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Billyionaire
11/10/23 1:43:36 AM
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I'm listening

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Trumble
11/10/23 1:44:24 AM
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Matt.

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Daremo
11/10/23 1:46:50 AM
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If you can find nothing, let me know. Every time we think we found nothing, it turns out to be something.

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ai123
11/10/23 1:47:03 AM
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You're asking the wrong question.

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SomeLikeItHoth
11/10/23 1:47:48 AM
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There has never not been nothing.

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ai123
11/10/23 1:49:01 AM
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Daremo posted...
If you can find nothing, let me know. Every time we think we found nothing, it turns out to be something.
Yep.

Even in a vacuum, energy fluctuates and mass can be created out of nothing.

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Billyionaire
11/10/23 1:51:28 AM
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ai123 posted...
Yep.

Even in a vacuum, energy fluctuates and mass can be created out of nothing.
God created the universe then

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Trumble
11/10/23 1:53:08 AM
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Billyionaire posted...
God created the universe then
No, Matt did. God just kinda sat there and offered unsolicited and fairly useless advice.

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Arcanine2009
11/10/23 1:55:37 AM
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Billyionaire posted...
I'm listening
Fire God Liu Kang

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KajeI
11/10/23 2:04:47 AM
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God of the gaps lul.

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OriginalPlain2
11/10/23 2:05:08 AM
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What would nothing even look like without atoms

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Nukazie
11/10/23 2:05:48 AM
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jeff

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Zikten
11/10/23 3:55:52 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1fa5cc75.jpgI began this book like a year ago though I never finished it. I need to. It's interesting though. It tries to explain how the universe could arrive without a god. Basically talks about the first moments of the universe and how everything expanded
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Zikten
11/10/23 3:57:50 AM
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We recently discovered that even in so called void of space, there isn't "nothing". Space itself has material to it. And I've heard we might even be able to one day harvest that for energy. I forget what they call it. Zero point energy or something like that
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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:03:01 AM
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I used to angst over the fact Im going to die without ever learning things like the true size of the universe, whats outside it, what predated the Big Bang and such. Nowadays not so much, since our species as a whole will never know either. We dont even have 200 years left, maybe not even 100.

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coolguyjimmy
11/10/23 4:04:10 AM
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Ask my wife, she can create something out of nothing. And seemingly does so, most weekends.
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punkfanalways
11/10/23 4:10:12 AM
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If it was created by god then who created god?
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Trumble
11/10/23 4:27:34 AM
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punkfanalways posted...
If it was created by god then who created god?
Supergod.

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 4:41:42 AM
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punkfanalways posted...
If it was created by god then who created god?

By definition an omnipotent being must always have existed. And thats just the tip of the why omnipotence cannot logically exist iceberg.

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ai123
11/10/23 4:56:38 AM
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Billyionaire posted...
God created the universe then

That is the opposite of what this means. God is not necessary for creation.


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Nukazie
11/10/23 5:59:10 AM
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ai123 posted...
God is not necessary for creation.
and it wasn't necessary for god to create life/earth

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 6:01:44 AM
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ai123 posted...
That is the opposite of what this means. God is not necessary for creation.

Its also textbook fallacy.

You say God didnt create the universe! Then where did it come from, huh? Right, you have nothing. So well go with God. So far thats worked fine and doesnt need reviewing.

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punkfanalways
11/10/23 7:54:45 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
By definition an omnipotent being must always have existed. And thats just the tip of the why omnipotence cannot logically exist iceberg.

Yes but I don't find it any more mind bending than "matter came from nothing" or "matter always existed".
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Southernfatman
11/10/23 7:57:15 AM
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TC can't get his trolling fix from just simping for the rich so he's doing this now.

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OriginalPlain2
11/10/23 8:06:07 AM
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if god can will it, can he not know or forget

if god created an identical deity such as himself, and the identical deity declares himself true God which would be the true creator

can god go back in time before he was created (for those pesky who created god ?s)

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Dark_Arbron
11/10/23 8:10:54 AM
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OriginalPlain2 posted...
if god can will it, can he not know or forget

if god created an identical deity such as himself, and the identical deity declares himself true God which would be the true creator

can god go back in time before he was created (for those pesky who created god ?s)

That's why omnipotence is nonsensical.

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punkfanalways
11/10/23 9:09:11 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
TC can't get his trolling fix from just simping for the rich so he's doing this now.

Youd have to be pretty thin skinned to think this topic is trolling.
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s0nicfan
11/10/23 9:11:41 AM
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It's strange to me that the very same people who have no problem believing in a being that is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, struggle so much with the idea that the universe simply has always been. People will insist that the universe must have been created by someone or something, and then their answer is it was created by a being that itself was not created by someone or something.

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ANort175
11/10/23 9:13:19 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Ask my wife, she can create something out of nothing. And seemingly does so, most weekends.
At first I thought you were complimenting her cooking then I realized it might be something else and now I'm not sure what to think.

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2001mark
11/10/23 9:16:58 AM
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Prior the big bang, there might've merely been the death of an earlier universe.
In which case, that would only logically imply an infinite history of universes.
Thereby, we as humanity know really nothing much about anything at all.
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coolguyjimmy
11/10/23 9:19:21 AM
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ANort175 posted...
At first I thought you were complimenting her cooking then I realized it might be something else and now I'm not sure what to think.

You've never heard the idiom "Make something out of nothing"?

To raise a fuss about something minor, trivial, or unimportant; to exaggerate or put too much focus on a minor issue and make it seem like a major one.(Often uses the actual word"something.")
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/make+something+out+of+nothing
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Notti
11/13/23 5:17:27 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's strange to me that the very same people who have no problem believing in a being that is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, struggle so much with the idea that the universe simply has always been. People will insist that the universe must have been created by someone or something, and then their answer is it was created by a being that itself was not created by someone or something.


But does an infinite regress of history really make sense in a universe that is purely natural?

How does anything start.

The only escape hatch seems to be something illogical/unnatural.

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Trumble
11/13/23 5:23:27 AM
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Notti posted...
s0nicfan posted...

But does an infinite regress of history really make sense in a universe that is purely natural?

How does anything start.

The only escape hatch seems to be something illogical/unnatural.
I farted and it became the universe. The fart was so potent that I was able to make this happen without existing yet.

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Notti
11/15/23 9:53:46 PM
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Trumble posted...
I farted and it became the universe. The fart was so potent that I was able to make this happen without existing yet.


A tootle in time.

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David1988
11/15/23 9:55:49 PM
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what was before nothing doe

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Irony
11/15/23 10:32:05 PM
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That part that's between your butthole and your balls

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