Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Mafia topic 8: Child's Play

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• Each of your "traits" are named the same as one other participant in the Trial, including this one. Their descriptions will mirror the original version of the trait if a player has access to actions that allow them to read it.
• The Trial itself differs on even and odd days - those who were Killer on day 1 become Survivor, and vice versa. Most traits will change accordingly, and all powers are inextricably linked to traits.
• You are forewarned that there will be a player who is or becomes Pinhead. Pinhead does not play by your rules and will be able to control one of the day's events entirely until a later condition is met. You are strongly advised to not interfere with this, as it will resolve itself organically without your input and largely will not affect your win condition.
• If you would like, once per game, you may ask the Host (via DM) for an appropriate selection from the safelist chosen at random. The Host will attempt to discreetly remove this from their visible safelist.

• you win with SOLO QUEUE on even days+nights if all SURVIVE WITH FRIENDS are eliminated.
• you win with the KILL YOUR FRIENDS team on odd days/nights if they outnumber both you and the living SOLO QUEUE players.
• you lose if the opposite happens, or if you are killed, eliminated by the end of day vote, or otherwise removed from the game.

Red - awkward first post miller claim hes been slow to elaborate on,

Corrik, what the hell was your last second vote change?

As BCT said, I was roleblocked. As all of you, town or otherwise will have confirmed that I was telling the truth after the game, it sucks because I finally picked the right person to protect. In this case it was protection by roleblocking anyone who came to visit, but you get my point. Sorry I couldnt keep you around Dumey.

im probably dying tonight if we make it that far because with BCT vouching for me getting RBd, I feel scum is not gonna succeed in getting me mislynched like they obviously kept me alive to do. And of course it may not matter if we lynch wrong and the game ends, but I randomly feel confident that Im not getting mislynched for a change.

So Ashe lynch I guess?

1. Redirects X's action to Y
2. Redirects all actions against Z to Y (aka a one-way busdrive)

Um, I killed the person who won with scum. If I was wrong on brohan, Sultan and scum won. So i saved the game.

So Ashe lynch I guess?

If brohan is town, then scum was trying to win by saving Sultan yesterday. Thus, everyone who tried to save Sultan is suspect.

Okay. Time to elaborate. I've seen redirector work one of two ways:
1. Redirects X's action to Y
2. Redirects all actions against Z to Y (aka a one-way busdrive)
Meaning, if it were #1, scum would've said "Redirect BCT to Wall" - thus roleblocking Wall - but if it were #2, scum woud've had to guess my initial target correct in order to use the power.

In the... I'd guess 10% chance it's the latter, I wanna refrain from claiming who I aimed for a little, just to see if there's more we can get out of that.

He would've won with town some nights and scum on others. What are you talking about?

This feels like a scum post.

So does this. You do realize you were the one who changed last-second, yes? And now you're gonna say you were "holding off" on doing that, aren't you? I don't buy that at all.

I wanted to actually try to kill scum before we got to MYLO.

Seems reasonable yeah.

Also, BCT you know for sure you were redirected? It seems timely that you counterclaimed wallz and then wallz couldn't confirm his power, and then wallz somehow changed his power also??? He says it not was roleblocking anyone who came to visit him and not what he said before?

I received a message saying that I roleblocked Wall, when I had outright stated to the host that he was not my target as I was explaining my thoughts. The one I said I was roleblocking was somebody else.

Vote: Red

Yeah that's almost never how redirecting works. It's not spose to let you know your target changed. Otherwise it would just be a confirming town power for scum

Almost assuredly its being used to try and confirm wallz as town, who is clearly the most scum looking person today with being counterclaimed and trying to save brohan to win with Sultan.

He would've won with town some nights and scum on others. What are you talking about?

Town gets the same results as scum does. If their target was changed, they will always know - at least that's how it's been in my experience. Like if a cop gets redirected, they will get a result "You have scanned __ innocent" - the same applies to any other role, yes?

Correct. And scum would never have used this power on two town if they know it confirms them both town.

Please explain how this would confirm both me and Wall town. I get how it confirms me, but not Wall.

Wallz tried to save brohan at the end oddly enough.

FYI I don't know how scum redirector works this time, but I got my RB moved to Wall, who I deliberately avoided targeting because he needed to prove himself (thus this is null for him - scum doesn't want us to have that result). Death having an odd night immunity to that is a red flag since this was an even night.

How did he try to save brohan? He voted for him.

