Current Events > My professor isnt grading last two questions of Midterm due to ChatGPT

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It is Computer Science 101. Midterm was meant to be 50 short answer questions worth 1 point. And then 2 programs worth 25 points each. He thinks people used ChatGPT on those questions to cheat due to 10 people having the same answer while grading. And kind of rage quit grading the rest.

Here is a part of the email as proof in case CE thinks I am making it up since I know many on CE graduated a long time ago.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/7/AAXQRuAAE9M5.png

lecturers/professors are already underpaid and undervalued and now they gotta deal with this shit

Rika_Furude posted...

lecturers/professors are already underpaid and undervalued and now they gotta deal with this shit

dont forget the primary and high school teachers.

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This is a zoom class. I don't know what other students say. But it is likely someone admitted they used ChatGPT in a 1 on 1 with the professor. Or maybe he used ChatGPT himself and got the answer the other students put down.

BlueTigerLion posted...

maybe he used ChatGPT himself and got the answer the other students put down.

i gotta go with the teacher on this one. student used ChatGPT and not teacher.
penalty for the 10 who used it.

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If your professor isn't grading the last two questions of a midterm exam due to issues related to ChatGPT, it could be for various reasons. Perhaps they believe that students may have used the model to obtain answers, thereby compromising the integrity of the exam. Alternatively, there could be concerns about the fairness or validity of those questions for some other reason related to ChatGPT.
If you're not sure why this decision was made, the best course of action would be to communicate directly with your professor to get clarification. Keep in mind that academic policies and rules can vary, so understanding the specific reason can help you and your classmates adapt accordingly for future assessments.

Should be treated as extra credit questions imo

NGL I'm glad I got out of college right as GPT became popular.

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If people were submitting versions of the assignment that were assigned to others, thats already evidence of cheating

as for the thing with enumerate, its likely some people just went to Google and found that the enumerate function did exactly what they needed. The professor could have said not to use it I guess. But when he says I doubt most students understood it, I think the professor is dealing with absolute beginner level students who wouldnt understand how to use that function yet or the students were just dumb. Anyway, the professor themselves has more insight and I would believe them over the students

CreepyGuy2007 posted...

If your professor isn't grading the last two questions of a midterm exam due to issues related to ChatGPT, it could be for various reasons. Perhaps they believe that students may have used the model to obtain answers, thereby compromising the integrity of the exam. Alternatively, there could be concerns about the fairness or validity of those questions for some other reason related to ChatGPT.
If you're not sure why this decision was made, the best course of action would be to communicate directly with your professor to get clarification. Keep in mind that academic policies and rules can vary, so understanding the specific reason can help you and your classmates adapt accordingly for future assessments.

I'm making this topic before we even see the professor. We don't have another session until Monday. This ChatGPT cheating thing kinda benefited me since I likely didnt do well on those two questions anway. So I went from having in the 70-80 range to now having a 94 on the midterm worth 33% of grade.

Doe posted...

NGL I'm glad I got out of college right as GPT became popular.

I'm down to my last 4 classes and I worry it will fuck me over before I finish.

Kradek posted...

I worry it will fuck me before I finish.

it's fate if we're fucked over between now and after those tests.

Kradek posted...

I'm down to my last 4 classes and I worry it will fuck me over before I finish.

I still have two more semesters. It is unfortunate to see so many of my professors upset that they aren't sure if students are actually learning.

BlueTigerLion posted...

I'm making this topic before we even see the professor. We don't have another session until Monday. This ChatGPT cheating thing kinda benefited me since I likely didnt do well on those two questions anway. So I went from having in the 70-80 range to now having a 94 on the midterm worth 33% of grade.

You're literally responding to a post written by ChatGPT dude

BlueTigerLion posted...

I still have two more semesters. It is unfortunate to see so many of my professors upset that they aren't sure if students are actually learning.

There's definitely going to have to be a shift in education. Smaller class sizes and more oral examinations would help. Instead go spend a week writing this report, use what resources you have available to prepare and then you stand in front of me and show me what you know and what you can do.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

You're literally responding to a post written by ChatGPT dude

Oh my bad. I thought CE still had real users. Didn't know there were bots here or those that submit their responses to topics from ChatGPT.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Oh my bad. I thought CE still had real users. Didn't know there were bots here or those that submit their responses to topics from ChatGPT.

Some people think it's clever, I guess.

People are so fuckin lazy they can't do their own school work. I understand making things easier, but it you just want AI to do it for you why even waste the time and money?

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Some people think it's clever, I guess.

Yea. I mainly made this thread on GameFAQs and not r/college since I know most 18-21 year olds dont come here so odds of them or even the professor seeing this thread are slim.

R_Jackal posted...

People are so fuckin lazy they can't do their own school work. I understand making things easier, but it you just want AI to do it for you why even waste the time and money?

