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Unsuprised_Pika
10/25/23 8:40:46 AM
#51:


" Dutch subreddits are filled with people with Palestine flag avatars"

Don't conflate Hamas and Palestine as being one and the same. Supporting Palestine is nit the same as helping Hamas.

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Intro2Logic
10/25/23 8:42:55 AM
#52:


We've gone ITT from

sfcalimari posted...
As long as Hamas is supported by Western leftists who think all Israelis are 100% responsible for any pogroms against them, nothing will change

To discussing Dutch Reddit users.

Have an analysis of power, please.


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Plumeofdusk
10/25/23 8:43:04 AM
#53:


Offer both sides a can of pepsi
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punkfanalways
10/25/23 8:56:52 AM
#55:


FWIW the current trend of supporting Israel unequivocally no matter what they do is one the UK and the US are firmly at the forefront of. The majority of other first world countries as well as the UN are very much in the we support Israel but there needs to be a ceasefire to allow aid in camp.

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hockeybub89
10/25/23 9:10:39 AM
#56:


Zwijn posted...
people with Palestine flag avatars and people criticize the news cycle and government for being pro-Israel
This doesn't automatically mean "supporting Hamas". And the news and many governments are absolutely pro-Israel.

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punkfanalways
10/25/23 9:22:47 AM
#57:


hockeybub89 posted...
Murderers and rapists would still exist if we reformed the US prison system and mental healthcare. Doesn't change the fact that things can be made worse by not fostering a good environment

This is a good point. I would counter it by saying why are attacks predominantly from Gaza and not the West Bank?

Do people think if there was a 100% free Gaza / Palestine would there be zero attacks at all?
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WingsOfGood
10/25/23 9:24:46 AM
#58:


hockeybub89 posted...
This doesn't automatically mean "supporting Hamas". And the news and many governments are absolutely pro-Israel.

coming into an article saying what Hamas and Hamas alone did with no commentary and getting upset and suggesting the guy making the thread wasn't upset at Israel is pretty much pro-Hamas

or could you explain how it is not?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80601743/976842625
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AnsestralRecall
10/25/23 9:25:47 AM
#59:


Find a way to go back in time and prevent the British colonization of Palestine.
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Jagr_68
10/25/23 9:27:44 AM
#60:


Obtain proof there is no god between them.

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tankboy
10/25/23 9:28:48 AM
#61:


AnsestralRecall posted...
Find a way to go back in time and prevent the British colonization of Palestine.

You mean have the Central Powers win WWI?
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punkfanalways
10/25/23 9:29:31 AM
#62:


AnsestralRecall posted...
Find a way to go back in time and prevent the British colonization of Palestine.

Why stop at the Brits? Why not the ottomans?
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Were_Wyrm
10/25/23 9:30:42 AM
#63:


Coin flip, winner takes all.

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IceCreamOnStero
10/25/23 9:31:22 AM
#64:


punkfanalways posted...
This is a good point. I would counter it by saying why are attacks predominantly from Gaza and not the West Bank?

Do people think if there was a 100% free Gaza / Palestine would there be zero attacks at all?
Because West Bank leadership tries to cooperate with Israel. All they get from it is humiliation and oppression. Humiliation and oppression that breeds and fuels extremism in Gaza.

No, a completely free Gaza wouldn't end all attacks, since you can't erase decades of animosity and tensions overnight, but talking like Israel's atrocities aren't a massive catalyst is very disingenous at worst, uninformed at best.

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NoMeLx22x
10/25/23 9:36:30 AM
#65:


punkfanalways posted...
Why stop at the Brits? Why not the ottomans?

My guess is because Jewish and Arabic people lived in peace under Ottoman rule.

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bleak2L
10/25/23 10:10:21 AM
#66:


Lock-in at the rec center?

