Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 5: Don't blame me, I voted for scum!

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 9:47:11 PM
#201:


Anyways with all that said, are we trying to end day immediately and get a new day up tomorrow? I generally don't prefer to waste hours/days of potential discussion, but the second half of day 2 was hardly productive. It might not be too bad in this instance.

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changmas
02/10/24 9:50:19 PM
#203:


I mean at least give everyone a chance to check in

Someone else might have info too

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MZero
02/10/24 9:58:39 PM
#204:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Chief isn't spelled wrong in your role PM is it? <_<

yes lol

PunishedBen posted...
So did you have any worry going to bed that you'd get lynched yesterday?

not really, I felt like my momentum had mostly died out. It ended up closer than I expected though

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Corrik7
02/10/24 10:00:03 PM
#205:


I was poisoned and am not guilty. Good gambit but not gonna work.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 10:03:26 PM
#206:


I mean, I correctly felt that Isquen's lynch didn't feel right, despite the part in it he played himself >_>

MZero posted...
classic town Ulti


Incidentally was this your breadcrumb for us to determine your n1 scan? I would have preferred it be in your FIRST post of the day 2 to remove any doubt, but I suppose it probably would have done the trick if you had ended up getting unalived.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 10:04:15 PM
#207:


Corrik7 posted...
I was poisoned and am not guilty. Good gambit but not gonna work.

Well since you're a dead man walking (either way) what's your claim?

Why do you think you got poisoned?

Who do you think is scum?

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Corrik7
02/10/24 10:05:34 PM
#208:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Well since you're a dead man walking (either way) what's your claim?

Why do you think you got poisoned?

Who do you think is scum?
I got poisoned I am sure cuz people think my inactivity due to wrestling is me laying low as town power.

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Enchantress
02/10/24 10:05:35 PM
#209:


Mafia is a hard game, gj Mzero
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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 10:08:09 PM
#210:


Corrik7 posted...
I got poisoned I am sure cuz people think my inactivity due to wrestling is me laying low as town power.

Forceful_Dragon posted...
what's your claim?


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changmas
02/10/24 10:25:13 PM
#211:


one thing for me to note is that the cleaned kill on kirby reads like an extra kill to me (as would a poisoner, if it isn't red as town poisoner)

but if that's the case where did the regular kill go

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 10:37:46 PM
#212:


I would assume the regular kill was replaced by the optional Janitor, especially if this is a fairly low power game.

If Kirby DID have a role then scum would know what it is and could now take claim it.

I guess the super ballsy option is that Kirby was Wiggum (which was on the prior flavor list and which MZero never answered) and MZero immediately used it to gambit.

But then why gambit for the person who just said they are poisoned? Lol

Either way MZero seems not likely to not to be legit and Kirby was probably just another vanilla

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 11:24:21 PM
#213:



Hell is everyone?

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changmas
02/10/24 11:26:22 PM
#214:


it does seem a little strange that lea would have a dayscan and also separately a lazy cop

although i think they could coincide if their functionality is much different. we havent gotten much of an explanation as to what features were actually scanned

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changmas
02/10/24 11:27:28 PM
#215:


in the scum mzero scenario it doesnt make much sense if corrik is poisoned by scum and they run a cop gambit on him

feels like red would have to be town poisoner for that to make any sense

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wallmasterz
02/10/24 11:29:21 PM
#216:


Corrik7 posted...
I got poisoned I am sure cuz people think my inactivity due to wrestling is me laying low as town power.

Corrik is wrestling with the guilt of being scum =(

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wallmasterz
02/10/24 11:32:27 PM
#217:


Dont blame me, I voted for

##Vote: Corrik

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 11:33:02 PM
#218:


wallmasterz posted...
Dont blame me, I voted for

##Vote: Corrik

You didn't answer my question

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wallmasterz
02/10/24 11:34:13 PM
#219:


Ah sorry FD. Yes my role is one-time neighbor and track, thats all there is to it.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 11:34:38 PM
#220:


Still could be scum, but you'll keep for now

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changmas
02/10/24 11:37:40 PM
#221:


wallmasterz posted...
Ah sorry FD. Yes my role is one-time neighbor and track, thats all there is to it.

if were to believe this is true (not sure i buy it) this is another vanillaizer dud

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Forceful_Dragon
02/10/24 11:47:11 PM
#222:


Yeah currently weak cop is the best target we know of.

But scum would still have had no way to know how weak the role would be in the setup. They still lost a potentially important role on day 1.

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changmas
02/11/24 12:01:27 AM
#223:


oh my argument is more like surely some of these vanillas are lying

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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 12:07:59 AM
#224:


I'd put Ben as the most likely liar then of the 3 claimed vanillas

Death responded to my question fairly quick (around 10 minutes).

And Ulti is not only scanned now, but he provided the Nave Neighbor part early, even if he did screw up everything else.

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red13n
02/11/24 1:40:57 AM
#225:


I'm generally one to just say I trust mzero here tbh. Hes not really the gambiting type.

If I had to throw out a dumb theory, Corrik somehow knew he got scanned and claimed poisoned to get ahead of it and buy a day.

Since hes apparently supposedly poisoned(Which b8 has generally turned into unblockable) he could just up and claim or whatever but has said nothing.

Also all the day 1 ulti targetting was bad scans but its fine whatever.

