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ZannoL 02/01/24 7:58:39 PM #1: |
Nine of the 10 OF creators Business Insider spoke with for this story said they'd had long-term digital relationships with fans that extended well beyond sexuality. Some call it a "girlfriend experience" and charge top dollar, while others treat them more like friendships. Many said they believed these connections were what set OF apart from other porn-focused platforms. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/808faae5.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ironman2009 02/01/24 7:59:05 PM #2: |
i'm sure that will help them
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FolkenRawr 02/01/24 8:00:09 PM #3: |
Imagine asserting this is new, and novel to OF.
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Kai_Laguna 02/01/24 8:01:02 PM #4: |
It's definitely unhealthy but the question is, which is more unhealthy, these parasocial one or not experiencing them at all? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 02/01/24 8:01:09 PM #5: |
That's honestly sad to hear. I'm against having a parasocial relationship in general. That's why I always follow the "don't meet your heroes" mentality.
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SuperExcitebike 02/01/24 8:01:13 PM #6: |
They might trick themselves into thinking it's a connection, but they're talking to paid employees or robots
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Cobra1010 02/01/24 8:01:30 PM #7: |
ironman2009 posted...
i'm sure that will help them Its a symptom rather than the actual illness. Finding the actual source and to cure it, is much harder. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 02/01/24 8:05:23 PM #8: |
SuperExcitebike posted... They might trick themselves into thinking it's a connection, but they're talking to paid employees or robots ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BloodMoon7 02/01/24 8:13:36 PM #9: |
Same but it's anime and video game women for me fam. Have to wonder which is more sad, a love that isn't real or loving something that's not real.
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Guide 02/01/24 8:15:02 PM #10: |
I wonder if this is better or worse than when men would go to strip clubs for the same reason.
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trivialbeing 02/01/24 8:16:41 PM #11: |
it sucks to be a straight man in the dating game these days ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 02/01/24 8:23:19 PM #12: |
Kai_Laguna posted...
It's definitely unhealthy but the question is, which is more unhealthy, these parasocial one or not experiencing them at all? Parasocial ones can provide just enough of an ultimately unsatisfying thing to prevent you from seeking a real relationship and also often leads to financial issues as well. Not like "I'm bankrupt from OF" issues but still. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 02/01/24 8:25:42 PM #13: |
SuperExcitebike posted...
They might trick themselves into thinking it's a connection, but they're talking to paid employees or robots Yeah if there was like a guarantee it was the celebrity running it and answering messages instead of likely ChatGPT or an assistant I'd have a tiny bit more understanding It's just so likely you're donating money with zero actual interaction --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 02/01/24 8:30:49 PM #14: |
63%? Jesus christ. I always thought it was like, a quarter at most. What were the survey parameters?
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IceCreamOnStero 02/01/24 8:31:28 PM #15: |
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Yeah if there was like a guarantee it was the celebrity running it and answering messages instead of likely ChatGPT or an assistant I'd have a tiny bit more understandingEven if it wasn't some generated thing, there's still no actual interaction. Its completely hollow and artifical. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 02/01/24 8:31:38 PM #16: |
What could go wrong??
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Enclave 02/01/24 8:37:42 PM #17: |
Oh look, it's the usual porn panic just reflavoured for modern times.
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ZannoL 02/01/24 8:39:10 PM #18: |
Enclave posted... Oh look, it's the usual porn panic just reflavoured for modern times.Enclave how much have you spent so far? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 02/01/24 8:44:52 PM #19: |
ZannoL posted...
Enclave how much have you spent so far? $0 --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 02/01/24 8:46:14 PM #20: |
Enclave posted... $0Good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cobra1010 02/01/24 8:49:35 PM #21: |
So if 60% men below 30 are single but only 30% women are, of the same age group. Then that means the women are dating older men.
But if there are roughly equal amount of men and women on the planet. Then whats happening to the older women, like the women in their 30s-40s. Unless this is like the golden era for chads who are fucking like 3 chicks each. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug ... Copied to Clipboard!
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berlyman101 02/01/24 8:50:51 PM #22: |
Cobra1010 posted...
