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IdiotMachine 10/21/23 6:33:19 AM #1:	Lots of anti-Israel, pro-Palestine (and some pro-Hamas) protests in major cities, and now even Greta Thunberg is advocating for a free Palestine / Gaza. I would have never saw that coming. --- https://i.imgur.com/XNEdLrJ.png <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:976778039] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Lots of anti-Israel, pro-Palestine (and some pro-Hamas) protests in major cities, and now even Greta Thunberg is advocating for a free Palestine / Gaza. I would have never saw that coming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/21/23 6:34:30 AM #2:	Because Israel is an apartheid state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid But "liberals are against Israel" is really not a blanket true statement. At least in terms of US congress there is total bipartisan support for aid to Israel. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976778044] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Because Israel is an apartheid state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheidBut "liberals are against Israel" is really not a blanket true statement. At least in terms of US congress there is total bipartisan support for aid to Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
B18Champ 10/21/23 6:36:09 AM #3:	Because Republicans have historically been close allies with Israel, so liberals have to take the opposite approach and be close allies with Palestine. --- Freedom, "that terrible word inscribed upon the chariot of the storm," <cite>B18Champ posted [p:976778056] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Because Republicans have historically been close allies with Israel, so liberals have to take the opposite approach and be close allies with Palestine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 10/21/23 6:39:07 AM #4:	B18Champ posted... Because Republicans have historically been close allies with Israel, so liberals have to take the opposite approach and be close allies with Palestine. Projection --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:976778070] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>B18Champ posted... </cite><quote>Because Republicans have historically been close allies with Israel, so liberals have to take the opposite approach and be close allies with Palestine.</quote>Projection </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 10/21/23 6:41:04 AM #5:	It can be argued that liberals have always been anti fascism, and would naturally fall on that side of the argument. And its more anti Israeli government and pro Palestinian people, rather than a blanket hatred for the former and love for the latter. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at a ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:976778079] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>It can be argued that liberals have always been anti fascism, and would naturally fall on that side of the argument. And its more anti Israeli government and pro Palestinian people, rather than a blanket hatred for the former and love for the latter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeesMcGees 10/21/23 6:41:53 AM #6:	Doe posted... Because Israel is an apartheid state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheid But "liberals are against Israel" is really not a blanket true statement. At least in terms of US congress there is total bipartisan support for aid to Israel. This In the USA, most elected officials support Israel. For people who have no consequences politically, there's support for Palestinians because how they're treated by Israel. Think about this, in the USA, a person (usually) learns that the colonizers ruined the lives for the peoples already there. Why wouldn't the same logic apply in other parts of the world, especially when the consequences are clear and present? Living near Little Palestine, I am undoubtedly influenced by my neighbors' plight in their homeland. <cite>VeesMcGees posted [p:976778085] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Because Israel is an apartheid state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_apartheidBut "liberals are against Israel" is really not a blanket true statement. At least in terms of US congress there is total bipartisan support for aid to Israel.</quote>ThisIn the USA, most elected officials support Israel. For people who have no consequences politically, there's support for Palestinians because how they're treated by Israel. Think about this, in the USA, a person (usually) learns that the colonizers ruined the lives for the peoples already there. Why wouldn't the same logic apply in other parts of the world, especially when the consequences are clear and present? Living near Little Palestine, I am undoubtedly influenced by my neighbors' plight in their homeland. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpoiltTrouser 10/21/23 6:47:52 AM #7:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/1/AAczCnAAE9TD.jpg --- http://imgur.com/udfhqN6 ayy lmao <cite>SpoiltTrouser posted [p:976778124] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/1/AAczCnAAE9TD.