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Toonstrack
11/09/23 12:45:37 PM
#201:


Yea hes doing nothing but good things and deserves to be praised for that. A lot of his people in his positon don't and maybe you should ask them why instead of criticizing him..

Half the people commenting on this will go and stan their favorite celebrity/YTer who does NONE of this with the money they make and still think they're progressive. Lmfao.

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Gwynevere
11/09/23 12:57:32 PM
#202:


This topic reminded me that Tmaster put me on block for...some reason

Seems like he's still having regularly scheduled normal ones

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FortuneCookie
11/09/23 11:06:34 PM
#203:


MICHALECOLE posted...
Sure thats one way to describe the very real white savior problem

That makes it impossible for a white person to do good.

If they do nothing, they're part of the problem.
If they do something, they have a savior complex (which is also part of the problem).
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MICHALECOLE
11/09/23 11:19:09 PM
#204:


FortuneCookie posted...
That makes it impossible for a white person to do good.

If they do nothing, they're part of the problem.
If they do something, they have a savior complex (which is also part of the problem).
Oh I know I was just repeating what that other guy said

he thought it made him look smart so I thought Id try the same thing
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FortuneCookie
11/09/23 11:20:38 PM
#205:


MICHALECOLE posted...
Oh I know I was just repeating what that other guy said

he thought it made him look smart so I thought Id try the same thing

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MICHALECOLE
11/09/23 11:45:46 PM
#206:


FortuneCookie posted...
lol
I can see you came in late to the topic, if you read back it would make more sense
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DnDer
11/10/23 12:16:52 AM
#207:


Tmaster148 posted...
Well if you personally know the data on the well being built in areas of Africa that were in desperate need of a well built and that it solved the water issues in those areas, you could share it.

Sounds like almost every place in Africa could use a well. UNICEF says 30 minute round trip. Other sources, but multiple sources, I don't recognize say it's something like 5-6km to get clean and drinkable water.

Gotta believe that any well is a good well at that point.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b2399167.jpg

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MICHALECOLE
11/10/23 12:17:47 AM
#208:


DnDer posted...
Sounds like almost every place in Africa could use a well. UNICEF says 30 minute round trip. Other sources, but multiple sources, I don't recognize say it's something like 5-6km to get clean and drinkable water.

Gotta believe that any well is a good well at that point.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b2399167.jpg
Well well well

looks like we got some data
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BakonBitz
11/10/23 12:23:57 AM
#209:


DnDer posted...
Sounds like almost every place in Africa could use a well. UNICEF says 30 minute round trip. Other sources, but multiple sources, I don't recognize say it's something like 5-6km to get clean and drinkable water.

Gotta believe that any well is a good well at that point.
Don't worry, he'll shift to "well he likely didn't provide any provisions to keep the wells maintained."

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MICHALECOLE
11/10/23 12:24:51 AM
#210:


BakonBitz posted...
Don't worry, he'll shift to "well he likely didn't provide any provisions to keep the wells maintained."
At the end of the day, he did more harm than good

mr beast truly is a villain
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StealThisSheen
11/10/23 12:33:54 AM
#211:


BakonBitz posted...
Don't worry, he'll shift to "well he likely didn't provide any provisions to keep the wells maintained."

I don't think he'll put that much thought into it. He has already set up for "I haven't even seen evidence that the wells are real," so he'll just fall back on "The wells are fake."

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Glob
11/10/23 12:36:11 AM
#212:


Zikten posted...
Honestly, fuck him. After he randomly gave a house to a trick or treater, when he could have made sure it we t to a homeless person. I am getting the impression he is not actually a good person. He just likes looking like a good person

Well this is a shit take.
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Daremo
11/10/23 12:37:38 AM
#213:


An old story, this specific iteration stolen from Reddit:

There's a Jewish parable that tells of a rich man who wanted to do some good for the community. He went to the rabbi and asked what the community needed most. The rabbi told him the orphanage was in bad shape and the kids there were living in poor conditions and they desperately needed a new building.

The rich man went out and told the whole village that he was going to build a new orphanage. He set aside the money, purchased the land and the materials, and hired an architect and builders.

The day before the project was supposed to break ground, the rich man's rival told him, "you know, anonymous giving is a much higher form of charity than telling everyone about it like you've done. It's not good to do it for the publicity like that."

The rich man went back to the rabbi and asked if what his rival had said, was true. The rabbi explained that yes it was true, there are different levels of charity, the highest being preparing a body for burial since the recipient can never know and never return the favor, next was anonymous charity that no one else ever knows about, followed by charity known only to the recipient, followed by publicly known charity.

The rich man, realizing that he'd lowered the spiritual value of his charity by telling everyone about it and using it to improve his reputation. "In that case, I should cancel the new orphanage so I'm not using the publicity for personal gain."

"Do you think the orphans care about the spiritual purity of your motives?" Shouted the rabbi. "Build the damn orphanage!"