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mario2000
10/25/23 10:23:17 AM
#67:


marthsheretoo posted...
Step 1: invent time machine
Step 2: travel back in time to creation of Israel
Step 3: scrap that plan. Instead, use confiscated Nazi gold to fund the creation of an ambitious artificial island the size of a country. This joint effort between the allied nations will symbolize their commitment to cooperation, redress of wrongs, and human ingenuity in the years to come. Name the island New Israel.
Step 4: divvy up the holy/cultural relics and landmarks in the contested area. For any relics that multiple interested parties claim, isolate them, create exact replicas of all isolated relics, then pass them out in such a way that it's impossible to tell who got the original.
(But how do you make such a perfect replica, you ask? Simple. We've already solved time travel. This is simple by comparison)
Step 5: Any Jewish person who wants gets a paid relocation to New Israel. This paid relocation can be banked for up to twenty years.

or kill Hitler and prevent the holocaust from happening in the first place

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punkfanalways
10/25/23 10:24:56 AM
#68:


NoMeLx22x posted...
My guess is because Jewish and Arabic people lived in peace under Ottoman rule.

I dont know my history that well. I know this is oft said but Ive done a bit of Googling and doesnt seem to be that accurate.
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LSGW_Zephyra
10/25/23 10:26:28 AM
#69:


Occupy the region, force a cease fire, demilitarize the region, begin negotiations with both people for a Palestinian Nation State. Leave.

Sadly, I would need almost the entire world to cooperate for this plan to work.

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Calamity_Kaiju
10/25/23 10:28:05 AM
#70:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
Enforced atheism
This. 1000% Fuck religion

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AnsestralRecall
10/25/23 10:37:51 AM
#71:


Calamity_Kaiju posted...
This. 1000% Fuck religion

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CoyoteTheGreat
10/25/23 10:45:32 AM
#72:


  1. US stops funding Israeli atrocities against Palestinians.
  2. Palestinians are given right of return and full political rights in Israel. Apartheid is ended. Any Palestinian who had lost their ancestral home from settlers will be built a new, more valuable one.
  3. Constitution that strictly limits any ethnic favoritism between arabs or jewish people. Any violators, such as terrorist groups like Hamas or the Israeli right-wing agitating for ethnic supremacy on either side get thrown in a dark hole and never get let out.

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Babidi123
10/25/23 10:47:56 AM
#73:


I would bring in this guy for negotiations

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Torgo
10/25/23 10:57:03 AM
#74:


sfcalimari posted...
As long as Hamas is supported by Western leftists who think all Israelis are 100% responsible for any pogroms against them, nothing will change.

You have been fed misinformation. Western leftists are against the Palestinian apartheid state imposed upon them. They understand the "controlled opposition" nature of Hamas. They cannot ever condemn Hamas enough to please western Christians and Zionists who become outraged that anyone could place 1% of the blame on the conservative government in Israel while they are literally calling all Palestinians savages and using extermination rhetoric towards them.

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Irony
10/25/23 10:59:54 AM
#75:


punkfanalways posted...
Why stop at the Brits? Why not the ottomans?
Get out of here Ernest P Worrell

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Kimbos_Egg
10/25/23 11:02:39 AM
#76:


NoMeLx22x posted...
My guess is because Jewish and Arabic people lived in peace under Ottoman rule.
Lol no they didn't. Pogroms were common and they were treated little better than the Palestinians. Pick up a history book someday, you might learn something.

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Kimbos_Egg
10/25/23 11:03:44 AM
#77:


mario2000 posted...
or kill Hitler and prevent the holocaust from happening in the first place

So, make it worse for minority, and empires are still around? Great plan.

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Sephiroth_C_Ryu
10/25/23 11:04:31 AM
#78:


Let them fight.
Loser stops existing.
Winner gets to replace its command structure after sending the old one to Hague.

There is no good way to solve it.

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UnrivaledKoopa
10/25/23 11:06:57 AM
#79:


There is no solution that meets OP's conditions.

"JuSt OpEn BoRdErs AnD eNd ApaRtHeiD" is a naive idea that will lead to the same destination that came to Gaza, a free and fair election of extremists whose mission will be to drive the Jews from their land. No constitutional or legal protections will be able to prevent this, only toothless sanctions.


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Tora_Sami
10/25/23 11:07:09 AM
#80:


https://youtu.be/HFGS2t9ASEw?si=mo5gGCDO7EWdYq2f

Just blow up the world, that will resolve all conflicts forever! Mwuuahahahahha

But seriously though, I have no clue. Israel just guranteed terrorism for generations to come with the way they are acting. I get they have to do something about Hamas, but this was the absolute worst way to do it. We helped Ukraine spot Russians with drones, Hamas is not a nuclear crazed nation we could have helped Israel with drones and intelligence. Sure it wouldn't be as easy to bomb them but the IDF could have really changed things up if they were merciful. Now, war will continue until the Palestinians in Gaza are wiped from the map, genocide. And the UN will watch and clap. This situation is so fucked it's ridiculous.