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZaruenKosai 10/21/23 6:48:37 AM #8:	It's quite simple, and juicy, you won't believe it, it's a secret that will make you go NO WAY! So you see, the reason why the liberals are agains Israel is because of the following reason. Are you ready for the juicy secret? So The reason Is because You're a liar. Liberals are not against Israel, they are against Netanyus Fascist Regime and his Bully IDF Force. They do not support Hamas, they support the innocent people of Palestine that are caught in the crossfire of a war between two batshit insane power thirsty war mongers. They do not condone any terrorists attack conducted by hamas, and supporting the innocents of Palestine does not make any one a Hamas Supporter or Terrorist Sympathizer. That is just a tactic used by IDF shills to attack anyone who doesnt kiss their feet. --- RTX 3080 - i9 10850k - LFII 360mm - Enthoo 719/Luxe 2 + 7 140mm ARGB Fans - Z490P - 850w + Plat - 120 Inch Epson 5050UB + QN90NB + Q90R <cite>ZaruenKosai posted [p:976778131] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>It's quite simple, and juicy, you won't believe it, it's a secret that will make you go NO WAY!So you see, the reason why the liberals are agains Israel is because of the following reason.Are you ready for the juicy secret?SoThereasonIsbecauseYou're a liar.Liberals are not against Israel, they are against Netanyus Fascist Regime and his Bully IDF Force.They do not support Hamas, they support the innocent people of Palestine that are caught in the crossfire of a war between two batshit insane power thirsty war mongers.They do not condone any terrorists attack conducted by hamas, and supporting the innocents of Palestine does not make any one a Hamas Supporter or Terrorist Sympathizer.That is just a tactic used by IDF shills to attack anyone who doesnt kiss their feet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 10/21/23 6:50:49 AM #9:	Israel is using Hamas as an excuse to massacre innocents by the thousands --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:976778145] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Israel is using Hamas as an excuse to massacre innocents by the thousands </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 10/21/23 6:54:45 AM #10:	https://www.tiktok.com/@hotspotmedia/video/7292103233655344414?_r=1&_t=8ggnBD2LWxZ Posting this again. Anyone that supports Israel after they come out with statements like this is pure fucking evil or they're ignorant. Which one are you? --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:976778163] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>https://www.tiktok.com/@hotspotmedia/video/7292103233655344414?_r=1&_t=8ggnBD2LWxZPosting this again. Anyone that supports Israel after they come out with statements like this is pure fucking evil or they're ignorant. Which one are you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CreepyGuy2007 10/21/23 6:55:29 AM #11:	TC living up to his name <cite>CreepyGuy2007 posted [p:976778168] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>TC living up to his name</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/21/23 6:58:54 AM #12:	Liberals have always been on Palestine's side I remember in the 2000's my classmates often put up things around in support of them. --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:976778189] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Liberals have always been on Palestine's sideI remember in the 2000's my classmates often put up things around in support of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gu-gohan 10/21/23 7:25:56 AM #13:	Chicken posted... Israel is using Hamas as an excuse to massacre innocents by the thousands And why would they want that? Innocent civilians from Israel and other countries have been massacred by Hamas two weeks ago. Israel has the duty to protect the people within their borders. If the danger of Hamas arises from within Gaza, it should at the very least be somewhat understandable that they try to locate and eliminate the terrorists. In contrast to what Hamas did, Israel at least tries to avoid civil casualties. My point is: Stop brainwashing yourself by consuming one-sided, unreputable media. This conflict is complex. It can't be divided in a "good" vs. "bad" side. Both have made mistakes in the past. And Netanyahu is definitely a figure that should be removed from power. On the other hand, Israels difficult situation on the Arabian peninsula and the historic worldwide suppression of jews should at least be understood and considered before taking such an extreme stance like certain people here. Innocent civilians must be protected, yes, but that applies to all of them, regardless of whether they're from Palestine or from Israel. And terrorist organizations like Hamas can't be allowed to exist, because they threaten the life's of innocents. Of course, this also applies to politicians. Israel can do better than elect someone like Netanyahu, that I'm sure of. This world needs more mutual understanding and deescalation, not people who fuel the flames by spreading fake news, fake graphics or look at situations just from one perspective. --- Like: videogames, peaceful discussions, open-minded people Dislike: console wars, trolls, haters, review-bombing, bias <cite>gu-gohan posted [p:976778351] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Chicken posted... </cite><quote>Israel is using Hamas as an excuse to massacre innocents by the thousands</quote>And why would they want that?Innocent civilians from Israel and other countries have been massacred by Hamas two weeks ago. Israel has the duty to protect the people within their borders. If the danger of Hamas arises from within Gaza, it should at the very least be somewhat understandable that they try to locate and eliminate the