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UnfairRepresent 10/21/23 11:58:14 AM #1: |
The five appellants engaged in sadomasochistic sexual acts, consenting to the harm which they received; whilst their conviction also covered alike harm against others, they sought as a minimum to have their mutually consented acts to be viewed as lawful. None of the five men complained of any of the acts in which they were involved, which were uncovered by an unrelated police investigation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Brown Basically arguing that BDSM shit is so cruel and unusual that it doesn't matter whether you consented to it or not. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 10/21/23 12:09:24 PM #2: |
We had a similar trail regarding this about a judge and his wife back in the 90s. Even got made into a movie in the early 2000s. Basically she was very into it and requested of him to go to further extremes to the point of having her genitals sewn shut and weird stuff like that. He was found guilty of assault and battery and is no longer a judge. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sauceje 10/21/23 12:11:47 PM #3: |
TheSavageDragon posted...
We had a similar trail regarding this about a judge and his wife back in the 90s. Even got made into a movie in the early 2000s.jesus they went a bit too far there imo but I dont think the law should prevent or forbid something happening between four walls in which all parties involved are consenting adults --- He was born in a coop, raised in a cage, children fear him, critics rage, He's half alive, he's half dead, folks just call him Buckethead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 10/21/23 12:15:52 PM #4: |
Yeah, the law states that you cannot consent to death or serious injury.
Also removes the 'rough sex' defence. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 10/21/23 12:17:27 PM #5: |
sauceje posted... jesus they went a bit too far there imo No shit, the movie that portrays these events and the trail isn't graphic at all. It is in fact rather tame, especially when compared to 50 Shades. But that was still one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever watched, seeing his wife on the witness stand discussing this in detail. Can't begin to imagine what the vibe in that courtroom must've been like IRL. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/21/23 12:19:04 PM #6: |
UnfairRepresent posted... The five appellants engaged in sadomasochistic sexual acts, consenting to the harm which they received; whilst their conviction also covered alike harm against others, they sought as a minimum to have their mutually consented acts to be viewed as lawful. None of the five men complained of any of the acts in which they were involved, which were uncovered by an unrelated police investigation. Ok, this paragraph reads incredibly confusing to me and the rest didn't clarify. Were the five men the doms or the subs? Because it sounds like the UK literally convicted them for getting dominated / (arguably) abused? Which would be super fucked up. As far as overall... I do think there should be limits to what can be "consented" to, and if a sub is asking for or agreeing to extremely harmful or dangerous activities, the dom has responsibility as a human being to not go along with or encourage it. "Consenting adults" is great, but some people are incapable of consent (drugged, significant mental illness, under coercion, ...whatever the current politically correct term for "extremely low IQ to the point they can't function normally" is, etc...). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/21/23 5:06:07 PM #7: |
streamofthesky posted...
This is kinda poor arguments. It's a non-sequitur If someone is mentally ill or drugged they can't consent: Fair they can't. But you started out by saying that "some things can't be consented too" which has nothing to do with drugs or mental illness If they're sane and sober and not under coercion, what should they be banned from doing to their own body? I'm with the libertarians on this one. You are not the property of the government, that's unironically communism at it's highest. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/21/23 5:38:54 PM #8: |
UnfairRepresent posted... This is kinda poor arguments. It's a non-sequiturIf someone wants a dom to do permanent bodily harm to them, do an activity that could easily result in their death, or such... Frankly I don't care if it's not yet diagnosed, there's something wrong with such a person and a decent human being would say no, and try to direct that person to professional help. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/21/23 5:42:55 PM #9: |
Vanilla sex can result in death
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streamofthesky 10/21/23 5:53:57 PM #11: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Vanilla sex can result in death Courts somehow manage to navigate "reasonable standards" for stuff like manslaughter. Someone dying in a freak accident or heart attack during vanilla sex obviously isn't a crime. If someone goes to a dom and says they've always fantasized about being run over by a car (for example), I'd hope the dom would refuse. And this discussion is only assuming the most "ideal" scenario where the sub is seeking it out. There are sick fucks out there that look to prey on people to live out their sadistic fantasies, and proving "whether the chicken or the egg came first" in court might not be possible. I'd rather it just be discouraged in general... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 10/21/23 5:59:07 PM #12: |
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A woman with a penis can be guilty of rape. A woman without a penis who penetrates another person, or forces them to penetrate, faces the same penalty as rape. The legal system just uses different terminology. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/23/23 2:47:23 PM #13: |
That's not the defense you think it is
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MatzoTov 10/23/23 2:49:25 PM #14: |
America stays winning.
