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Forty_Niners 11/02/23 6:48:22 PM #1: |
2 Republicans voted against defunding the IRS.
I'm unsure it mattered either way, even with the addition of 12 Dems, they only get to 208 votes and Republicans had 214. Seems like several House members didn't participate in the vote. I'm curious as to what reasons those 12 Democrats would vote in favor of defunding the IRS, giving Republicans a win in the process would be. And if they're more blue dog assholes, hopefully this gets them primaried. --- Who cares if Bosa is racist? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EndOfDiscOne 11/02/23 6:49:28 PM #2: |
Im guessing they dont want to get audited
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wanderingshade 11/02/23 6:50:11 PM #3: |
Probably Blue Dog democrats.
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CoyoteTheGreat 11/02/23 6:50:25 PM #4: |
It looks like it was some kind of plan to offset Israel funding with IRS cuts, so the 12 probably voted that way to support Israel. Not that this is any better than some weird ideological hatred of the IRS.
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Solar_Crimson 11/02/23 6:51:03 PM #5: |
Democrats may be the lesser of two evils, but they still serve their corporate donors' interests.
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TheMikh 11/02/23 6:51:22 PM #6: |
when you consider the socioeconomic demographics the irs spends most of its time harassing (hint: it's not the ultra wealthy), there's a case to be made that defunding the irs is a progressive cause
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Tora_Sami 11/02/23 6:53:58 PM #7: |
CoyoteTheGreat posted...
It looks like it was some kind of plan to offset Israel funding with IRS cuts, so the 12 probably voted that way to support Israel. Not that this is any better than some weird ideological hatred of the IRS. Jeebus, Israel does not deserve funding if that means we lose IRS funding when it's working. I fuckin hate this country sometimes. --- Asus E-gaming z490 | 10700k | DDR4 32gb 3200mhz | Asus TUF 3080ti | 1000 watt | Corsair H100i 240 | G7 Odyssey 32" | Orion Spark | Proteus Core ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BearlyWilling 11/02/23 6:54:11 PM #8: |
TheMikh posted...
when you consider the socioeconomic demographics the irs spends most of its time harassing (hint: it's not the ultra wealthy), there's a case to be made that defunding the irs is a progressive cause Not really. Those same communities will still be targeted and harassed. This is purely going to benefit the wealthy and the wealthy alone as they already struggle going up against those with money. With even more limited resources, Id expect them to fully throw in the towel on that front. --- Hmm... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 11/02/23 6:54:39 PM #9: |
If this garbage bill gets signed that's gonna be bad for 2024 turnout.
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MrAntisocial 11/02/23 6:55:07 PM #10: |
CoyoteTheGreat posted...
It looks like it was some kind of plan to offset Israel funding with IRS cuts, so the 12 probably voted that way to support Israel. Not that this is any better than some weird ideological hatred of the IRS. Well, you see that the IRS goes after low income people all the time. Since they don't have much money it stands to reason that the rich have it even worse. /s --- [insert signature here] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 11/02/23 6:55:54 PM #11: |
Jesus fucking christ, if we're at the point of defunding necessary government agencies to afford funding Isreal's genocide, maybe it's time to stop fucking funding it.
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Forty_Niners 11/02/23 6:56:01 PM #12: |
TheMikh posted...
when you consider the socioeconomic demographics the irs spends most of its time harassing (hint: it's not the ultra wealthy), there's a case to be made that defunding the irs is a progressive causeThat's the entire point of funding them. Which is why Republicans want to defund them. --- Who cares if Bosa is racist? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 11/02/23 6:56:50 PM #13: |
In America, the affairs of Israel matter more than the country itself. Really makes you think
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thronedfire2 11/02/23 6:56:59 PM #14: |
TheMikh posted...
when you consider the socioeconomic demographics the irs spends most of its time harassing (hint: it's not the ultra wealthy), there's a case to be made that defunding the irs is a progressive cause no, they need more funding. the reason they don't just go after the rich is because that takes a lot more time and accountants. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 11/02/23 6:57:05 PM #15: |
Corporate stooge exists outside the political spectrum
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Antifar 11/02/23 7:12:07 PM #16: |
Cuts to the IRS do not offset spending. It's like if McDonald's tried to save money by selling fewer Big Macs.
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xlr_big-coop 11/02/23 7:12:49 PM #17: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Democrats may be the lesser of two evils, but they still serve their corporate donors' interests. --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 11/03/23 10:46:21 AM #19: |
Solar_Crimson posted... Democrats may be the lesser of two evils, but they still serve their corporate donors' interests.12 out of how many Democrats voted for this? Calm down. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 11/03/23 10:47:09 AM #20: |
TheMikh posted...
when you consider the socioeconomic demographics the irs spends most of its time harassing (hint: it's not the ultra wealthy), there's a case to be made that defunding the irs is a progressive cause The reason they go after the poor is cause it is easier and actually doable with the funding and manpower they have. They need more funding and members to actually go after the rich, thats the reason why republicans want to cut as much funding and personal of the IRS. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 11/03/23 10:49:47 AM #21: |
Based. They should defund their own salaries too!
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UnsteadyOwl 11/03/23 10:58:56 AM #22: |
LightHawKnight posted...