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Foppe
10/25/23 11:09:14 AM
#81:


Kimbos_Egg posted...
So, make it worse for minority, and empires are still around? Great plan.
Since we got a time machine...
Islam is the youngest of the three religions, we know who created it, when and where he lived.

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McMarbles
10/25/23 11:28:00 AM
#82:


Prismsblade posted...
Just move Israel and its people. Idk whose bright idea it was to bring them back there in the first place.

We gain very little supporting them as much as we do, and if we wanted an ally in the region we could have just found somebody else in the region. Idk why our government is so obsessed with them.
So the solution to ethnic cleansing is cleanse the area of an ethnicity.

Well, fine, I mean, its not like the Jews have had a history of being targeted by that sort of thing..,

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reincarnator07
10/25/23 11:45:50 AM
#83:


sfcalimari posted...
You guys do realize that Hamas would still want to kill all Jews even if Palestine was a free country and all settlers were removed, and that terrorists like Hamas feel the same "resentment and injustice" about the entirety of Western history, right? You're just digging your own grave if you start making excuses for terrorist groups that would kill everyone in the West if they could, including you. And the biggest victims of Islamic terrorism BY FAR are Muslims, so if you care about Muslims, you need to stop making excuses for literal terrorists.
And this here is the real issue with this discussion. Where did I make excuses for Hamas? I literally said that Hamas needs to be removed from power in the very post you quoted.

The fact that I need to spell this out for you means that you're not equipped for this conversation, but regardless: Hamas is a terrorist group and can rot in hell for all I care. If you could bomb them out of existence, I'd totally be on board with that. Their recent attacks are only the latest and worst in a long list of reprehensible activities. If they were a nation, they'd be dragged before The Hague for war crimes.

Even if you could bomb them out of existence though, there's the very real issue that the conditions that led to their rise still remain. You will replace one terrorist organisation with another, similar to what led to the rise of ISIS. Considering the topic was on how to solve the conflict, this would do literally nothing.

The real victims are the civilians who are directly affected by this on both sides. Hamas can get fucked, just like those in the Israeli military who are committing war crimes.

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Lobinde
10/25/23 12:23:44 PM
#84:


Israelis are moved to one half of the region, Palestinians are moved to the other half. Both halves are separate internationally-recognised states. In between is a 30-km strip of no man's land enforced by spiked walls, landmines, underground motion sensors, anti-air defenses and a giant fuck-off satellite laser cannon.

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Kimbos_Egg
10/25/23 12:27:28 PM
#85:


reincarnator07 posted...
And this here is the real issue with this discussion. Where did I make excuses for Hamas? I literally said that Hamas needs to be removed from power in the very post you quoted.

hamas is just a symptom. the vast majority of Palestinians support their actions as "just", and many of them for generations have supported mass genocide against them.

For fuck sake, their books in UN run schools are antisemitic in almost every damn sentence. Do you really think getting rid of one terror group will solve the problem? Two more will just take their place.

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Charged151
10/25/23 12:32:23 PM
#86:


Kimbos_Egg posted...
hamas is just a symptom. the vast majority of Palestinians support their actions as "just", and many of them for generations have supported mass genocide against them.

For fuck sake, their books in UN run schools are antisemitic in almost every damn sentence. Do you really think getting rid of one terror group will solve the problem? Two more will just take their place.
Point is such a group won't be allowed to take power in Gaza. Just another terrorist group or 2 at that point.

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andel
10/25/23 12:39:52 PM
#87:


NoMeLx22x posted...
My guess is because Jewish and Arabic people lived in peace under Ottoman rule.

why post obvious lies?

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FlyEaglesFly24
10/25/23 12:56:26 PM
#88:


I dont know. Its a multi step process involving an understanding of the historical, religious, and geographic barriers that divide the two groups.

But Im pretty sure step 1 ought to get both groups to stop trying to kill each other.

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TerraSeeker
10/25/23 1:25:02 PM
#89:


It's not happening.

