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CableZL
11/03/23 10:14:23 AM
#401:


ScarfForLife posted...
What time does everything start back up?

Things have started. Trump's lawyers are still refusing to drop it.

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720443548888150329

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/be384294.jpg


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dummy420
11/03/23 10:16:13 AM
#402:


Straight away going after the judges team. It seems that's been going well for them so far...

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Were_Wyrm
11/03/23 10:17:36 AM
#403:


At what point does Will Smith walk in, slap Kise, and tell him to keep the law clerk out of his mouth?

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mystic_belmont
11/03/23 10:20:07 AM
#404:


Are staff allowed to make campaign contributions? I can't find anything online that prohibits it.

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CableZL
11/03/23 10:21:38 AM
#405:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720445087421719000

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720445696610882010

https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720445935262531646

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/aea66a51.jpg

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Starks
11/03/23 10:21:52 AM
#406:


The lawyer is setting the stage for Trump to dodge testifying.

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ReiRei89
11/03/23 10:23:30 AM
#407:


We're at the stage of the trial where Trump's side are now shitting themselves and flinging it as a defense.

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ThePieReborn
11/03/23 10:23:39 AM
#408:


mystic_belmont posted...
Are staff allowed to make campaign contributions? I can't find anything online that prohibits it.
New York's canons, Section 100.5(C) appears to do so and prevents contributions over $500. That said, they need to prove bias/prejudice for any recusal or mistrial.

Edit: also, again, our job as law clerks is/was to help the judge. Conversations would disrupt trial and examination. Kise is a shitheel.

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Starks
11/03/23 10:25:18 AM
#409:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720446675137782110?s=20

Truly laughable

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CableZL
11/03/23 10:26:20 AM
#410:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720446675137782110
https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720446906512425459
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d7559058.jpg

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CableZL
11/03/23 10:27:43 AM
#411:


Trump's defense is unironically referencing bullshit from Breitbart

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CableZL
11/03/23 10:29:44 AM
#412:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720447415549940001

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c7c91d08.jpg


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CableZL
11/03/23 10:37:41 AM
#413:


I'm constantly tempted to just post every update... I've gotta get some work done, so I'll keep refreshing it and post if something particularly interesting is said or happens.

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mystic_belmont
11/03/23 10:38:33 AM
#414:


Thank you for all your work Cable!

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ScarfForLife
11/03/23 10:43:18 AM
#415:


Yeah, thanks Cable! You da man.

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CableZL
11/03/23 10:47:07 AM
#416:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRW6DMHgslM

Harrison Floyd is in court in Fulton County, GA trying to get the judge to allow him to subpoena a few state agencies

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UltimateWing
11/03/23 10:47:36 AM
#417:


Thanks again. Appreciate it.

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TheGoldenEel
11/03/23 10:52:21 AM
#418:


I think I havent posted in this topic but I appreciate the updates on this clown show

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Tyranthraxus
11/03/23 10:54:28 AM
#419:


Legal Eagle video for anyone looking to get brought up to speed on the Fulton County case plus some legal shit you might not have known about even if you've been following the whole time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKqQYBF27js

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CableZL
11/03/23 11:20:26 AM
#422:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c893e5cd.jpg

They're going into Allen Weisselberg's severance package where he is currently being paid $250,000 quarterly until $2,000,000 is paid. The $2,000,000 just happens to be the same amount as he was fined for tax fraud in a previous trial. Part of that agreement says he isn't supposed to cooperate with the NY AG's office as it pertains to this trial since the NY AG's office is adverse to them...

Kinda brings up some interesting legal jeopardy for Weisselberg. He's basically being bribed during this trial.

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UltimateWing
11/03/23 11:20:55 AM
#423:


https://www.twitter.com/atrupar/status/1720446580858221012

From this morning.

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CableZL
11/03/23 11:26:11 AM
#424:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7962e6ef.jpg

That's the end of Eric Trump's testimony, I guess. Donald Trump is next, right?

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Tyranthraxus
11/03/23 11:27:17 AM
#425:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7962e6ef.jpg

That's the end of Eric Trump's testimony, I guess. Donald Trump is next, right?

I think so. Ivanka got denied and is set to testify on the 8th

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CableZL
11/03/23 11:31:50 AM
#427:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e6552588.jpg

Trump team taking issue with the judge's interaction with the law clerk again

sheesh

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CableZL
11/03/23 11:35:02 AM
#428:


https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1720464370612781365

Trump's testimony will start on Monday. They have been doing half days on Fridays, so that tracks.

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VFalcone
11/03/23 11:39:10 AM
#430:


I've been skipping out on this thread. Does this have anything to do with something that can put Trump in prison?
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CableZL
11/03/23 11:45:47 AM
#431:


VFalcone posted...
I've been skipping out on this thread. Does this have anything to do with something that can put Trump in prison?

The civil trial, no. However, Donald Trump lost his entire New York business empire as a result of a pre-trial partial summary judgement. The NY AG's office provided mountains of uncontested evidence that the defendants committed a persistent pattern of fraud as it relates to inflating the value of Trump's properties. So the judge ordered that their business certificates have to be canceled. Any New York business entity owned by the defendants (Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Allen Weisselberg, and Jeffrey McConney) will essentially be put into a receivership and their assets will be sold off. It will basically be treated like a bankruptcy, from what I've read. The action has been put on hold, though, until the trial finishes. It should be done toward the end of December.

This trial is still happening because there are also allegations of insurance fraud, falsification of business records, and conspiracy to sort out.

Other trials currently happening (all civil):
  • Colorado 14th amendment trial to remove Trump from the ballot
  • Minnesota 14th amendment trial to remove Trump from the ballot


And then there are hearings going on here and there in Georgia related to the RICO indictment.