terrorists. In contrast to what Hamas did, Israel at least tries to avoid civil casualties.My point is:Stop brainwashing yourself by consuming one-sided, unreputable media.This conflict is complex. It can't be divided in a "good" vs. "bad" side. Both have made mistakes in the past. And Netanyahu is definitely a figure that should be removed from power. On the other hand, Israels difficult situation on the Arabian peninsula and the historic worldwide suppression of jews should at least be understood and considered before taking such an extreme stance like certain people here.Innocent civilians must be protected, yes, but that applies to all of them, regardless of whether they're from Palestine or from Israel. And terrorist organizations like Hamas can't be allowed to exist, because they threaten the life's of innocents. Of course, this also applies to politicians. Israel can do better than elect someone like Netanyahu, that I'm sure of.This world needs more mutual understanding and deescalation, not people who fuel the flames by spreading fake news, fake graphics or look at situations just from one perspective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 10/21/23 7:29:09 AM #14:	gu-gohan posted... one-sided, unreputable media. This conflict is complex. It can't be divided in a "good" vs. "bad" side. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/9/2/AAfg3pAAE6Wo.jpg literally shut the fuck up --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:976778378] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>gu-gohan posted... </cite><quote>one-sided, unreputable media.This conflict is complex. It can't be divided in a "good" vs. "bad" side.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/9/2/AAfg3pAAE6Wo.jpg literally shut the fuck up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 10/21/23 7:29:45 AM #15:	I'm against the treatment the Palestinians are receiving from the Israeli government. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:976778382] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>I'm against the treatment the Palestinians are receiving from the Israeli government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 7:31:12 AM #16:	gu-gohan posted... Israel has the duty to protect the people within their borders. The people they subject to apartheid not withstanding. gu-gohan posted... Israel can do better than elect someone like Netanyahu, that I'm sure of. Israel's 75 year-long history of human rights abuses didn't start with Netanyahu. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778391] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>gu-gohan posted... </cite><quote>Israel has the duty to protect the people within their borders.</quote>The people they subject to apartheid not withstanding.gu-gohan posted... </cite><quote>Israel can do better than elect someone like Netanyahu, that I'm sure of.</quote>Israel's 75 year-long history of human rights abuses didn't start with Netanyahu. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 10/21/23 7:35:29 AM #17:	Chicken posted... https://www.tiktok.com/@hotspotmedia/video/7292103233655344414?_r=1&_t=8ggnBD2LWxZ Posting this again. Anyone that supports Israel after they come out with statements like this is pure fucking evil or they're ignorant. Which one are you? Ive no doubt there are people who think this but I always cautious when you read translated videos like this because you are assuming whomever translated it is being 100% accurate. <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:976778420] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Chicken posted... </cite><quote>https://www.tiktok.com/@hotspotmedia/video/7292103233655344414?_r=1&_t=8ggnBD2LWxZPosting this again. Anyone that supports Israel after they come out with statements like this is pure fucking evil or they're ignorant. Which one are you?</quote>Ive no doubt there are people who think this but I always cautious when you read translated videos like this because you are assuming whomever translated it is being 100% accurate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tankboy 10/21/23 7:36:45 AM #18:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory <cite>tankboy posted [p:976778429] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/21/23 7:37:59 AM #19:	tankboy posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory Horseshoe theory is horseshit. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976778436] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>tankboy posted... </cite><quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory</quote>Horseshoe theory is horseshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tankboy 10/21/23 7:39:49 AM #20:	DnDer posted... Horseshoe theory is horseshit. Okay, fine, there's some Purity Spiral mixed in. <cite>tankboy posted [p:976778455] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Horseshoe theory is horseshit.</quote>Okay, fine, there's some Purity Spiral mixed in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rags_alt 10/21/23 7:45:41 AM #21:	DnDer posted... Horseshoe theory is horseshit. You're actually a pretty damn good example of it in my experience. As for the topic, I'm pretty liberal and I'm just on the side of people that don't wanna be bombed. In that conflict, world wide... <cite>rags_alt posted [p:976778493] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Horseshoe theory is horseshit.