The reason they go after the poor is cause it is easier and actually doable with the funding and manpower they have. They need more funding and members to actually go after the rich, thats the reason why republicans want to cut as much funding and personal of the IRS.Exactly. The whole reason Republicans want to cut IRS funding is it makes it pretty much impossible for them to audit ultra wealthy people with complicated finances. They want to help wealthy tax cheats get away with not paying what they owe. It's not even about saving money. The CBO has projected that hiring more IRS agents would bring in far more in additional revenue than it would cost. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myusernameislame 11/03/23 11:01:53 AM #23: |
Antifar posted... Cuts to the IRS do not offset spending. It's like if McDonald's tried to save money by selling fewer Big Macs. "Fiscally responsible! Government needs to be run like a business!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 11/03/23 11:02:08 AM #24: |
thronedfire2 posted...
no, they need more funding. the reason they don't just go after the rich is because that takes a lot more time and accountants.No accountants want to go work for the irs, its considered bottom of the barrel work. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BewmHedshot 11/03/23 11:02:37 AM #25: |
Sounds like the dirty dozen knew the bill was DOA and were just virtue signaling support for Israel. Apparently 9 of the 12 heavily rely on AIPAC election funding. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 11/03/23 11:05:09 AM #27: |
Slashing funds like this to the IRS should be seen as an act of treason, threats to the nation's ability to fund, and thus, defend itself.
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divot1338 11/03/23 11:05:35 AM #28: |
None of this matters since the Senate has stated it will not take this bill up.
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brestugo 11/03/23 11:13:28 AM #29: |
divot1338 posted...
None of this matters since the Senate has stated it will not take this bill up. Yeah, a "symbolic" vote at best. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MatzoTov 11/03/23 11:25:06 AM #30: |
Based. IRS exists only to hassle the working man when it could fund itself entirely by grabbing the actual taxable dollars from billionaires and corporations.
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Bass 11/03/23 11:29:08 AM #32: |
MatzoTov posted...
Based. IRS exists only to hassle the working man when it could fund itself entirely by grabbing the actual taxable dollars from billionaires and corporations.That requires more funds since the rich are able to hide their finances in more complicated ways. Also, it would require Democrats not to pass laws that go after us for selling a few items on eBay. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TerraSeeker 11/03/23 11:30:14 AM #33: |
People here actually like the IRS for some reason. Weird.
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divot1338 11/03/23 11:32:45 AM #34: |
TerraSeeker posted...
People here actually like the IRS for some reason. Weird.If we fire those IRS employees well be broke. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rynobot 11/03/23 11:33:21 AM #35: |
TerraSeeker posted...
People here actually like the IRS for some reason. Weird.Why would a law abiding tax paying citizen worry? --- GT: rynobot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 11/03/23 11:33:45 AM #36: |
Defunding the IRS is based
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Solid_Sonic 11/03/23 11:35:31 AM #37: |
The IRS could definitely do with some trimming and slimming so that's not something I'm against.
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UnsteadyOwl 11/03/23 11:38:50 AM #38: |
MatzoTov posted...
Based. IRS exists only to hassle the working man when it could fund itself entirely by grabbing the actual taxable dollars from billionaires and corporations.The IRS doesn't get to decide how much of the tax revenue it collects goes toward funding its own operations. That's decided by Congress. Solid_Sonic posted... The IRS could definitely do with some trimming and slimming so that's not something I'm against.Again, defunding the IRS mostly helps the ultra wealthy get away with not paying their taxes. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 11/03/23 11:41:34 AM #40: |
Solid_Sonic posted...
The IRS could definitely do with some trimming and slimming so that's not something I'm against. Agency is as small as a local Popeye's staff in contrast to the amount of taxpayers in this entire country so idk wtf you're talking about here. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 11/03/23 11:42:17 AM #41: |
Antifar posted... Cuts to the IRS do not offset spending. It's like if McDonald's tried to save money by selling fewer Big Macs.This. Republicans' bill is not about cutting IRS to fund Israel. It's taking a bipartisan supported issue (funding Israel) and inserting a poison pill IRS cut b/c their wealthy donors want to illegally horde as much money as possible. Giving IRS more budget would bring in more government money and ironically could be used to fund Israel or whatever else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid_Sonic 11/03/23 11:42:25 AM #42: |
I've always perceived them as inefficient and unoptimized.
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DarthAragorn 11/03/23 11:43:26 AM #43: |
Solid_Sonic posted...
I've always perceived them as inefficient and unoptimized.Because they're severely understaffed. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9-13900k | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 11/03/23 11:46:03 AM #45: |
TerraSeeker posted... People here actually like the IRS for some reason. Weird.Most here actually pay their taxes and don't have the resources to dodge paying their taxes. I don't care where you lean on the political scale. Most here don't have taxes so incredibly complex, the IRS would have a difficult time prosecuting hence why they need more resources. The rich however does, hence why they don't want the IRS funded. Since majority of Republicans back the rich, it goes without saying why they don't want the IRS having the resources to actually audit the rich and their taxes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid_Sonic 11/03/23 11:46:11 AM #46: |
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darkace77450 11/03/23 11:52:09 AM #48: |
Solid_Sonic posted... I've always perceived them as inefficient and unoptimized. Using that to justify cutting their funds makes as much sense as Bush cutting funding for under performing schools and expecting it to improve the school's academic performance. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heineken14 11/03/23 11:56:35 AM #49: |
thronedfire2 posted...
Yeah. The IRS was actually funded MORE last tax season and it increased people's ability to get their taxes done/refunds back faster as well as made more money by being able to audit wealthier people. People saying stupid shit like this is "based" are clueless. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 11/03/23 12:49:22 PM #50: |
Alteres posted...
No accountants want to go work for the irs, its considered bottom of the barrel work. probably because the pay for amount of work required is shit --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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