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10/31/23 2:01:47 PM
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punkfanalways
10/31/23 3:15:11 PM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67258466

Fucking hell.
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Funkydog
10/31/23 3:15:53 PM
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Just good guy things.

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MarcyWarcy
10/31/23 3:35:49 PM
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we fund these fucking psychos

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Lonestar2000
10/31/23 3:37:54 PM
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Funkydog posted...
Just good guy things.

MarcyWarcy posted...
we fund these fucking psychos


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SaikyoStyle
10/31/23 3:38:41 PM
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What are they even trying to prove with this?

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MarcyWarcy
10/31/23 3:39:40 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
What are they even trying to prove with this?

they believe muslims are less than human

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Irony
10/31/23 3:39:52 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
What are they even trying to prove with this?
That they can do it because they have the backing of the world.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
10/31/23 3:40:28 PM
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Why did they attack a refugee camp? Was there a Hamas terrorist? Is 50 refugees acceptable collateral damage?

Edit: Yeap, seems like it

  1. The IDF says the strike killed a senior Hamas commander and caused the collapse of Hamas's underground infrastructure.
  2. The Hamas-run health ministry and a hospital director say at least 50 people were killed; pictures from the scene show craters and levelled buildings
  3. The camp is in northern Gaza - an area where Israel has told people to leave for their safety



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the_rowan
10/31/23 3:41:48 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
What are they even trying to prove with this?

They killed a senior Hamas commander and collapsed underground infrastructure under the camp.

Stop asking "why does this war against an enemy that intentionally puts as many civilians in harm's way as possible keep harming civilians?".

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Starks
10/31/23 3:43:09 PM
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But upwards of 8k civilians dead and 3k of them being kids?

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Irony
10/31/23 3:45:39 PM
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the_rowan posted...
They killed a senior Hamas commander and collapsed underground infrastructure under the camp.

Stop asking "why does this war against an enemy that intentionally puts as many civilians in harm's way as possible keep harming civilians?".
All I got from this post is you're saying killing innocent people is ok because someone else did it

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the_rowan
10/31/23 4:08:25 PM
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Irony posted...
All I got from this post is you're saying killing innocent people is ok because someone else did it

Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/31/23 4:11:11 PM
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the_rowan posted...

Jesus fucking Christ

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meatlesshotdogz
10/31/23 4:11:52 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.

wow ok then
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mario2000
10/31/23 4:13:47 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.

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Inohira
10/31/23 4:14:19 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it.

Sure. But while quoting I'll remember to add the disclaimer that it's a stupid opinion.

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hockeybub89
10/31/23 4:14:48 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.
Why do you support Israeli terrorism then. If America was actually a good place, we would have told both sides to go fuck themselves. I'm sorry you're incapable of comprehending a war where there are no good guys.

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UnfairRepresent
10/31/23 4:14:54 PM
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wtf

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meatlesshotdogz
10/31/23 4:15:06 PM
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mario2000 posted...
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Solar_Crimson
10/31/23 4:15:22 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.
You should probably change your sig.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
10/31/23 4:16:02 PM
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god the middle east is so fucking lost its not even funny anymore. Just a bunch of hate filled morons blowing each other up at this point. Just gotta feel sorry for anyone unlucky enough to be born anywhere near there at this point.

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Inohira
10/31/23 4:17:42 PM
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the_rowan posted...
The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function

Look at how hard the US hit the Middle East. Did any of the organizations there cease to function? No, because the cause is bigger than the specific people pursuing it at the time.

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Murphiroth
10/31/23 4:19:06 PM
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the_rowan posted...
The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.

Yeah see this is fucking stupid and doesn't work, because all it does is radicalize the survivors who might not have been a part of Hamas, but they'll sure as fuck sign up for Hamas 2, and then this will all play out again in a year or two.

Just admit you want all Palestinians dead, that's ultimately what you support.

Hamas is fucking awful, don't get it twisted, but the Israelis are certainly no saints in this conflict.
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thronedfire2
10/31/23 4:22:54 PM
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Yeah, the only thing theyre doing is creating the next generation of terrorists. Same with the US in Iraq/Afghanistan

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Trumble
10/31/23 4:27:27 PM
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Glad to see you realizing what kind of nation Israel really is, and no longer shilling for them, TC.

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ZechtAurion
10/31/23 4:35:49 PM
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I find it funny how many Israeli shills I tagged turned around, sadly it took 3k+ children to be murdered for it to finally happen.
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legendary_zell
10/31/23 4:37:22 PM
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Let's think for a second entirely from the IDF's perspective here. By what calculation is killing one Hamas leader but deliberately blowing up dozens of helpless refugees worth it? The loss of one guy is not going to cripple Hamas, and you'll take a huge hit in the minds of all rationally thinking people internationally. You've also probably created several people who now hate you as much as the Hamas guy you blew up.

Either they're not thinking rationally or they're acting with total impunity. Or both.

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Heavy_D_Forever
10/31/23 4:39:18 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Hamas is fucking awful, don't get it twisted, but the Israelis are certainly no saints in this conflict.
I don't think he ever said Isreal are saints in this conflict. His point was Hamas is trying to eradicate Jews from the planet and Isreal won't just sit back and let that happen obviously.

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Trumble
10/31/23 4:39:21 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Either they're not thinking rationally or they're acting with total impunity. Or both.
Or their goal doesn't stop at just wiping out Hamas.