</quote>You're actually a pretty damn good example of it in my experience.As for the topic, I'm pretty liberal and I'm just on the side of people that don't wanna be bombed. In that conflict, world wide...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 10/21/23 7:47:08 AM #22:	B18Champ posted... Because Republicans have historically been close allies with Israel, so liberals have to take the opposite approach and be close allies with Palestine. support of israel has historically been bipartisan in the beltway. "on the ground," however, israel commands more support among republican voters due to evangelical influences, while palestine commands more support among democrat voters due to midcentury thirdworldlist influences. the former influence is going to be found in churches, the latter in academia, which significantly inform their respective values. --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:976778508] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>B18Champ posted... </cite><quote>Because Republicans have historically been close allies with Israel, so liberals have to take the opposite approach and be close allies with Palestine.</quote>support of israel has historically been bipartisan in the beltway. "on the ground," however, israel commands more support among republican voters due to evangelical influences, while palestine commands more support among democrat voters due to midcentury thirdworldlist influences. the former influence is going to be found in churches, the latter in academia, which significantly inform their respective values. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KI_Simpson 10/21/23 7:47:44 AM #23:	I'm sure the people insisting horseshoe theory is real are completely capable of giving some examples of liberal positions that are as hateful mainstream conservative positions. --- They/them <cite>KI_Simpson posted [p:976778515] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure the people insisting horseshoe theory is real are completely capable of giving some examples of liberal positions that are as hateful mainstream conservative positions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 7:48:39 AM #24:	TheMikh posted... support of israel has historically been bipartisan in the beltway. "on the ground," however, israel commands more support among republican voters due to evangelical influences, while palestine commands more support among democrat voters due to midcentury thirdworldlist influences. It's quite possibly the only bipartisan issue in US politics. Wait, no, zero regulation for corporations is the other one. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778520] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite><quote>support of israel has historically been bipartisan in the beltway. "on the ground," however, israel commands more support among republican voters due to evangelical influences, while palestine commands more support among democrat voters due to midcentury thirdworldlist influences.</quote>It's quite possibly the only bipartisan issue in US politics.Wait, no, zero regulation for corporations is the other one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/21/23 7:52:32 AM #25:	rags_alt posted... You're actually a pretty damn good example of it in my experience. Uh-huh. Sure. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976778549] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>rags_alt posted... </cite><quote>You're actually a pretty damn good example of it in my experience.</quote>Uh-huh. Sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rags_alt 10/21/23 7:53:28 AM #26:	DnDer posted... Uh-huh. Sure. Rittenhouse. <cite>rags_alt posted [p:976778557] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Uh-huh. Sure.</quote>Rittenhouse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 10/21/23 7:54:49 AM #27:	Biden seems to be given Israel more support than the GQP is. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976778568] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Biden seems to be given Israel more support than the GQP is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/21/23 7:55:11 AM #28:	rags_alt posted... Rittenhouse. What about him? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:976778573] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>rags_alt posted... </cite><quote>Rittenhouse.</quote>What about him? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rags_alt 10/21/23 7:55:50 AM #29:	DnDer posted... What about him? You tell me. <cite>rags_alt posted [p:976778576] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>What about him?</quote>You tell me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 10/21/23 7:56:31 AM #30:	Dark_Arbron posted... Wait, no, zero regulation for corporations is the other one. republicans = tax and regulation cuts for large corporations democrats = more complex tax codes and regulatory barriers to entry that only large corporations have the resources to navigate and exploit so kinda --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:976778582] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Wait, no, zero regulation for corporations is the other one.</quote>republicans = tax and regulation cuts for large corporationsdemocrats = more complex tax codes and regulatory barriers to entry that only large corporations have the resources to navigate and exploitso kinda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 7:57:26 AM #31:	DnDer posted... What about him? rags_alt posted... You tell me. Let me guess, taking Rittenhouse to task for his actions "isn't fair." --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778593] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>What about him?