The first criminal trial that could put Trump in prison is set to start in early March. It will be for the charges related to the January 6th indictment.

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Takuya_Lee
11/03/23 11:46:19 AM
#432:


VFalcone posted...
I've been skipping out on this thread. Does this have anything to do with something that can put Trump in prison?

Ones about his ability to do business in New York. In that one, I'm impressed the judge hasn't taken a swing at Kise yet. He just keeps running his mouth.

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CableZL
11/03/23 11:54:00 AM
#433:


https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1720468720634528152

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/16bd9971.jpg

Trump state department appointee Federico Klein sentenced to 5 years in prison for his January 6th conviction.

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CableZL
11/03/23 11:56:33 AM
#435:


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointee-assaulted-capitol-officers-jan-6-sentenced-nearly-6-ye-rcna123188

Correction: Apparently Federico Klein was sentenced to 70 months in prison, which is almost 6 years.

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ScarfForLife
11/03/23 12:01:40 PM
#437:


CableZL posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointee-assaulted-capitol-officers-jan-6-sentenced-nearly-6-ye-rcna123188

Correction: Apparently Federico Klein was sentenced to 70 months in prison, which is almost 6 years.
Thats a shame <\Seinfeld>

What are the chances Trump just pleads the fifth the entire time Monday?

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darkace77450
11/03/23 12:07:11 PM
#438:


"I'm sorry we've descended to this level."

Trump's lawyers are making a circus of this man's court.

CableZL posted...
Trump state department appointee Federico Klein sentenced to 5 years in prison for his January 6th conviction.

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jefffan
11/03/23 12:08:10 PM
#439:


Imagine giving up a government pension for Donald Trump

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Ruvan22
11/03/23 12:19:43 PM
#440:


CableZL posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e6552588.jpg

Trump team taking issue with the judge's interaction with the law clerk again

sheesh

I wonder if Kise is trying to get himself found in contempt so that searching for a new attorney would delay the trial..
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King_Rial
11/03/23 12:31:52 PM
#441:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a4837ab0.jpg
Eric is going to willingly take the fall for his father for paying Weisselberg off to not testify against them.

Trump is likely to subtly throw Eric under the bus in Monday. I was wondering which kid would be the fall guy. Eric it is!

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CableZL
11/03/23 12:41:06 PM
#442:


https://twitter.com/TomDreisbach/status/1720477366609186971

No oral closing arguments in the John Eastman disbartment trial... I guess there wont' be any updates until a few weeks from now at the earliest.

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AlCalavicci
11/03/23 12:42:24 PM
#443:


My guess is in addition to the dog and pony show to create ammunition for a potential mistrial, that they also want to create fuel for their base within the public sphere to latch onto.

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MatzoTov
11/03/23 12:53:02 PM
#444:


CableZL posted...
Other trials currently happening (all civil):
Colorado 14th amendment trial to remove Trump from the ballot
Minnesota 14th amendment trial to remove Trump from the ballot
Question on these, not sure if anyone knows.

This doesn't invalidate him from actually running, correct? People are still able to write-in?

Would be curious to see how that plays out. Though the typical trump demographic probably has trouble spelling, I wonder if writing in "Doneld Trump" would invalidate the vote.

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King_Rial
11/03/23 12:53:55 PM
#445:


MatzoTov posted...
Question on these, not sure if anyone knows.

This doesn't invalidate him from actually running, correct? People are still able to write-in?

Would be curious to see how that plays out. Though the typical trump demographic probably has trouble spelling, I wonder if writing in "Doneld Trump" would invalidate the vote.
Yes, he would still be allowed to run. In states that allow write-in votes, it is possible for him to be voted on. And voters intent would take into account misspellings in many circumstances.

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BewmHedshot
11/03/23 1:00:08 PM
#446:


MatzoTov posted...
Question on these, not sure if anyone knows.

This doesn't invalidate him from actually running, correct? People are still able to write-in?

Would be curious to see how that plays out. Though the typical trump demographic probably has trouble spelling, I wonder if writing in "Doneld Trump" would invalidate the vote.
The 14th Amendment itself doesn't have anything to do with elections, it makes you literally ineligible for the office. But it's a lot easier to get someone removed from ballots on the basis of ineligibility than to challenge the election results saying "you can't be President despite the fact you won 270 electoral votes." Especially with a loaded up openly biased Conservative SCOTUS.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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Starks
11/03/23 1:00:53 PM
#447:


As long as you've never taken an oath of office, the Constitution is perfectly fine with you being an insurrectionist and later running for office.

In a few years when a bunch of these insurrectionists get out of jail, they'll be running for Congress and have plenty of sympathetic assholes to bankroll them.

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Tyranthraxus
11/03/23 1:04:20 PM
#448:


Starks posted...
As long as you've never taken an oath of office, the Constitution is perfectly fine with you being an insurrectionist and later running for office.

In a few years when a bunch of these insurrectionists get out of jail, they'll be running for Congress and have plenty of sympathetic assholes to bankroll them.
Unless that office is the president. It's apparently ok for the president to attempt to overthrow the government. Just make sure it's an entry level position and you don't have any other public office before that.

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Amakusa
11/03/23 1:10:22 PM
#449:


Ruvan22 posted...
I wonder if Kise is trying to get himself found in contempt so that searching for a new attorney would delay the trial..
There's faster ways for him to do that than this.

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Block_that_Kick
11/03/23 3:43:29 PM
#450:


The gag order just got extended to Trumps attorneys.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/03/politics/trump-gag-order-engoron-clerk/index.html

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