There are situations in my English class where it comes off as ChatGPT was used for a 1 paragraph read and response homework. It is really sad. It probably takes 5 minutes to read and 5-10 minutes to type response and they still cheat.

I mean, that's such a basic level of assignment (I mean, it's the beginning of computer science 101, so of course it's basic) that every single google search should provide you dozens of different ways to do it too.

That's not even supposed to be a ChatGPT issue.

Karovorak posted...

I mean, that's such a basic level of assignment (I mean, it's the beginning of computer science 101, so of course it's basic) that every single google search should provide you dozens of different ways to do it too.

That's not even supposed to be a ChatGPT issue.

I didnt copy the entire email but professor said this was his first zoom class since ChatGPT was created. I wasn't around CS classes before but I am guessing the cheating didn't involve the higher level concepts. Or whatever it was that cause professor to rage at enumerate being used. I don't know what enumerate does so no idea what professor issue with it is.

BlueTigerLion posted...

There are situations in my English class where it comes of as ChatGPT was used for a 1 paragraph read and response homework. It is really sad. It probably takes 5 minutes to read and 5-10 minutes to type response and they still cheat.

Not a teacher, but I'm self taught in...a lot of things because I like learning stuff when I get bored, so I try to help people where I can since it provides me an opportunity too if I can't figure it out. I constantly catch the people I try to help using CGPT to the point where they put more work and time in to not doing the most basic work themselves that it would actually be easier to just do it themselves and evaluate if it were wrong or not on their own. I just can't comprehend it.

He should grade them and people that have the same answers should be turned in for cheating and have to deal with the consequences. If that means getting a ton of people potentially expelled for cheating, so be it.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

You're literally responding to a post written by ChatGPT dude

This smh

You should inform him that 5here are several programs available that can help determine if something was generated by AI. But also inform him that they can sometimes give false positives if the writer is an ESL.

R_Jackal posted...

Not a teacher, but I'm self taught in...a lot of things because I like learning stuff when I get bored, so I try to help people where I can since it provides me an opportunity too if I can't figure it out. I constantly catch the people I try to help using CGPT to the point where they put more work and time in to not doing the most basic work themselves that it would actually be easier to just do it themselves and evaluate if it were wrong or not on their own. I just can't comprehend it.

Im not a teacher either. Class participation in writing classes involves reading other people work and then responding. While I am not grading their work I am still seeing what other students write and they have similar sentences. It is really obvious in more controversial questions. One homework was do you think Dag Hammarskjld was assassinated. And majority of responses tipped toed around saying yes or no. It was it is hotly debated, questionable, not enough evidence. Which sounds like what Chat GPT says with controversial questions.

R_Jackal posted...

People are so fuckin lazy they can't do their own school work. I understand making things easier, but it you just want AI to do it for you why even waste the time and money?

The owner class are going to do this very thing sooner or later (jettison their workforce and let AI make their money instead), so if anything the students doing it now are just ahead of the curve.

Dark_Arbron posted...

The owner class are going to jettison their employees and let AI make their money for them eventually, so if anything the students are getting ahead of the curve.

And when that happens they'll have no actual skills or knowledge to fall back on themselves.

ArtiRock posted...

He should grade them and people that have the same answers should be turned in for cheating and have to deal with the consequences. If that means getting a ton of people potentially expelled for cheating, so be it.

He had originally said he was going to give everyone a zero on the Midterm which is worth 33% of grade. But something happened between then and yesterday that he said he just wont grade those two questions.

No else has said this but it is likely people cheated on the short answer and multiple choice questions as well. A google search brings up the answer on Quizlet. If the students used ChatGPT on the last 2 questions they likely used it the entire test. It just the programs made it more obvious to professor with whatever he saw when grading.

Dark_Arbron posted...

The owner class are going to do this very thing sooner or later (jettison their workforce and let AI make their money instead), so if anything the students doing it now are just ahead of the curve.

Another answer I just realized was to just inflate their GPA and get their degree. If you can cheat your way to a 4.0 GPA and not get caught those students are attempting it.

It's kind of like you ask the class what a "denominator" is, and no one knows so you explain it.

Then, those same ppl claim to be doing advanced calc functions out of nowhere.

That said, if a test can be solved by chatgpt, it's not a very good test.

The future of math class will be more like: you are assigned a lesson to teach the entire class, and a date on which you have to teach it.

Kai_Laguna posted...

You should inform him that 5here are several programs available that can help determine if something was generated by AI. But also inform him that they can sometimes give false positives if the writer is an ESL.

I wouldn't bother mentioning these. I'm not ESL and I've tested old school work of mine and some of that came back as a false positive. Also it's not hard to manipulate it into writing something that sounds human and gets a false negative.

Google would have done basically the same thing, this just comes off as whiny.