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nocturnal_traveler 02/07/24 10:08:49 AM #1:	The rest of the English translation to Villainous is in limbo. Carmen Sandiego was watered down in the Netflix adaptation. And Black Adam/Morbius/Kraven were turned into anti-heroes. Even in the old days, shows and movies in American studios that featured a villain protagonist was pretty rare. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:978705575] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>The rest of the English translation to Villainous is in limbo. Carmen Sandiego was watered down in the Netflix adaptation. And Black Adam/Morbius/Kraven were turned into anti-heroes. Even in the old days, shows and movies in American studios that featured a villain protagonist was pretty rare. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/07/24 10:11:06 AM #2:	Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978705599] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/07/24 10:11:44 AM #3:	Dunno, but for Black Adam, Morbius and Venom, they eventually became anti heroes, so they probably believe that is what is popular so they went with that, even though they really should have started with the origins being villains. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:978705610] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Dunno, but for Black Adam, Morbius and Venom, they eventually became anti heroes, so they probably believe that is what is popular so they went with that, even though they really should have started with the origins being villains. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 02/07/24 10:12:23 AM #4:	Because a lot of people have bad media literacy and aren't able to figure out that you aren't supposed to root for the bad guy just because he's the protagonist. Think Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Tony Montana, Jordan Belfort, etc., --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:978705614] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Because a lot of people have bad media literacy and aren't able to figure out that you aren't supposed to root for the bad guy just because he's the protagonist. Think Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Tony Montana, Jordan Belfort, etc., </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Japanties 02/07/24 10:14:10 AM #5:	Media literacy is poor, people think having an unjustifiable villain is immoral or problematic. If the average audience can't morally relate, empathize, or self-insert as the main character, the media will sell less than otherwise. <cite>Japanties posted [p:978705643] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Media literacy is poor, people think having an unjustifiable villain is immoral or problematic. If the average audience can't morally relate, empathize, or self-insert as the main character, the media will sell less than otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 02/07/24 10:15:26 AM #6:	Joe from You is pretty villainous. >_> --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:978705661] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Joe from You is pretty villainous. >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 02/07/24 10:16:29 AM #7:	TC's right. Scorpion King was a world conquering villain in Mummy 2 and then he gets his own movie that sends him to just straight hero protagonist, not even an anti-hero. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:978705678] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>TC's right. Scorpion King was a world conquering villain in Mummy 2 and then he gets his own movie that sends him to just straight hero protagonist, not even an anti-hero. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame_Zero 02/07/24 10:16:50 AM #8:	You definitely see it more on TV shows than blockbuster movies. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame_Zero posted [p:978705688] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>You definitely see it more on TV shows than blockbuster movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 02/07/24 10:21:02 AM #9:	Because people like to see villains get their comeuppance. Too few people like to see the villain win. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:978705749] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Because people like to see villains get their comeuppance. Too few people like to see the villain win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pazzy 02/07/24 10:41:05 AM #10:	I don't think villains as the protagonist were ever really popular outside of concept. <cite>pazzy posted [p:978706029] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>I don't think villains as the protagonist were ever really popular outside of concept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kibouno 02/07/24 10:44:53 AM #11:	They don't want to be #1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8VFyW61e0 :( <cite>Kibouno posted [p:978706083] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>They don't want to be #1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG8VFyW61e0:( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 02/07/24 11:05:56 AM #12:	pazzy posted... I don't think villains as the protagonist were ever really popular outside of concept. Perhaps, but there is enough of an audience for it. Anime has quite a few villain protagonists. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:978706431] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>pazzy posted... </cite><quote>I don't think villains as the protagonist were ever really popular outside of concept.