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punkfanalways
10/25/23 2:12:55 PM
#90:


I think one option would be for Hamas to be dissolved and they for a 3rd party to come take over administration of the area. Id go with Saudis Arabia or Egypt.
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UnrivaledKoopa
10/25/23 2:15:50 PM
#91:


Egypt seems to believe that taking in Gaza's people would not suit their security interests, due to issues with refugees in the region previously.

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rideshort
10/25/23 2:17:30 PM
#92:


Honestly I really think military powers need to enter the country. United States and other countries show humanitarian Aid to the Palestinians and the Israelis caught in the conflict. Occupy the area for a show of strength for both sides to back down. Get the leaders of both areas to come to an agreement. Other major powers start a rebuilding and cohabitation restoration

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K181
10/25/23 2:22:14 PM
#93:


Three state solution:

Israel
Palestine (west bank)
Republic of Gaza

UN peacekeepers in the region along the borders and in Jerusalem, cleaning up of borders between the three so as to not be fragmented or pocketed, foreign aid to Palestine and especially Gaza, financial compensation to resettling Isreali settlers, and avowed statements by all three and other parties in the region specifcally stating that they respect the borders and disavow any future move to change them.

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Kimbos_Egg
10/25/23 2:43:55 PM
#94:


UnrivaledKoopa posted...
Egypt seems to believe that taking in Gaza's people would not suit their security interests, due to issues with refugees in the region previously.

or its the fact that they're in bed with the muslim brotherhood, they're strongest terrorist force they have to fight against.

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reincarnator07
10/25/23 2:53:37 PM
#95:


Kimbos_Egg posted...
hamas is just a symptom. the vast majority of Palestinians support their actions as "just", and many of them for generations have supported mass genocide against them.

For fuck sake, their books in UN run schools are antisemitic in almost every damn sentence. Do you really think getting rid of one terror group will solve the problem? Two more will just take their place.
You missed the post that the other poster was replying to, in which I said:

The problem isn't Hamas, it's the resentment and hatred over the injustices inflicted that allows groups like Hamas to operate.

I find it both amusing and people have accused me of saying opposite things from the same post

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hockeybub89
10/25/23 3:12:08 PM
#96:


WingsOfGood posted...
coming into an article saying what Hamas and Hamas alone did with no commentary and getting upset and suggesting the guy making the thread wasn't upset at Israel is pretty much pro-Hamas

or could you explain how it is not?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80601743/976842625
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Trumble
10/25/23 3:13:07 PM
#97:


Two state solution, with Palestine getting the entire West Bank. Possibly three state, if Gaza and West Bank can't agree on what their state should look like. Israel forced to denuclearize (militarily I mean; they can keep nuclear power if they want) and Japan-like demilitarization where they can have self-defense capability within their own borders but nothing more. Netanyahu and others like him put on trial for war crimes, and likewise for Hamas's leadership. Both/all states required to adopt a secular constitution that may allow religion but cannot enforce it or prioritize one religion over others as the "official" one of the state. If they can't agree on what to do about Jerusalem, neither gets it.

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FlyEaglesFly24
10/25/23 5:58:11 PM
#98:


Trumble posted...
Two state solution, with Palestine getting the entire West Bank. Possibly three state, if Gaza and West Bank can't agree on what their state should look like. Israel forced to denuclearize (militarily I mean; they can keep nuclear power if they want) and Japan-like demilitarization where they can have self-defense capability within their own borders but nothing more. Netanyahu and others like him put on trial for war crimes, and likewise for Hamas's leadership. Both/all states required to adopt a secular constitution that may allow religion but cannot enforce it or prioritize one religion over others as the "official" one of the state. If they can't agree on what to do about Jerusalem, neither gets it.

You realize that Israel has absolutely no reason at all to agree to this, correct?


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Trumble
10/25/23 6:03:10 PM
#99:


FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
You realize that Israel has absolutely no reason at all to agree to this, correct?
You realize there's no reason to give a fuck what a genocidal apartheid state agrees to, right? Force it on them.

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Azn_Psycho
10/25/23 6:10:10 PM
#100:


Nuke the whole area to the point where it cannot support life for centuries.

If they can't get along, no one gets anything! </s>

Though, I think that it would be a two-state solution (or two and a half), with West Bank being Palestine. Gaza will be reabsorbed into Egypt.

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