn't sure what you mean by "it"? His past mistreatment by police/legal system?I'm not saying that the past injustice was the only factor in his response, just that when I think about how he acted it would definitely play a role.Patchwork posted... </cite><quote>He was choking a police officer and calling him a bitch when he was shot.Both of them almost went out onto the highway during the struggle, the taser had a minimal reaction and did not achieve a body lock-up, and there is zero reason why that officer would think this man was not trying to kill him at the moment shots were fired. The headline on that article was perfectly crafted to fan the flames.</quote>I don't disagree with the description of what happened. How would you have written the headline?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/19/23 10:50:12 AM #36:	DnDer posted... revenue generating incentives (in the form of tickets), lack of public funding that requires "revenue generation," I remember years ago there was a police strike in Western Australia. When they issued a statement in response, they made a point to comment on the "millions of dollars lost due to no tickets being issued." Which makes me think, if traffic infringements 100% stopped overnight, would the government announce "we are pleased with this result" while quietly seething "shit, there goes millions in revenue...?" Because we know they'd never dare admit they actually like that revenue. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976743428] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>revenue generating incentives (in the form of tickets), lack of public funding that requires "revenue generation,"</quote>I remember years ago there was a police strike in Western Australia. When they issued a statement in response, they made a point to comment on the "millions of dollars lost due to no tickets being issued."Which makes me think, if traffic infringements 100% stopped overnight, would the government announce "we are pleased with this result" while quietly seething "shit, there goes millions in revenue...?" Because we know they'd never dare admit they actually like that revenue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tora_Sami 10/19/23 7:08:26 PM #37:	Damn, that's super tragic. I understand the guy being afraid to go back to jail, but he did try choking out the cop. It's a tragedy. Side note, I wonder if that brinks driver is gonna get fired. They aren't allowed to leave their vehicle under any circumstances. --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:976752246] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Damn, that's super tragic. I understand the guy being afraid to go back to jail, but he did try choking out the cop. It's a tragedy. Side note, I wonder if that brinks driver is gonna get fired. They aren't allowed to leave their vehicle under any circumstances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/19/23 7:36:57 PM #38:	wtf, why was he getting pulled over? I would guess speeding if this is some other state, since in MA that's just normal driving. state cop in the middle lane is unheard of, they go 90 here. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976752666] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>wtf, why was he getting pulled over?I would guess speeding if this is some other state, since in MA that's just normal driving. state cop in the middle lane is unheard of, they go 90 here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 10/19/23 7:41:20 PM #39:	I watched the video and that guy was being an idiot. Try to fight a cop and he might shoot you. Sorry for the 16 years, but dont be stupid. --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:976752740] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>I watched the video and that guy was being an idiot. Try to fight a cop and he might shoot you. Sorry for the 16 years, but dont be stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tora_Sami 10/19/23 7:47:46 PM #40:	thronedfire2 posted... wtf, why was he getting pulled over? I would guess speeding if this is some other state, since in MA that's just normal driving. state cop in the middle lane is unheard of, they go 90 here. Apparently he was going 100mph+. Which would be considered reckless driving. Which is why he was gonna be arrested. --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:976752852] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>wtf, why was he getting pulled over?I would guess speeding if this is some other state, since in MA that's just normal driving. state cop in the middle lane is unheard of, they go 90 here.</quote>Apparently he was going 100mph+. Which would be considered reckless driving. Which is why he was gonna be arrested. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/19/23 7:48:17 PM #41:	Tora_Sami posted... Apparently he was going 100mph+. Which would be considered reckless driving. Which is why he was gonna be arrested. well that makes sense. it was hard to tell how fast people were going --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976752861] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Tora_Sami posted... </cite><quote>Apparently he was going 100mph+. Which would be considered reckless driving. Which is why he was gonna be arrested.</quote>well that makes sense. it was hard to tell how fast people were going </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TripleDouble 10/19/23 7:49:53 PM #42:	This is sad news but the thing about these articles on this board is just ends up spewing anti cop rhetoric. --- You're failing. So you blame congress, the president, you blame Greece. But if you looked in the mirror and blamed yourself, you wouldn't like it very much. <cite>TripleDouble posted [p:976752884] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>This is sad news but the thing about these articles on this board is just ends up spewing anti cop rhetoric. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/19/23 7:52:27 PM #43:	TripleDouble posted... This is sad news but the thing about these articles on this board is just ends up spewing anti cop rhetoric. usually because they execute people far too often --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976752916] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>TripleDouble posted... </cite><quote>This is sad news but the thing about these articles on this board is just ends up spewing anti cop rhetoric.