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[deleted] 10/19/23 11:01:55 PM #3:	[deleted] <cite>[deleted] posted [p:976757888] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>[deleted]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tora_Sami 10/20/23 1:38:00 AM #1:	https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1715081990800658609 Dude makes some very good points. I feel this is the stance most people should take ass it is a very nuanced issue. Both sides have done wrong and you can condemn both while still siding with Palestine and Israeli citizens who are caught in the middle. --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:976757858] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1715081990800658609Dude makes some very good points. I feel this is the stance most people should take ass it is a very nuanced issue. Both sides have done wrong and you can condemn both while still siding with Palestine and Israeli citizens who are caught in the middle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/20/23 1:39:04 AM #2:	This is the guy who dismembered a critic, right? I don't think I really care to know what his opinion is. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:976757875] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>This is the guy who dismembered a critic, right? I don't think I really care to know what his opinion is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/20/23 1:43:40 AM #4:	FortuneCookie posted... This is the guy who dismembered a critic, right? I don't think I really care to know what his opinion is. No, that is Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, and it's still "allegedly". This is Turki bin Faisal Al Saud. There are hundreds of Saudi Prince. If it's bin Salman, they refer him as crown prince instead. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976757919] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>This is the guy who dismembered a critic, right? I don't think I really care to know what his opinion is.</quote>No, that is Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, and it's still "allegedly". This is Turki bin Faisal Al Saud.There are hundreds of Saudi Prince. If it's bin Salman, they refer him as crown prince instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/20/23 1:45:00 AM #5:	Ricemills posted... No, that is Mohammed bin Salman, and it's still "allegedly". This is Turki ibn Faisal. There are hundreds of Saudi Prince. If it's bin Salman, they refer him as crown prince instead. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry to have misidentified him. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:976757932] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>No, that is Mohammed bin Salman, and it's still "allegedly". This is Turki ibn Faisal.There are hundreds of Saudi Prince. If it's bin Salman, they refer him as crown prince instead.</quote>Thanks for clarifying.Sorry to have misidentified him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 10/20/23 1:54:32 AM #6:	I expected some weak form of "both sides" but this is about as strong as someone could put it. He's not wrong at all. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgWr3hNXPhk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:976758015] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>I expected some weak form of "both sides" but this is about as strong as someone could put it. He's not wrong at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/20/23 2:02:19 AM #7:	Ricemills posted... No, that is Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, and it's still "allegedly". It's only allegedly in Saudi Arabia. The rest of the world knows he did it. Maybe not personally but he gave the order to do it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976758077] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>No, that is Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, and it's still "allegedly".</quote>It's only allegedly in Saudi Arabia.The rest of the world knows he did it. Maybe not personally but he gave the order to do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 10/20/23 2:05:31 AM #8:	Oh this Prince is going to disappear, isnt he? --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:976758102] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Oh this Prince is going to disappear, isnt he? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/20/23 2:05:32 AM #9:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's only allegedly in Saudi Arabia. The rest of the world knows he did it. Maybe not personally but he gave the order to do it. I put the quotation mark on purpose, you know. It's legal status is still allegedly, but people has no doubt that he ordered it. On the other hand, the victim was not a mere journalist, but the son of a rival faction, the Khashoggi family. That's what makes me think that he really ordered it. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976758103] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It's only allegedly in Saudi Arabia.The rest of the world knows he did it. Maybe not personally but he gave the order to do it.</quote>I put the quotation mark on purpose, you know. It's legal status is still allegedly, but people has no doubt that he ordered it.On the other hand, the victim was not a mere journalist, but the son of a rival faction, the Khashoggi family. That's what makes me think that he really ordered it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/20/23 2:05:57 AM #10:	FortuneCookie posted... This is the guy who dismembered a critic, right? I don't think I really care to know what his opinion is. Even if it was that guy (which apparently it wasn't), he can still be right about this while being wrong about other things. It's just like how Putin is right to call for peace in Israel/Palestine despite the hypocrisy of doing so while waging war in Ukraine, it doesn't mean he's wrong about Israel and Palestine. Or in other words: The message is not invalid simply because of who said it. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976758110] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite><quote>This is the guy who dismembered a critic, right? I don't think I really care to know what his opinion is.