</quote>rags_alt posted... </cite><quote>You tell me.</quote>Let me guess, taking Rittenhouse to task for his actions "isn't fair." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 7:58:19 AM #32:	TheMikh posted... republicans = tax and regulation cuts for large corporations democrats = more complex tax codes and regulatory barriers to entry that only large corporations have the resources to navigate and exploit so kinda Yeah, those details make more sense. My point was that the rich never seem to be held accountable under either party. It's one case where "same thing both sides" really is the case - although as always the Republicans find a way to be worse. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778601] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite><quote>republicans = tax and regulation cuts for large corporationsdemocrats = more complex tax codes and regulatory barriers to entry that only large corporations have the resources to navigate and exploitso kinda</quote>Yeah, those details make more sense. My point was that the rich never seem to be held accountable under either party. It's one case where "same thing both sides" really is the case - although as always the Republicans find a way to be worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rags_alt 10/21/23 7:59:57 AM #33:	Dark_Arbron posted... Let me guess, taking Rittenhouse to task for his actions "isn't fair." Oh no, it is. I just think dnder has a.. specific way of going about it. <cite>rags_alt posted [p:976778611] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Let me guess, taking Rittenhouse to task for his actions "isn't fair."</quote>Oh no, it is. I just think dnder has a.. specific way of going about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 8:00:31 AM #34:	rags_alt posted... Oh no, it is. I just think dnder has a.. specific way of going about it. Well, that's not what I was expecting. Carry on, people. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778615] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>rags_alt posted... </cite><quote>Oh no, it is. I just think dnder has a.. specific way of going about it.</quote>Well, that's not what I was expecting.Carry on, people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 10/21/23 8:06:07 AM #35:	Liberals pretend to be against stuff like apartheid and colonialism, so it makes sense. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:976778662] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Liberals pretend to be against stuff like apartheid and colonialism, so it makes sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 10/21/23 8:08:11 AM #36:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Liberals pretend to be against stuff like apartheid and colonialism, so it makes sense. Or they're actually against it. Shocking I know. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:976778672] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Liberals pretend to be against stuff like apartheid and colonialism, so it makes sense.</quote>Or they're actually against it. Shocking I know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 10/21/23 8:08:17 AM #37:	Originally I did support Israel but the more and more I see the evidence then it's clear Israel has become a fascist, extreme apartheid state resorting to bombing of innocent people, including women and children --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:976778673] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Originally I did support Israel but the more and more I see the evidence then it's clear Israel has become a fascist, extreme apartheid state resorting to bombing of innocent people, including women and children </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 8:09:42 AM #38:	Is this where we get into a debate about "liberal vs left-wing vs classical liberal vs neoliberal?" Because that's kinda why I don't describe myself with a label. I'm almost entirely left-leaning, but I don't even know (or care) anymore if that makes me "liberal." --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778684] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Is this where we get into a debate about "liberal vs left-wing vs classical liberal vs neoliberal?"Because that's kinda why I don't describe myself with a label. I'm almost entirely left-leaning, but I don't even know (or care) anymore if that makes me "liberal." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/21/23 8:11:04 AM #39:	Name a liberal in power who is against Israel. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:976778694] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Name a liberal in power who is against Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NittanyLions23 10/21/23 8:11:49 AM #40:	Intro2Logic posted... Name a liberal in power who is against Israel. Name a conservative in power, who is against Israel. <cite>NittanyLions23 posted [p:976778699] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite><quote>Name a liberal in power who is against Israel.</quote>Name a conservative in power, who is against Israel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 10/21/23 8:12:14 AM #41:	Takuya_Lee posted... Or they're actually against it. Shocking I know. But they aren't actually against it, or else they'd be against capitalism too. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:976778706] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Takuya_Lee posted... </cite><quote>Or they're actually against it. Shocking I know.</quote>But they aren't actually against it, or else they'd be against capitalism too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/21/23 8:13:11 AM #42:	NittanyLions23 posted... Name a conservative in power, who is against Israel. I couldn't. But that's a total non-sequitur from the point I'm making. This topic pre-supposes that liberals are against Israel. But take a look at the liberals leading our government: are they against Israel? Are the liberals in the UK or Germany or France against Israel? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:976778711] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>NittanyLions23 posted... </cite><quote>Name a conservative in power, who is against Israel.</quote>I couldn't. But that's a total non-sequitur from the point I'm making. This topic pre-supposes that liberals are against Israel. But take a look at the liberals leading our government: are they against Israel? Are the liberals in the UK or Germany or France against Israel? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/21/23 8:13:51 AM #43:	IceCreamOnStero posted... But they aren't actually against it, or else they'd be against capitalism too. I'm anti-capitalist too. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976778716] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>But they aren't actually against it, or else they'd be against capitalism too.</quote>I'm anti-capitalist too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 10/21/23 8:14:27 AM #44:	Dark_Arbron posted... I'm anti-capitalist too. Liberalism as an ideology isn't. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:976778720] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>I'm anti-capitalist too.</quote>Liberalism as an ideology isn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Technician_X 10/21/23 8:17:25 AM #45:	TheMikh posted... support of israel has historically been bipartisan in the beltway. "on the ground," however, israel commands more support among republican voters due to evangelical influences, while palestine commands more support among democrat voters due to midcentury thirdworldlist influences. the former influence is going to be found in churches, the latter in academia, which significantly inform their respective values. Historically, I agree but in recent times I would argue that the traditional Republican support of Israel has shown significant cracks. The right is desperately trying to paint the entire left as anti-semitic when all it really does is put a spotlight on their own. The mainstreaming of Qanon conspiracies for one, most of which are deeply anti-semitic. Multiple sitting Republicans that can't stop gushing about Hitler. Trump himself dropping "blood and soil" quotes right out of his copy of Mein Kampf, and also going on frequent rants questioning the loyalty of Jews, etc. <cite>Technician_X posted [p:976778746] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite><quote>support of israel has historically been bipartisan in the beltway. "on the ground," however, israel commands more support among republican voters due to evangelical influences, while palestine commands more support among democrat voters due to midcentury thirdworldlist influences. the former influence is going to be found in churches, the latter in academia, which significantly inform their respective values.</quote>Historically, I agree but in recent times I would argue that the traditional Republican support of Israel has shown significant cracks. The right is desperately trying to paint the entire left as anti-semitic when all it really does is put a spotlight on their own. The mainstreaming of Qanon conspiracies for one, most of which are deeply anti-semitic. Multiple sitting Republicans that can't stop gushing about Hitler. Trump himself dropping "blood and soil" quotes right out of his copy of Mein Kampf, and also going on frequent rants questioning the loyalty of Jews, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/21/23 8:20:20 AM #46:	Technician_X posted... Anti-Semitism is not at odds with support for Israel! Jewish people and the Israeli government are separate categories and conflating the two is a mistake. White nationalists are entirely happy to give them an ethno-state. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:976778767] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Technician_X posted... </cite><quote></quote>Anti-Semitism is not at odds with support for Israel! Jewish people and the Israeli government are separate categories and conflating the two is a mistake. White nationalists are entirely happy to give them an ethno-state. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/21/23 8:38:41 AM #47:	OP, who is pro Hamas? Even the people of Palestine aren't pro Hamas going by polls. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:976778911] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>OP, who is pro Hamas? Even the people of Palestine aren't pro Hamas going by polls. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 10/21/23 8:42:00 AM #48:	Free Palestine does not mean anti-israel This is trolling <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:976778933] in How come l... [t:80599151]...</cite> <quote>Free Palestine does not mean anti-israelThis is trolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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