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DarthAragorn
10/31/23 4:40:19 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Let's think for a second entirely from the IDF's perspective here. By what calculation is killing one Hamas leader but deliberately blowing up dozens of helpless refugees worth it? The loss of one guy is not going to cripple Hamas, and you'll take a huge hit in the minds of all rationally thinking people internationally. You've also probably created several people who now hate you as much as the Hamas guy you blew up.

Either they're not thinking rationally or they're acting with total impunity. Or both.
They realize that they can do whatever the fuck they want because both religion and the west really, really hates brown people

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Forty_Niners
10/31/23 4:40:51 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9a01ef0f.jpg

This is from an Israeli news network.

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Sandalorn
10/31/23 4:42:07 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
That post combined with the signature is something else.

Guess we will see if this uber Pro-Israel mod staff will have any consistency with that post.

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theAteam
10/31/23 4:43:52 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Let's think for a second entirely from the IDF's perspective here. By what calculation is killing one Hamas leader but deliberately blowing up dozens of helpless refugees worth it? The loss of one guy is not going to cripple Hamas, and you'll take a huge hit in the minds of all rationally thinking people internationally. You've also probably created several people who now hate you as much as the Hamas guy you blew up.

Either they're not thinking rationally or they're acting with total impunity. Or both.

My theory is they are showing to Hamas and other groups that would use civilians as human shields that they dont care and that its an ineffective strategy in the hopes theyll eventually give up on doing it.

And as can be seen its not a problem for Israel yet because the world powers dont care enough to do anything about it.

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Starks
10/31/23 4:44:33 PM
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ZechtAurion posted...
I find it funny how many Israeli shills I tagged turned around, sadly it took 3k+ children to be murdered for it to finally happen.
Israel made the wrong choice. But what was the right choice? Let the IDF be fair targets and spare civilians in a more precise operation?

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punkfanalways
10/31/23 4:44:44 PM
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Murphiroth
10/31/23 4:45:56 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
I don't think he ever said Isreal are saints in this conflict. His point was Hamas is trying to eradicate Jews from the planet and Isreal won't just sit back and let that happen obviously.

He said a bit more than "Israel won't sit back and let that happen" but keep chudding.

I added in that last bit because there are folks here who take any criticism of Israel as support for Hamas.
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Starks
10/31/23 4:48:40 PM
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The pro-Hamas and river-to-sea folks never need to answer for what Hamas is aiming at with their rockets. Even hypothetical perfectly accurate rockets that could defeat Iron Dome, it is never a concern.

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Nemu
10/31/23 4:49:54 PM
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At this point, this is just one of those conflicts that really has no good ending.
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CyrusV
10/31/23 4:52:13 PM
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They really need to dial it back on the war crimes.

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legendary_zell
10/31/23 4:53:47 PM
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Starks posted...
The pro-Hamas and river-to-sea folks never need to answer for what Hamas is aiming at with their rockets. Even hypothetical perfectly accurate rockets that could defeat Iron Dome, it is never a concern.


There's not a single Pro Hamas poster on this board. Hamas is evil and shouldn't be indiscriminately attacking Israeli civilians, even as part of armed resistance.

To answer your earlier question, yes, the military should risk it's life to specifically target Hamas rather than blowing up Palestinian children to save their lives.

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CADE_FOSTER
10/31/23 4:54:24 PM
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its like china and the genocide of the muslims the world isnt going to do anything here either
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Funkydog
10/31/23 4:57:56 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.
Only a fucking monster actively supports killing children.

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DirkDiggles
10/31/23 4:58:24 PM
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the_rowan posted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI

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FunWithAFryPan
10/31/23 5:00:27 PM
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the_rowan posted...
Yes. Yes I am. Fucking quote me on it. You do not get to be a pathetic naive child with absolutely no stakes on the issue but to whine about "how DARE a nation attack a bunch of terrorists hell-bent on total genocide that kill thousands of people unendingly and kill CIVIILIANS on the way1!11!!" (that said terrorists are intentionally setting up to die). The only way to improve the situation is to hit Hamas so hard into the ground that they cease to function, not play wishy-washy games of ethics so we can play this all out again in a year or two.
Do you like to drink the blood of innocents, or do you just bathe in it?

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pikachupwnage
10/31/23 5:01:32 PM
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Forty_Niners posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9a01ef0f.jpg

This is from an Israeli news network.

.fucking hell they are counting every death in Gaza as a terrorist in that count 100%. Absolutely credible zero sources have claimed anywhere near 9000 Hamas deaths. Civilian deaths however are pretty close to that number

Fucking abhorrent.

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Inohira
10/31/23 5:01:40 PM
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Starks posted...
The pro-Hamas and river-to-sea folks never need to answer for what Hamas is aiming at with their rockets. Even hypothetical perfectly accurate rockets that could defeat Iron Dome, it is never a concern.

Oh look, a partisan hack assuming everyone dick rides Hamas like he dies Israel.theAteam posted...
My theory is they are showing to Hamas and other groups that would use civilians as human shields that they dont care and that its an ineffective strategy in the hopes theyll eventually give up on doing it.

Why would they do that when it's foolproof recruitment tool? Hamas doesn't actually care about the civilian deaths. But the murdera expose Israel as being a piece of shit country and make others want to take them down.

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