So if 60% men below 30 are single but only 30% women are, of the same age group. Then that means the women are dating older men. That's a bingo! --- "They think it don't be like it is, but it do." -Oscar Gamble ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 02/01/24 8:51:04 PM #23: |
Enclave posted...
Oh look, it's the usual porn panic just reflavoured for modern times. Not sure how you could possibly interpret that from the article. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 02/01/24 8:52:47 PM #24: |
Cobra1010 posted...
So if 60% men below 30 are single but only 30% women are, of the same age group. Then that means the women are dating older men. There's also the fact that its self reported. If men and women are reporting dufferent things as "single" its going to skew results --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 02/01/24 9:09:41 PM #25: |
Likely not real? It isn't real. It's transactional and one sided. It's not helping these people to tell them it's real. As for is it unhealthy, yes. The men struggling to find a relationship, OF isn't going to be your ticket to reversing that problem. If anything else it's feeding into why these men are having trouble. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 02/01/24 9:28:43 PM #26: |
Guide posted...
Not sure how you could possibly interpret that from the article. Are you joking? Men are lonely, men are seeking connections, blah, blah, blah, just a new twist on the same ole panic. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 02/01/24 9:31:28 PM #27: |
Enclave posted...
Are you joking? Men are lonely, men are seeking connections Are they not lonely and seeking connections? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 02/01/24 9:35:29 PM #29: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] My one friend admitted in group chat that he spent nearly 700 dollars in the span of 2 months. He told us because he wanted us to keep him accountable. He hasnt spent on OF since. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 02/01/24 9:36:33 PM #30: |
Feel like the loneliness epidemic is gonna cause an incel epidemic
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Revisited 02/01/24 9:39:23 PM #31: |
Guide posted... I wonder if this is better or worse than when men would go to strip clubs for the same reason.Was that the reason the boomer generation and beyond went to those smelly, disgusting disease ridden places? Huh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 02/01/24 9:58:33 PM #33: |
I'm pushing 40 and people only talk to me when they want something. I enjoy my peace and solitude and would never spend money on attention.
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Aloc 02/01/24 10:10:44 PM #34: |
Remember how feminists complain about being invisible but ignore when men feel invisible?
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Revisited 02/01/24 10:14:05 PM #35: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yeah I know what it's like to be lonely but this... this ain't it. I wouldn't even pay for sex, so I don't understand these people paying for merely pixels on a screen, not even the actual person being in front of them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 02/01/24 10:14:47 PM #36: |
Guide posted...
Are they not lonely and seeking connections? I'm just saying that this is nothing new, it's a different twist on the same ole porn panic we've always had. Shit's exhausting. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 02/01/24 10:21:54 PM #37: |
Enclave posted...
I'm just saying that this is nothing new, it's a different twist on the same ole porn panic we've always had. Shit's exhausting. You're saying this percentage of this demographic is nothing new? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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buddah86 02/01/24 10:23:21 PM #38: |
Lol simps
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Enclave 02/01/24 10:27:41 PM #39: |
Guide posted...
You're saying this percentage of this demographic is nothing new? How did they do the polling, what areas did they poll, without actually looking at the polling data it's hard to draw any kind of real conclusion but that's something news articles rarely care about because a scare mongering article gets more clicks and generates more interactions. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 02/01/24 10:44:45 PM #40: |
Enclave posted...
How did they do the polling, what areas did they poll, without actually looking at the polling data it's hard to draw any kind of real conclusion but that's something news articles rarely care about because a scare mongering article gets more clicks and generates more interactions. Ugh, I'll find the link in the console. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Pew Research Center conducted this study to better understand single Americans, from their romantic goals to their experiences with online dating. This survey was conducted among 6,034 U.S. adults from July 5-17, 2022. This included 4,996 respondents from the Centers American Trends Panel (ATP), an online survey panel that is recruited through national, random sampling of residential addresses. This way nearly all U.S. adults have a chance of selection. It also included an oversample of 1,038 respondents from Ipsos KnowledgePanel who indicated that they are lesbian, gay or bisexual (LGB), with oversampled groups weighted back to reflect proportions in the population. The survey is weighted to be representative of the U.S. adult population by gender, race, ethnicity, partisan affiliation, education and other categories. Read more about the ATPs methodology. Fairly small sample size, at least it's a wide net. But regardless of that, you're taking one subject and making it about something else. Like, "They can go to Pornhub and get naked people and sexual videos," Rae Richmond, another content creator, said. "They don't come to OF for that. They come to OF to make a connection with the creator." This is pointedly not about porn. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 02/01/24 11:06:22 PM #41: |
I'd rather just find a chatty cam-girl.