</quote>Perhaps, but there is enough of an audience for it. Anime has quite a few villain protagonists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/07/24 11:08:24 AM #13:	Black Adam has been an antihero whose interests sometimes align with either side for a long time. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:978706466] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Black Adam has been an antihero whose interests sometimes align with either side for a long time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 02/07/24 11:11:10 AM #14:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c82e5a71.jpg --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:978706517] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c82e5a71.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 02/07/24 11:51:30 AM #15:	The Sopranos Breaking Bad The Shield Dexter Sons of Anarchy Barry You Succession Boardwalk Empire The Godfather Goodfellas Scarface American Psycho House of Cards Beef Tar Killers of the Flower Moon <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:978707193] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>The SopranosBreaking BadThe ShieldDexterSons of AnarchyBarryYouSuccessionBoardwalk EmpireThe GodfatherGoodfellasScarfaceAmerican PsychoHouse of CardsBeefTarKillers of the Flower Moon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 02/07/24 1:20:39 PM #16:	Background_Guy posted... The Sopranos Breaking Bad The Shield Dexter Sons of Anarchy Barry You Succession Boardwalk Empire The Godfather Goodfellas Scarface American Psycho House of Cards Beef Tar Killers of the Flower Moon A lot of those, it's a Pyrrhic victory. They've lost so much, it was barely worth what they gained. Godfather, Michael ~~loses his father, his oldest brother Sonny, Luca Brasi, his wife in Sicily, and in the second movie, his other brother Fredo, and in the third, his own daughter.~~ Scarface, ~~Tony is shot in the back at the end.~~ --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:978708781] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite><quote>The SopranosBreaking BadThe ShieldDexterSons of AnarchyBarryYouSuccessionBoardwalk EmpireThe GodfatherGoodfellasScarfaceAmerican PsychoHouse of CardsBeefTarKillers of the Flower Moon</quote>A lot of those, it's a Pyrrhic victory. They've lost so much, it was barely worth what they gained.Godfather, Michael loses his father, his oldest brother Sonny, Luca Brasi, his wife in Sicily, and in the second movie, his other brother Fredo, and in the third, his own daughter.Scarface, Tony is shot in the back at the end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 02/07/24 1:21:43 PM #17:	Japanties posted... Media literacy is poor, people think having an unjustifiable villain is immoral or problematic. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:978708799] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Japanties posted... </cite><quote>Media literacy is poor, people think having an unjustifiable villain is immoral or problematic.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 02/07/24 1:23:14 PM #18:	Because a villain just being a villain and getting away with it is boring. Just like if a hero has no struggle. --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:978708820] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Because a villain just being a villain and getting away with it is boring. Just like if a hero has no struggle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 02/07/24 1:25:31 PM #19:	Because a bit less than half of the populace keeps on empathizing with them as not being the villain. Just look at what happened with Homelander. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:978708861] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Because a bit less than half of the populace keeps on empathizing with them as not being the villain. Just look at what happened with Homelander. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth_C_Ryu 02/07/24 1:26:33 PM #20:	Maybe they are afraid the obvious villain would be seen as a hero just because you see some semblance of justification due to the story following them and not whoever the good guys are. I mean, look how many people think Light Yagami in Death Note is the good guy, just because he was mostly trying to kill anyone who was a convicted criminal (i.e. people who the courts decided was one) as well as anyone he felt was a potential threat or, you know, insulted his alter ego on live television. --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:978708880] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Maybe they are afraid the obvious villain would be seen as a hero just because you see some semblance of justification due to the story following them and not whoever the good guys are. I mean, look how many people think Light Yagami in Death Note is the good guy, just because he was mostly trying to kill anyone who was a convicted criminal (i.e. people who the courts decided was one) as well as anyone he felt was a potential threat or, you know, insulted his alter ego on live television. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 02/07/24 1:26:48 PM #21:	Because they are haters of Invader Zim. --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:978708886] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Because they are haters of Invader Zim. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 02/07/24 1:28:00 PM #22:	Nightcrawler is a great villain protagonist movie, highly recommend --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:978708903] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Nightcrawler is a great villain protagonist movie, highly recommend </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazer 02/08/24 3:41:28 AM #23:	https://www.cbr.com/tv-shows-series-villain-main-character/ --- Look! A distraction! <cite>Kazer posted [p:978721431] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cbr.com/tv-shows-series-villain-main-character/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 02/08/24 3:53:37 AM #24:	Remember all the people who thought Light was the good guy in Death Note? Yeah, that's the reason why. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:978721514] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Remember all the people who thought Light was the good guy in Death Note? Yeah, that's the reason why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 02/08/24 3:55:12 AM #25:	ellis123 posted... Because a bit less than half of the populace keeps on empathizing with them as not being the villain. Just look at what happened with Homelander. Dude there was a guy on here simping for Stormfront. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:978721521] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Because a bit less than half of the populace keeps on empathizing with them as not being the villain. Just look at what happened with Homelander.</quote>Dude there was a guy on here simping for Stormfront. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxKrebsxX 02/08/24 3:55:29 AM #26:	Joker in 2019? <cite>XxKrebsxX posted [p:978721525] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Joker in 2019?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 02/08/24 4:15:27 AM #27:	Many war movies told from the USs perspective have a villain protagonist. ~~The writers probably dont realize it though.~~ --- Calling out stupid or reckless decision-making is not "victim blaming." <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:978721624] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Many war movies told from the USs perspective have a villain protagonist. The writers probably dont realize it though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 02/08/24 5:26:17 AM #28:	XxKrebsxX posted... Joker in 2019? Compared to other DC Jokers? Not villainous at all. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:978722010] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>XxKrebsxX posted... </cite><quote>Joker in 2019?</quote>Compared to other DC Jokers? Not villainous at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NittanyLions23 02/08/24 5:30:05 AM #29:	we have an issue of people going crazy and shooting other people. We dont really need more villains to look up to. --- We had 24 hour Walmarts and $1 McChickens... We had it all... <cite>NittanyLions23 posted [p:978722039] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>we have an issue of people going crazy and shooting other people.We dont really need more villains to look up to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KI_Simpson 02/08/24 5:31:53 AM #30:	Ricemills posted... Compared to other DC Jokers? Not villainous at all. Plenty of other Jokers had sympathetic backstories, and ~~by the end of the movie he was killing random people for fun, he definitely didn't end up less villainous.~~ --- They/them <cite>KI_Simpson posted [p:978722051] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Compared to other DC Jokers? Not villainous at all.</quote>Plenty of other Jokers had sympathetic backstories, and by the end of the movie he was killing random people for fun, he definitely didn't end up less villainous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 02/08/24 10:06:50 AM #31:	ssjevot posted... Dude there was a guy on here simping for Stormfront. Isnt that a white supremacy website? --- Useless "Captain" Mid <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:978724762] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite><quote>Dude there was a guy on here simping for Stormfront.</quote>Isnt that a white supremacy website? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/08/24 10:15:11 AM #32:	ViewtifulGrave posted... Isnt that a white supremacy website? Yes. But in this case that person meant a character on The Boys. She is a nazi super "hero" <cite>Zikten posted [p:978724873] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted... </cite><quote>Isnt that a white supremacy website?</quote>Yes. But in this case that person meant a character on The Boys. She is a nazi super "hero"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StrongerDoggo 02/09/24 8:29:40 PM #33:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVyEzIYmtE --- The iron strikes hot and the wolf munches! <cite>StrongerDoggo posted [p:978755146] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVyEzIYmtE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/09/24 8:32:10 PM #34:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because a lot of people have bad media literacy and aren't able to figure out that you aren't supposed to root for the bad guy just because he's the protagonist. Think Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Tony Montana, Jordan Belfort, etc., Yeah I remember when Wolf of Wall Street came out people had to be told "you know DiCaprio is the villain of the movie right". --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:978755178] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Because a lot of people have bad media literacy and aren't able to figure out that you aren't supposed to root for the bad guy just because he's the protagonist. Think Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Tony Montana, Jordan Belfort, etc.,</quote>Yeah I remember when Wolf of Wall Street came out people had to be told "you know DiCaprio is the villain of the movie right". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 02/09/24 8:33:15 PM #35:	Carmen actually made me mad. Her being a villain is a part of what makes her memorable. They turned her into a generic spy on the side of the good guy. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:978755196] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Carmen actually made me mad. Her being a villain is a part of what makes her memorable. They turned her into a generic spy on the side of the good guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
