D authoritarian leftism always just leads back to State Capitalism

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Accolon 11/10/23 8:44:34 PM #1:	C --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg <cite>Accolon posted [p:977148783] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>C </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/10/23 8:45:20 PM #2:	D --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:977148795] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoyoteTheGreat 11/10/23 8:47:09 PM #3:	The USSR wasn't really state capitalist though. And neither were the various Stalinist offshoot countries. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. <cite>CoyoteTheGreat posted [p:977148819] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>The USSR wasn't really state capitalist though. And neither were the various Stalinist offshoot countries. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/10/23 8:47:23 PM #4:	Please give an example of authoritarian leftism. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:977148823] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>Please give an example of authoritarian leftism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 11/10/23 8:53:01 PM #5:	I dont watch that Naruto crap --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:977148912] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>I dont watch that Naruto crap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 11/10/23 8:54:28 PM #6:	D. "Authoritarian leftism" isn't a thing, and if you're using it as a synonym for stste capitalism, then the phrase "state capitalism leads back to state capitalism " makes no sense. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:977148935] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>D."Authoritarian leftism" isn't a thing, and if you're using it as a synonym for stste capitalism, then the phrase "state capitalism leads back to state capitalism " makes no sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/10/23 8:57:24 PM #7:	IceCreamOnStero posted... "Authoritarian leftism" isn't a thing Whats the upper left quadrant --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:977148975] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>"Authoritarian leftism" isn't a thing</quote>Whats the upper left quadrant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 11/10/23 9:03:25 PM #8:	Doe posted... Whats the upper left quadrant Mfw the political compass isn't a good representation of politics and is instead a stripped down spectrum designed to produce easily digestible axes. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:977149061] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Whats the upper left quadrant</quote>Mfw the political compass isn't a good representation of politics and is instead a stripped down spectrum designed to produce easily digestible axes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/10/23 9:09:51 PM #9:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Mfw the political compass isn't a good representation of politics and is instead a stripped down spectrum designed to produce easily digestible axes. Okay I'll rephrase. Why don't you think authoritarian leftism exists --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:977149146] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Mfw the political compass isn't a good representation of politics and is instead a stripped down spectrum designed to produce easily digestible axes.</quote>Okay I'll rephrase. Why don't you think authoritarian leftism exists </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 11/10/23 9:21:53 PM #10:	Doe posted... Okay I'll rephrase. Why don't you think authoritarian leftism exists The core left wing principle of the removal of social hierarchies is inherently incompatible with authoritarianism. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:977149290] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Okay I'll rephrase. Why don't you think authoritarian leftism exists</quote>The core left wing principle of the removal of social hierarchies is inherently incompatible with authoritarianism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoyoteTheGreat 11/10/23 9:23:21 PM #11:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Mfw the political compass isn't a good representation of politics and is instead a stripped down spectrum designed to produce easily digestible axes. That's true, but right communism still does exist. That's generally what people are talking about when people talk about authoritarian leftism. Also, its important to note that while the removal of hierarchies versus the establishment of them can be an adequate summary of the left-right axis, different left wing ideologies differ in what hierarchies they wish to remove and their plans for removing them just as right wing ideologies differ in which hierarchies they wish to establish and their plans for establishing them. The plan of Stalinism is generally the removal of economic hierarchies, but it does so by establishing a strong central leader and cult of personality, for example. This is how right communism uses "right" wing means (establishing a strong central leader, a hierarchy where all are under that figure) to try to accomplish "left" wing goals (Ending economic hierarchies). The opposite can be true too. Right libertarianism for example has a left wing means of removing a hierarchy (get rid of the state) to accomplish a right wing goal (establish business as the new most powerful hierarchy). --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. <cite>CoyoteTheGreat posted [p:977149317] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Mfw the political compass isn't a good representation of politics and is instead a stripped down spectrum designed to produce easily digestible axes.</quote>That's true, but right communism still does exist. That's generally what people are talking about when people talk about authoritarian leftism. Also, its important to note that while the removal of hierarchies versus the establishment of them can be an adequate summary of the left-right axis, different left wing ideologies differ in what hierarchies they wish to remove and their plans for removing them just as right wing ideologies differ in which hierarchies they wish to establish and their plans for establishing them. The plan of Stalinism is generally the removal of economic hierarchies, but it does so by establishing a strong central leader and cult of personality, for example. This is how right communism uses "right" wing means (establishing a strong central leader, a hierarchy where all are under that figure) to try to accomplish "left" wing goals (Ending economic hierarchies). The opposite can be true too. Right libertarianism for example has a left wing means of removing a hierarchy (get rid of the state) to accomplish a right wing goal (establish business as the new most powerful hierarchy). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/10/23 9:37:18 PM #12:	IceCreamOnStero posted... The core left wing principle of the removal of social hierarchies is inherently incompatible with authoritarianism. Authoritarian leftism is the pragmatic use of power to achieve leftist ends. Not the leftist use of power to achieve authoritarian ends. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:977149540] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>The core left wing principle of the removal of social hierarchies is inherently incompatible with authoritarianism.</quote>Authoritarian leftism is the pragmatic use of power to achieve leftist ends. Not the leftist use of power to achieve authoritarian ends. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModernPost 11/10/23 9:39:54 PM #14:	Doe posted... Whats the upper left quadrant Political compasses are fun and all, but they aren't real. You might as well believe in horoscopes. --- The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth, it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Ecclesiastes FunWithAFryPan <cite>ModernPost posted [p:977149573] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Whats the upper left quadrant</quote>Political compasses are fun and all, but they aren't real. You might as well believe in horoscopes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnsestralRecall 11/10/23 9:41:42 PM #15:	CoyoteTheGreat posted... right communism still does exist No it doesn't <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:977149593] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>CoyoteTheGreat posted... </cite><quote>right communism still does exist</quote>No it doesn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 11/10/23 10:09:37 PM #16:	The auth-left denial on CE is crazy --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:977150030] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>The auth-left denial on CE is crazy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 11/10/23 10:19:23 PM #18:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That's called a vanguard party --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:977150142] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That's called a vanguard party </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iyami 11/10/23 10:19:41 PM #19:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Please tell me you don't actually think a message board is a dictatorship <cite>Iyami posted [p:977150148] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Please tell me you don't actually think a message board is a dictatorship </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 11/10/23 11:02:40 PM #20:	Doe posted... The auth-left denial on CE is crazy Leftism is "oppressive", to right wingers. The right can't handle being held accountable for fake news, respecting bodily autonomy, law enforcement that doesn't escalate situations with military weapons and tactics, access to resources that get people's lives on track so they aren't subject to mass incarceration... --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:977150673] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>The auth-left denial on CE is crazy</quote>Leftism is "oppressive", to right wingers. The right can't handle being held accountable for fake news, respecting bodily autonomy, law enforcement that doesn't escalate situations with military weapons and tactics, access to resources that get people's lives on track so they aren't subject to mass incarceration... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 11/11/23 1:07:35 AM #21:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] egalitarian champion Joseph Stalin --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:977151988] in C/D author... [t:80616990]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> egalitarian champion Joseph Stalin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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