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Enclave 02/01/24 11:30:12 PM #42: |
Guide posted...
This is pointedly not about porn. Except it is, this is far from the first time we've heard these sorts of arguments, this is just a slight twist on the past. The idea that "Oh no, men are finding it hard to make real connections because of porn thing!" is an old as hell thing to bring up. For what they're talking about specifically here? People said shit like this about strip clubs and phone lines and just all sorts of stuff. I'm sure you can find stuff about cam girls, people are still going to get in relationships the world will keep spinning. But hey, if you want to get into some pity party about oh woe is men, they need to go to OnlyFans to find companionship then have at it, it's not a real problem though in wider society. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 02/01/24 11:33:34 PM #43: |
Guide posted...
Fairly small sample size, That's not a small sample size at all. Why do people keep saying stuff like that? --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 02/01/24 11:49:16 PM #44: |
Enclave posted...
The idea that "Oh no, men are finding it hard to make real connections because of porn thing!" is an old as hell thing to bring up. It is a very old thing, but that's not what this thing is, though I see there's not much point in furthering this with you. Enclave posted... it's not a real problem though in wider society.This, however... Where is this coming from? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 02/01/24 11:58:19 PM #45: |
Trying to get in to a meaningful relationship with a creator (who is probably already in a relationship with someone), alongside 20,000 other hopefuls... you'd have better luck talking to someone at random out on the street.
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ZannoL 02/02/24 12:45:41 AM #46: |
008Zulu posted... Trying to get in to a meaningful relationship with a creator (who is probably already in a relationship with someone), alongside 20,000 other hopefuls... you'd have better luck talking to someone at random out on the street.Yeah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2Pacavelli 02/02/24 1:01:24 AM #47: |
It's a symptom of a greater societal problem ... Copied to Clipboard!
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2Pacavelli 02/02/24 1:02:53 AM #48: |
Revisited posted... Yeah I know what it's like to be lonely but this... this ain't it. I wouldn't even pay for sex, so I don't understand these people paying for merely pixels on a screen, not even the actual person being in front of them. They probably feel it's less risky dealing with them digitally. Because in real life they may open themselves to being robbed, or catching an std, or catching a charge for solicitation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 02/02/24 10:04:41 AM #49: |
mariolover2 posted... eh, I know a guy who uses clapper app. it isnt actually any stranger than the strip club. Its safer for introverts (male or female).I'm not familiar with whatever app you are talking about. If it's some connection app, that doesnt require either or side to pay other, then you are talking about completely something else. However any app or service that literally requires you to pay the other person for an interaction, and trying to claim to be an emotional connection, is not a genuine 2 way emotional connection. Telling these people that it is, is not healthy. It's also a lie that the person accepting the money genuinely wants to talk to you for a real emotional connection. A real 2 way emotional connection doesnt stop the moment the money stops flowing in. All its doing is feeding into the problems these people are having in the first place thinking they have some emotional connection with the person they are throwing money at. As these people genuinely are convinced the people they are showering money to genuinely loves them if the cash wasn't flowing. They also get it twisted when they are contacted by them. Your one way connection you are paying for, contacting you isn't a mind blowing surprise given they want you to keep paying. This is a one way transactional connection, plain and simple. Call me when this 2 way "emotional connection" continues after the payments cease to exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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philsov 02/02/24 10:15:24 AM #50: |
SuperExcitebike posted...
They might trick themselves into thinking it's a connection, but they're talking to paid employees or robots Yup. Top OF people outsource requests and interactions to other people. Its more than one person can handle! I imagine lots of men thinking they're talking to some busty chick are just talking to a straight dude in another country who's ESL. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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