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Skyrazer
11/10/23 12:38:19 AM
#214:


This topic has some of the worst tall poppy syndrome I've seen.

I barely know anything about Mr Beast and never watched any of his videos, but goddamn have we become that cynical that people can't do any good deeds anymore without causing an uproar of some sort?

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MICHALECOLE
11/10/23 12:47:25 AM
#215:


Skyrazer posted...
tall poppy syndrome
Where the f do you guys come up with these things.
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tripleh213
11/10/23 12:50:18 AM
#216:


I have never watched his stuff but he has way too much money

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Skyrazer
11/10/23 1:15:49 AM
#217:


MICHALECOLE posted...
Where the f do you guys come up with these things.
Yeah I forgot tall poppy syndrome is a rather aussie-centric term, so you americanos likely never heard of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome#:~:text=In%20Australia%20and%20New%20Zealand,Cutting%20down%20the%20tall%20poppy%22.

In Australia and New Zealand, tall poppy syndrome refers to successful people being criticised. This occurs when their peers believe they are too successful, or are bragging about their success.[1][2] Intense scrutiny and criticism of such a person is termed as "Cutting down the tall poppy".

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ShineboxPhil
11/10/23 1:46:58 AM
#218:


Skyrazer posted...
This topic has some of the worst tall poppy syndrome I've seen.

I barely know anything about Mr Beast and never watched any of his videos, but goddamn have we become that cynical that people can't do any good deeds anymore without causing an uproar of some sort?

Same energy
https://streamable.com/66i37k

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St0rmFury
11/10/23 3:32:17 AM
#219:


The only criticism I can think of is if he build the wells without teaching the villagers how to maintain it.

There are also several articles I read before where wells built by foreigners tend to make those villages valuable and may attract the attention of nearby warlords. Then there are also cases where the village leaders become greedy and start charging fees to harvest water from the wells.

But the last 2 criticisms has nothing to do with the well builder, so yeah.

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Zakawer3
11/10/23 4:05:16 AM
#220:


The thing is, he does really look uncannily similar to the infamous White savior trope, even if he had genuine intention behind his actions.

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_Valigarmanda_
11/10/23 4:17:21 AM
#221:


It's because he has the most awkward smile ever and he seems like a bit of an AI

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/996ea5d1.jpg

But so long as he's putting his money towards great causes, I don't give a shit

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MarcyWarcy
11/10/23 4:27:01 AM
#222:


thats not an awkward smile thats a "i just shit in my pants realized i like how it feels" smile

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majin_nemesis
11/10/23 4:30:49 AM
#223:


Zakawer3 posted...
The thing is, he does really look uncannily similar to the infamous White savior trope, even if he had genuine intention behind his actions.
so if he was chinese there would be no problem? so white people can't help anyone can't do anything good because it ruin your white people are bad narrative, if whites don't do bad thing who are you going to blame for all the problems in the world?
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LeoRavus
11/10/23 4:42:23 AM
#224:


_Valigarmanda_ posted...
It's because he has the most awkward smile ever and he seems like a bit of an AI

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/996ea5d1.jpg

But so long as he's putting his money towards great causes, I don't give a shit

Goes to show no matter how goofy you may look, you can still become the biggest youtuber in the world.

Just looked it up and his channel's only second to an Indian record label, but the biggest individual youtuber estimated to be worth 1/2 billion. Kind of crazy.

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VeggetaX
11/10/23 4:43:10 AM
#225:


Glob posted...
Well this is a shit take.
I think he was being sarcastic

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shnangyboos
11/10/23 4:47:51 AM
#226:


VeggetaX posted...
I think he was being sarcastic


He wasn't. I'm sure every last bit of that post was picked up from some video he saw.

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TetsuoS2
11/10/23 4:52:36 AM
#227:


Glob posted...
Well this is a shit take.

dude always talks about stuff with 100% confidence regardless if it's right or wrong. Like with the Cait Sith pronounciation topic.

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_Valigarmanda_
11/10/23 5:22:29 AM
#228:


LeoRavus posted...
Goes to show no matter how goofy you may look, you can still become the biggest youtuber in the world.

Just looked it up and his channel's only second to an Indian record label, but the biggest individual youtuber estimated to be worth 1/2 billion. Kind of crazy.

Oh yeah, the dude has a whole business concern at this point - I ate a MrBeast chocolate bar a few months back (it was decent)

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ShineboxPhil
11/10/23 6:19:26 AM
#229:


VeggetaX posted...
I think he was being sarcastic

I think you don't know zikten

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:20:41 AM
#230:


TetsuoS2 posted...
dude always talks about stuff with 100% confidence regardless if it's right or wrong. Like with the Cait Sith pronounciation topic.

What was his take there? I didnt follow that topic.

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TetsuoS2
11/10/23 6:25:58 AM
#231:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/07239d97.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/95b2e7b0.jpg

there wasn't any retraction or acknowledgement of a mistake in between.