02fran 02/09/24 8:33:33 PM #36:	Lydia Tar was basically a villain protagonist. <cite>02fran posted [p:978755201] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Lydia Tar was basically a villain protagonist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 02/09/24 8:33:58 PM #37:	Ricemills posted... Compared to other DC Jokers? Not villainous at all. In Batman, ~~he kills Batman's mom~~. In Joker, ~~he kills Joker's mom.~~ <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:978755211] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Compared to other DC Jokers? Not villainous at all.</quote>In Batman, he kills Batman's mom.In Joker, he kills Joker's mom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/09/24 8:44:27 PM #38:	Garioshi posted... Black Adam has been an antihero whose interests sometimes align with either side for a long time. This. His thing has been "I'm going to do what I believe is best for Kahndaq" for most of the character's history, regardless of what that "best" may be at the time. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:978755375] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite><quote>Black Adam has been an antihero whose interests sometimes align with either side for a long time.</quote>This. His thing has been "I'm going to do what I believe is best for Kahndaq" for most of the character's history, regardless of what that "best" may be at the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 02/09/24 8:46:08 PM #39:	Is Dexter a villian or anti- hero? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:978755407] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Is Dexter a villian or anti- hero?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 02/09/24 8:49:50 PM #40:	WingsOfGood posted... Is Dexter a villian or anti- hero? Definitely an anti-hero, at least by typical anti-hero standards. I'd say you fall under anti-hero if you defeat villains, through grey/evil means. Otherwise, you are just a hero, even if you are edgy. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:978755479] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Is Dexter a villian or anti- hero?</quote>Definitely an anti-hero, at least by typical anti-hero standards.I'd say you fall under anti-hero if you defeat villains, through grey/evil means. Otherwise, you are just a hero, even if you are edgy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 02/09/24 9:16:09 PM #41:	Because people have the absolute shittiest media literacy and you come away with takes like how Light did nothing wrong, how Homelander is absolutely rad, or how Jordan Belfort is literally me or whatever. --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:978755952] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Because people have the absolute shittiest media literacy and you come away with takes like how Light did nothing wrong, how Homelander is absolutely rad, or how Jordan Belfort is literally me or whatever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 02/09/24 9:53:56 PM #42:	The Homelander thing struck me as really odd, since the whole point of The Boys, was that superheroes aren't really the heroes we thought them to be. Homelander being evil wasn't even subtle. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:978756528] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>The Homelander thing struck me as really odd, since the whole point of The Boys, was that superheroes aren't really the heroes we thought them to be. Homelander being evil wasn't even subtle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ironman2009 02/09/24 10:00:18 PM #44:	Is Al Swearengen a villain? I guess he could be labeled one early on but as things progress he kinda turns into an antihero --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:978756621] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Is Al Swearengen a villain? I guess he could be labeled one early on but as things progress he kinda turns into an antihero </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 02/09/24 10:03:16 PM #45:	Background_Guy posted... The Sopranos Breaking Bad The Shield Dexter Sons of Anarchy Barry You Succession Boardwalk Empire The Godfather Goodfellas Scarface American Psycho House of Cards Beef Tar Killers of the Flower Moon Yeah, I don't get the topic. There are quite a few shows and movies with villain protagonists. I guess TC means a show/movie where the protagonist is a villain who gets away with everything? Eh, that's not really fun to watch imo. The posts about people having bad media literacy are also true. Lotta "Light did nothing wrong" types come away with the wrong message. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:978756661] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite><quote>The SopranosBreaking BadThe ShieldDexterSons of AnarchyBarryYouSuccessionBoardwalk EmpireThe GodfatherGoodfellasScarfaceAmerican PsychoHouse of CardsBeefTarKillers of the Flower Moon</quote>Yeah, I don't get the topic. There are quite a few shows and movies with villain protagonists.I guess TC means a show/movie where the protagonist is a villain who gets away with everything? Eh, that's not really fun to watch imo.The posts about people having bad media literacy are also true. Lotta "Light did nothing wrong" types come away with the wrong message. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 02/09/24 10:13:54 PM #46:	Oh, and enjoy IMDB's list of antiheroes, which includes Oliver Quick, Walter White, Roman Roy, and the fucking Joker. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/83e1c129.jpg --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:978756779] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Oh, and enjoy IMDB's list of antiheroes, which includes Oliver Quick, Walter White, Roman Roy, and the fucking Joker.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/83e1c129.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 02/09/24 10:19:01 PM #47:	Ivynn posted... Yeah, I don't get the topic. There are quite a few shows and movies with villain protagonists. I guess TC means a show/movie where the protagonist is a villain who gets away with everything? Eh, that's not really fun to watch imo. The posts about people having bad media literacy are also true. Lotta "Light did nothing wrong" types come away with the wrong message. That list is of villain protagonists over the course of many many years. For one story of a villain protagonist, you have at least twenty of a story with a hero protagonist, and a dozen with an anti-hero. StealThisSheen posted... This. His thing has been "I'm going to do what I believe is best for Kahndaq" for most of the character's history, regardless of what that "best" may be at the time. I was referring to the Black Adam movie. At least with the comics it was a transition. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:978756857] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, I don't get the topic. There are quite a few shows and movies with villain protagonists.I guess TC means a show/movie where the protagonist is a villain who gets away with everything? Eh, that's not really fun to watch imo.The posts about people having bad media literacy are also true. Lotta "Light did nothing wrong" types come away with the wrong message.</quote>That list is of villain protagonists over the course of many many years. For one story of a villain protagonist, you have at least twenty of a story with a hero protagonist, and a dozen with an anti-hero.StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>This. His thing has been "I'm going to do what I believe is best for Kahndaq" for most of the character's history, regardless of what that "best" may be at the time.</quote>I was referring to the Black Adam movie. At least with the comics it was a transition. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 02/09/24 10:23:07 PM #48:	nocturnal_traveler posted... I was referring to the Black Adam movie. At least with the comics it was a transition. To be fair, I felt like he was portrayed this way in the movie, too. The movie just happened to be a "His pro-Kahndaq motivations happen to align" kind of situation, but I also atleast felt it sorta implied this could lead to him being a "villain" later, too. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:978756924] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>I was referring to the Black Adam movie. At least with the comics it was a transition.</quote>To be fair, I felt like he was portrayed this way in the movie, too. The movie just happened to be a "His pro-Kahndaq motivations happen to align" kind of situation, but I also atleast felt it sorta implied this could lead to him being a "villain" later, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 02/09/24 10:28:56 PM #49:	StealThisSheen posted... To be fair, I felt like he was portrayed this way in the movie, too. The movie just happened to be a "His pro-Kahndaq motivations happen to align" kind of situation, but I also atleast felt it sorta implied this could lead to him being a "villain" later, too. I'm sure a sequel could've answered that, but alas, the DC cinematic universe is getting a reset. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:978756991] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, I felt like he was portrayed this way in the movie, too. The movie just happened to be a "His pro-Kahndaq motivations happen to align" kind of situation, but I also atleast felt it sorta implied this could lead to him being a "villain" later, too.</quote>I'm sure a sequel could've answered that, but alas, the DC cinematic universe is getting a reset. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 02/09/24 11:07:54 PM #50:	nocturnal_traveler posted... That list is of villain protagonists over the course of many many years. For one story of a villain protagonist, you have at least twenty of a story with a hero protagonist, and a dozen with an anti-hero. Well yeah that's just what people like <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:978757466] in Why are Am... [t:80690388]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>That list is of villain protagonists over the course of many many years. For one story of a villain protagonist, you have at least twenty of a story with a hero protagonist, and a dozen with an anti-hero.</quote>Well yeah that's just what people like</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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