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TheSavageDragon 10/23/23 3:07:41 PM #15: |
MatzoTov posted... America stays winning. You mean the land where acknowledging any sort of sexual activity at all gets frowned upon? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopPotato 10/23/23 3:10:03 PM #16: |
Butt sex and blow Jays are punishible in the US military
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MatzoTov 10/23/23 3:12:39 PM #17: |
TheSavageDragon posted...
You mean the land where acknowledging any sort of sexual activity at all gets frowned upon?...What Footloose-ass village are you posting from? --- Sigless by choice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/23/23 3:18:29 PM #18: |
MatzoTov posted...
...What Footloose-ass village are you posting from?Probably the south or any Republican Christian foothold The places were sex-ed is banned --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 10/23/23 3:22:53 PM #19: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Probably the south or any Republican Christian foothold Or you know...Europe where I grew up with commercials for shower gel featuring a topless woman during cartoon hours right after school without anybody going apeshit over it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 10/23/23 3:28:39 PM #20: |
MatzoTov posted...
America stays winning.You mean the country that still struggles with teaching basic sex-ed? --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RVallant 10/23/23 3:33:11 PM #21: |
It is a bit dated, but I don't think the CPS would prosecute for consensual extreme BDSM as it wouldn't be in the public interest. 1994 was far back enough you're talking when the UK was just getting used to homosexuality being legalised. So, still a time period where they all get icky about stuff you wouldn't bat an eye about today. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 10/23/23 3:36:15 PM #22: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Pleasure derived from the infliction of pain is an evil thing What a b*********************** --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/23/23 5:40:14 PM #23: |
TheSavageDragon posted...
No shit, the movie that portrays these events and the trail isn't graphic at all. It is in fact rather tame, especially when compared to 50 Shades. But that was still one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever watched, seeing his wife on the witness stand discussing this in detail. Can't begin to imagine what the vibe in that courtroom must've been like IRL.@TheSavageDragon What was the name of the movie? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 10/23/23 6:24:42 PM #24: |
UnfairRepresent posted... @TheSavageDragon What was the name of the movie? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289432/ I don't know if it's easily available to you and if there are English subtitles available somewhere because the movie is entirely in Dutch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/23/23 6:32:22 PM #25: |
I might check it out if I can, it sounds interesting
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WesternMedia 10/26/23 8:56:50 PM #27: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCibGz6RDWY
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spikethedevil 10/26/23 9:01:05 PM #28: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
You mean the country that still struggles with teaching basic sex-ed? When Last of Us 2 came out some people on the LOUT2 board were struggling with the concept of doggy style/from behind being useable for vaginal sex and not just anal. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/30/23 4:57:19 AM #30: |
spikethedevil posted... When Last of Us 2 came out some people on the LOUT2 board were struggling with the concept of doggy style/from behind being useable for vaginal sex and not just anal.lol --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 10/30/23 5:30:36 AM #31: |
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No there is no one who has heard of the man who cracked the enigma code snd then was persecuted for his sexuality. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barber102 10/31/23 11:07:10 PM #33: |
spikethedevil posted...
When Last of Us 2 came out some people on the LOUT2 board were struggling with the concept of doggy style/from behind being useable for vaginal sex and not just anal. lmfao I remember that. --- Dinosaurs built the pyramids. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/01/23 5:12:14 AM #34: |
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Spike is british --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 11/03/23 4:36:40 PM #36: |
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Yeah fair point. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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