</quote>Even if it was that guy (which apparently it wasn't), he can still be right about this while being wrong about other things. It's just like how Putin is right to call for peace in Israel/Palestine despite the hypocrisy of doing so while waging war in Ukraine, it doesn't mean he's wrong about Israel and Palestine.Or in other words: The message is not invalid simply because of who said it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 10/20/23 2:06:37 AM #11:	pnut027 posted... Oh this Prince is going to disappear, isnt he? Who knows, it's possible. The language he used to condemn Hamas was actually incredibly strong even if it didn't seem as such. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgWr3hNXPhk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:976758119] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>pnut027 posted... </cite><quote>Oh this Prince is going to disappear, isnt he?</quote>Who knows, it's possible. The language he used to condemn Hamas was actually incredibly strong even if it didn't seem as such. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/20/23 2:15:45 AM #12:	Trumble posted... Even if it was that guy (which apparently it wasn't), he can still be right about this while being wrong about other things. It's just like how Putin is right to call for peace in Israel/Palestine despite the hypocrisy of doing so while waging war in Ukraine, it doesn't mean he's wrong about Israel and Palestine. Or in other words: The message is not invalid simply because of who said it. Is a message invalidated because of who said it? Let me put it this way, I'm not taking advise from the person who said that the people of Israel were culpable for what their government had done. I remember very clearly you saying that 57% of the population supported their government as if that somehow meant that the other 43% deserved to suffer for it as well. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:976758197] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Even if it was that guy (which apparently it wasn't), he can still be right about this while being wrong about other things. It's just like how Putin is right to call for peace in Israel/Palestine despite the hypocrisy of doing so while waging war in Ukraine, it doesn't mean he's wrong about Israel and Palestine.Or in other words: The message is not invalid simply because of who said it.</quote>Is a message invalidated because of who said it?Let me put it this way, I'm not taking advise from the person who said that the people of Israel were culpable for what their government had done. I remember very clearly you saying that 57% of the population supported their government as if that somehow meant that the other 43% deserved to suffer for it as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 10/20/23 2:20:51 AM #13:	Well said. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:976758244] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Well said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/20/23 2:21:40 AM #14:	Vyrulisse posted... Who knows, it's possible. The language he used to condemn Hamas was actually incredibly strong even if it didn't seem as such. One thing to remember: Hamas is Iran's operatives, and Saudi hates Iran more than Israel. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976758251] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>Who knows, it's possible. The language he used to condemn Hamas was actually incredibly strong even if it didn't seem as such.</quote>One thing to remember:Hamas is Iran's operatives, and Saudi hates Iran more than Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revisited 10/20/23 2:23:35 AM #15:	It kinda is. If a multi-billionaire with a billion dollars in cold hard cash is like "people should donate more often" then yeah fuck that guy, when that kinda wealth could solve the world's problems and still accrue more wealth for him in terms of society's betterment as whole. So while usually ad hominem argument is wrong, it kinda sorta still applies on some level <cite>Revisited posted [p:976758267] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>It kinda is. If a multi-billionaire with a billion dollars in cold hard cash is like "people should donate more often" then yeah fuck that guy, when that kinda wealth could solve the world's problems and still accrue more wealth for him in terms of society's betterment as whole. So while usually ad hominem argument is wrong, it kinda sorta still applies on some level </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 10/20/23 2:28:27 AM #16:	Revisited posted... It kinda is. If a multi-billionaire with a billion dollars in cold hard cash is like "people should donate more often" then yeah fuck that guy, when that kinda wealth could solve the world's problems and still accrue more wealth for him in terms of society's betterment as whole. I mean, a lot of the big name billionaire's fork over cash to charity pretty often. Buffet, Gates etc. Not everyone is a fuck fondler like Elon. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:976758308] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Revisited posted... </cite><quote>It kinda is. If a multi-billionaire with a billion dollars in cold hard cash is like "people should donate more often" then yeah fuck that guy, when that kinda wealth could solve the world's problems and still accrue more wealth for him in terms of society's betterment as whole.</quote>I mean, a lot of the big name billionaire's fork over cash to charity pretty often. Buffet, Gates etc.Not everyone is a fuck fondler like Elon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 10/20/23 6:12:29 AM #17:	Vyrulisse posted... I expected some weak form of "both sides" but this is about as strong as someone could put it. He's not wrong at all. I mean, this is one of the few issues that is both sides (though both sides is definitely a simplification) --- this lie is love and this lie is a gift to the world <cite>teep_ posted [p:976759601] in Saudi prin... [t:80598185]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>I expected some weak form of "both sides" but this is about as strong as someone could put it. He's not wrong at all.</quote>I mean, this is one of the few issues that is both sides (though both sides is definitely a simplification) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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