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ShineboxPhil
11/10/23 6:27:52 AM
#233:


ToteAll posted...
Has anyone mentioned that the entire reason he can do all this good is capitalism?

Just checking.

Capitalism continues to collects dubs

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TetsuoS2
11/10/23 6:30:15 AM
#235:


iirc it means wins

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:30:32 AM
#236:


ToteAll posted...
Has anyone mentioned that the entire reason he can do all this good is capitalism?

Just checking.

Itd just be nice if more people did it. The problem isnt entirely the fact that wealth is funnelled to the top - its that most of the top do nothing with it and often turn out to be terrible fucking people too.

For every MrBeast, there are dozens of Bobby Kotticks.

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LeoRavus
11/10/23 6:39:16 AM
#238:


_Valigarmanda_ posted...
Oh yeah, the dude has a whole business concern at this point - I ate a MrBeast chocolate bar a few months back (it was decent)

Supposedly he also runs 12 different youtube channels. I'd have to think that mostly means funds or produces because who can do that

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:45:23 AM
#239:


ToteAll posted...
This is very correct.

That's why heavily regulated and taxed capitalism is the best.

This. I think most of us critical of capitalism would be satisfied if tax loopholes were closed, tax rates on the rich increased (and the funds used appropriately) and workers were paid well and protected.

We dont need billionaires to cease to exist entirely. As long as they dont wield the ridiculous amount of economic and political power they currently do.

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DnDer
11/10/23 6:47:05 AM
#240:


Dark_Arbron posted...
We dont need billionaires to cease to exist entirely. As long as they dont wield the ridiculous amount of economic and political power they currently do.

That's why taxing them to the point they can't be billionaires is the first necessary step.

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:49:14 AM
#242:


DnDer posted...
That's why taxing them to the point they can't be billionaires is the first necessary step.

Ill rephrase, the rich.

I agree no one should be a billionaire - concentrating that much money in one place is the other side of a rather nasty coin: this is how many people are correspondingly poor.

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superbot400
11/10/23 8:12:13 AM
#243:


This whole thing is dumb.

Criticism about Volunteerism in Africa countries Is that is not a replacement for institutional and government reform. While Mr.Breast are appreciated, but often media coverage ignores internal politics of certain countries. Activists in Kenya just want to go further with their reform.

Volutneerism often exists to patch a system that is in failures . Billionaires alone cant fix poverty on the USA, let alone Kenya or Global poverty . What activists want is a Long-Term solutions to help develops countries like Kenya.

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BakonBitz
11/10/23 11:20:14 AM
#244:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Itd just be nice if more people did it. The problem isnt entirely the fact that wealth is funnelled to the top - its that most of the top do nothing with it and often turn out to be terrible fucking people too.

For every MrBeast, there are dozens of Bobby Kotticks.
Yeah, he has even expressed that it's sad that a Youtuber of all people has to be the one to go out and do these things and that it should be other rich people/governments.

I'm glad he's stepping up. Apparently by the time he passes he wants to make sure every bit of money he raised on his career ends up going to support the world.

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Corbenik
11/10/23 1:19:56 PM
#245:


ToteAll posted...
What does "dubs" mean?
a dub is short for double u
which is short for win
jk i made that up rn


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Jupiter
11/10/23 4:30:03 PM
#246:


Corbenik posted...
a dub is short for double u
which is short for win
jk i made that up rn
That's actually it. >_> It's why the Golden State Warriors are also called the Dubs. Short for W

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AssAssasin69
11/10/23 4:35:40 PM
#247:


Zikten posted...
Honestly, fuck him. After he randomly gave a house to a trick or treater, when he could have made sure it we t to a homeless person. I am getting the impression he is not actually a good person. He just likes looking like a good person
He didnt give the free house to who I wanted him too! What a rich asshole

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Mibahlzitch
11/10/23 4:51:49 PM
#248:


I mean, I get it, I'm jealous as fuck of this guy. He's successful and popular and he's doing tons of charity work to achieve it; it makes you think "Well fuck, I like the idea of helping orphans and poor people too but I'm not rich doing it, I wish I had done that" and it gets you angry. Maybe the guy even is kind of bigheaded and happy about being popular, fuck if I know. But I get it, man, it makes you wish you could quit your job and somehow make money just giving stuff to people in need, right?

But I feel like getting too pissed off at the guy is just missing the point too much. That parable/story someone posted from Reddit earlier in the topic has the right of it; if he's doing good deeds who even cares if he sucks and may deserve criticism in other areas, he's still doing the good thing. I'd go as far as to say this for people who deflect to Elon Musk as well; yeah, Musk is an asshole who deserves criticism for a lot of things, but if some of his money is going to a genuinely good cause, that's not something he should stop it's more like "Oh good, at least something he didn't isn't a waste of time."

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im_not_13
11/10/23 4:52:20 PM
#249:


Complaining about people helping other people is the definition of "white people problems"

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11/10/23 6:03:52 PM
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