Bah. I couldnt be sure if scum would kill one of the claimed protections tonight or if they would go for Edumey. I targeted Wallz last night as he was the only one who claimed to have powers on both nights and figured he would be more of a threat to scum if he was town. Edumey was a nilla this night after all.

But I was wrong about who scum would kill, and my action didnt do anything.

I didnt expect redirections to happen tonight either, but I did wonder (and moreso now) if scum just has a dedicated redirector instead of a dedicated roleblocker. Or maybe whoever their redirector is swaps between players.
Did anyone even claim to be blocked regularly so far? Besides Ashe and Wallz that is, whose blocks were claimed by Corrik and BCT respectively.
And regardless of the trait swaps, I expect scum has a way to hinder townpowers on both nights.

Given that since I dont move on odd nights, my odd power cannot feasibly interact with redirection anyway. Just feels that its there to give us a heads up about redirectors existing.

PoE is still looking like Ashe, Brohan, Corrik, IGCD and Red to me.

I am not calling him certain town there.
But nothing I have seen has made me think Wallz is certain scum either.
(I also still dont agree with you that Ashe has to be town)
Plus I have genuinely liked his posts more than anyone I mentioned in that list of mine anyway.

PS, you need claim the rest of your traits Corrik.

Correct. And scum would never have used this power on two town if they know it confirms them both town. This is NOT how scum redirector usually works. They had to of known using the redirects was just going to confirm town.

I'm suggesting they used it specifically on you to wallz to try and confirm wallz town while also giving him a timely reason why he couldn't self confirm his power.

Ashe looks a whole lot better than wallz. Can you even go as far to tell me what Ashe has done worse than wallz? I mean, if you have Ashe behind wallz then I wanna know how.

as for redirect results. It was either me as host of star trek or me playing in another game where redirect results told you your target changed.

Igcd i stayed mostly out of postgame last time cause i was frustrated and knew had nothing nice to say.

If you try to throw a second game in a row i will be fucking livid.

This makes no sense to me. If it works the way I think it does, scum got a message "You successfully redirected BCT to Wall" in their Discord. Whether or not I had an action redirected was not disclosed, just that they were successful in using their power. Which would mean the person I aimed for was NOT the redirector. If I had aimed for the redirector, I succeed in preventing them from redirecting me, and then I claim a successful RB of someone I presume to be scum.

If they redirected everyone who targeted my target to Wall, however, different story. This means that Wall himself is the redirector (as his power would indicate) and he directed the block onto himself, which is basically last game all over again. If you direct the roleblock onto yourself, you get the roleblocked message even though your action technically succeeded.

Town gets the same results as scum does. If their target was changed, they will always know - at least that's how it's been in my experience. Like if a cop gets redirected, they will get a result "You have scanned __ innocent" - the same applies to any other role, yes?

Like I said in my first post today, this redirection is null for Wall. Scum didn't want us to have his result. Why was that? Was it because it would have stopped them from killing or because his powers are fake?

Also, IGCD, that wasn't a serious vote, right? Please do not actually vote before everyone has checked in. It is presumably MYLO.

I just think Wallz has been more active and giving off a better vibe.
That and I still dislike how Ashe backpedaled his claim.
As far as content goes I dont even remember what else Ashe did.
Though thats on me as well, and I will look back in each topic to fill the gaps in my memory on each player, even those outside my PoE

PoE was the wrong word to use anyway.
Its more like a top 5
The only one I feel very comfortable about is BCT

[4] Sultan - (SBell), Death, IGCD, red, Corrik
[3] Brohan - (Corrik), (Death), Dumey, Sultan, wallz
[1] Red - SBell
[0] Corrik - (IGCD)
[0] Wallz - (BCT)
[0] Ashe - (Dumey), (IGCD), (Sultan)

Doublechecking... please wait (also please actually unvote properly next time, giving the benefit of the doubt to both.)

Let me translate this. Scum Corrik is big mad Isquen told BCT where his night action got redirected to. Lol.

Think about what Corrik is saying - this isnt how redirect normally works, but also, scum never wouldve done this if they knew it would confirm BCT and wallz town, so scum had to have known BCT would get told it got redirected to me. And scum team used this knowledge in an attempt to confirm me town.

No, the this isnt how it normally works is Corrik being mad and hes ticked that town BCT got confirmation that I, the main mislynch option of the day, was roleblocked. And saying scum never wouldve done this if they knew is quite literally Corrik saying the scum team would not have done this if they knew this would happen.

So I guess this was the first time scum team tried using their redirect lol. Maybe scum has a Jack and the redirect was one time use.