</quote>usually because they execute people far too often </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patchwork 10/19/23 10:24:54 PM #44:	Ruvan22 posted... Sorry wasn't sure what you mean by "it"? His past mistreatment by police/legal system? I'm not saying that the past injustice was the only factor in his response, just that when I think about how he acted it would definitely play a role. I don't disagree with the description of what happened. How would you have written the headline? I wouldnt have led with the guys overturned conviction as the primary focus; it already paints the police as being in the wrong. Traffic Stop for Reckless Driving Leads to Fatal Altercation on Georgia Highway. Traffic Stop Turns Deadly. Highway Horror. Tragedy on {insert interstate} Etc. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. <cite>Patchwork posted [p:976755328] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>Sorry wasn't sure what you mean by "it"? His past mistreatment by police/legal system?I'm not saying that the past injustice was the only factor in his response, just that when I think about how he acted it would definitely play a role.I don't disagree with the description of what happened. How would you have written the headline?</quote>I wouldnt have led with the guys overturned conviction as the primary focus; it already paints the police as being in the wrong. Traffic Stop for Reckless Driving Leads to Fatal Altercation on Georgia Highway.Traffic Stop Turns Deadly.Highway Horror. Tragedy on {insert interstate}Etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/21/23 9:08:09 AM #45:	Patchwork posted... I wouldnt have led with the guys overturned conviction as the primary focus; it already paints the police as being in the wrong. Traffic Stop for Reckless Driving Leads to Fatal Altercation on Georgia Highway. Traffic Stop Turns Deadly. Highway Horror. Tragedy on {insert interstate} Etc. Hmm - I feel his past unfair (mild word) treatment is pretty relevant to the narrative (a component of his reaction), enough to be included somewhere in the headline. The headlines you suggested seem to go the other way (no differentiation with an event of a person that no bad interactions w/ police in the past). <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:976779158] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Patchwork posted... </cite><quote>I wouldnt have led with the guys overturned conviction as the primary focus; it already paints the police as being in the wrong. Traffic Stop for Reckless Driving Leads to Fatal Altercation on Georgia Highway.Traffic Stop Turns Deadly.Highway Horror. Tragedy on {insert interstate}Etc.</quote>Hmm - I feel his past unfair (mild word) treatment is pretty relevant to the narrative (a component of his reaction), enough to be included somewhere in the headline. The headlines you suggested seem to go the other way (no differentiation with an event of a person that no bad interactions w/ police in the past).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EyeWontBeFooled 10/21/23 12:52:33 PM #46:	Ruvan22 posted... Hmm - I feel his past unfair (mild word) treatment is pretty relevant to the narrative (a component of his reaction), enough to be included somewhere in the headline. The headlines you suggested seem to go the other way (no differentiation with an event of a person that no bad interactions w/ police in the past). But, he was never supposed to go to prison in the first place. Honestly, it would have been a lot more fair to him to leave the stint in prison out of it. --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! <cite>EyeWontBeFooled posted [p:976781845] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>Hmm - I feel his past unfair (mild word) treatment is pretty relevant to the narrative (a component of his reaction), enough to be included somewhere in the headline. The headlines you suggested seem to go the other way (no differentiation with an event of a person that no bad interactions w/ police in the past).</quote>But, he was never supposed to go to prison in the first place. Honestly, it would have been a lot more fair to him to leave the stint in prison out of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 10/21/23 1:00:17 PM #47:	runewalshPSiv posted... That dude 100% caused his own death. I'll never understand why people act like that with cops during a stop when you know it's not going to end well for you. Normally in a situation like this I would honestly give this some amount of weight as an argument. But if I spent as long as he did in prison for shit I didn't even do, I would honestly jump to the same sort of reaction. It's easy to think they're out to get you at every opportunity when you have proof they were in fact out to get you before. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:976781953] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>runewalshPSiv posted... </cite><quote>That dude 100% caused his own death. I'll never understand why people act like that with cops during a stop when you know it's not going to end well for you.</quote>Normally in a situation like this I would honestly give this some amount of weight as an argument.But if I spent as long as he did in prison for shit I didn't even do, I would honestly jump to the same sort of reaction. It's easy to think they're out to get you at every opportunity when you have proof they were in fact out to get you before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/21/23 1:02:06 PM #48:	Ruvan22 posted... Hmm - I feel his past unfair (mild word) treatment is pretty relevant to the narrative (a component of his reaction), enough to be included somewhere in the headline. The headlines you suggested seem to go the other way (no differentiation with an event of a person that no bad interactions w/ police in the past). Yeah, there's no way getting railroaded again wasn't in the back (if not the forefront) of his mind. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976781990] in Man impris... [t:80596231]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>Hmm - I feel his past unfair (mild word) treatment is pretty relevant to the narrative (a component of his reaction), enough to be included somewhere in the headline. The headlines you suggested seem to go the other way (no differentiation with an event of a person that no bad interactions w/ police in the past).</quote>Yeah, there's no way getting railroaded again wasn't in the back (if not the forefront) of his mind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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