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Chaeix
02/11/24 1:45:48 AM
#226:


corrik answering to a 'what is your claim' post directly and not responding to that part is pretty funny

can't even pretend he just ignored the post at that point

anyways i'll pass on full claiming right now. i think my scumhunting resume of ctes and corrik speaks for itself at the moment, unless you think i actually tried to start wagons on two of my scumbuddies at the end of d1, assuming mzero's scan can be trusted.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 1:51:46 AM
#227:


Chaeix posted...
corrik answering to a 'what is your claim' post directly and not responding to that part is pretty funny

can't even pretend he just ignored the post at that point

anyways i'll pass on full claiming right now. i think my scumhunting resume of ctes and corrik speaks for itself at the moment, unless you think i actually tried to start wagons on two of my scumbuddies at the end of d1, assuming mzero's scan can be trusted.

Assuming Corrik flips the way we expect your info can keep until tomorrow, but your participation in the ctes lynch loses a lot of it's town equity if the person you were picking from is also scum. It can then be viewed as an attempt to split votes between 2 scum and hope the ulti lynch gained more traction.

But if you ARE town and have valuable information you should consider saying something that in case you get killed tonight.

But we have a weak cop and a day cop (or w/e Lea is supposed to be) and a 1 use track so I don't know what you could have that can't wait.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 1:53:42 AM
#228:


Person you were splitting* from

Consider saying something today* in case

Damn phone

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MZero
02/11/24 2:02:32 AM
#229:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I mean, I correctly felt that Isquen's lynch didn't feel right, despite the part in it he played himself >_>

Incidentally was this your breadcrumb for us to determine your n1 scan? I would have preferred it be in your FIRST post of the day 2 to remove any doubt, but I suppose it probably would have done the trick if you had ended up getting unalived.

I didn't make any one post with the intention of breadcrumbing my scan, but I was sure to make it clear I thought Ulti was town throughout the day

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Chaeix
02/11/24 2:08:42 AM
#230:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Assuming Corrik flips the way we expect your info can keep until tomorrow, but your participation in the ctes lynch loses a lot of it's town equity if the person you were picking from is also scum. It can then be viewed as an attempt to split votes between 2 scum and hope the ulti lynch gained more traction.

But if you ARE town and have valuable information you should consider saying something that in case you get killed tonight.

But we have a weak cop and a day cop (or w/e Lea is supposed to be) and a 1 use track so I don't know what you could have that can't wait.
well I do know what I have that can wait so we appear to be at an impasse

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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 2:33:10 AM
#231:


I think we said the same thing in opposite ways

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htaeD
02/11/24 3:12:28 AM
#232:


I appreciate the day not ending before I could show up, even though lynching Corrik is pretty obviously the choice to make.

In some reality with different circumstances I could maybe see scuMzero desperate enough to trade 1 for 1 with an already suspected town
But not if scum already poisoned that already suspected town, and why on earth would they poison Corrik anyway? (I also dont believe a town poisoner would poison Corrik either)
Hell.. our supposed Vig could just shoot Mzero if he was found out to be lying. Mzero does not take that risk.

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red13n
02/11/24 4:21:45 AM
#233:


"supposed" vig really death.

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htaeD
02/11/24 4:30:02 AM
#234:


Eh thats moreso because Corrik being scum puts Lea's status and her subsequent scan of you into question again. (A specific-daycop along with a lazy cop is unusual as well. Though not impossible I suppose).

I have you in town, just not super duper confirmed town.

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htaeD
02/11/24 4:30:51 AM
#235:


Thats also because, if Lea is scum, I think she would rather fake a scan on actual town then on a scummate.

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red13n
02/11/24 4:50:19 AM
#236:


Corrik being scum just makes my day 1 extremely town.

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Corrik7
02/11/24 7:38:22 AM
#237:


Mzero did you get the info you needed yet?

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Corrik7
02/11/24 7:39:33 AM
#238:


Chaeix posted...
corrik answering to a 'what is your claim' post directly and not responding to that part is pretty funny

can't even pretend he just ignored the post at that point

anyways i'll pass on full claiming right now. i think my scumhunting resume of ctes and corrik speaks for itself at the moment, unless you think i actually tried to start wagons on two of my scumbuddies at the end of d1, assuming mzero's scan can be trusted.
Yeah I'm not claiming to that.

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Corrik7
02/11/24 7:44:19 AM
#239:


I'm busy at my kids tournament of champions so probably not responding much, but I am not scum. I am poisoned so not the worst mislynch either. Do what yinz gotta do. I won't be around but when mzero reveals he was just gambiting, look at the people who tried jumping on my mislynch right away. Pretty revealing.

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MZero
02/11/24 8:25:11 AM
#240:


Corrik7 posted...
Mzero did you get the info you needed yet?

MZero posted...
No need

##Vote: Corrik

claim

I literally asked for one thing lol

not that it really matters at this point

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TheSultanOfSlam
02/11/24 8:26:42 AM
#241:


Votals predict the Superbowl
(4)Corrik- Mzero, ulti, Ben, Wall
(1) Ben- (ulti)

Takes 6 to Hammer

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Obellisk
02/11/24 9:32:50 AM
#242:


Corrik7 posted...
look at the people who tried jumping on my mislynch right away. Pretty revealing.

if you are poisoned why did it matter who "jumps on your mislynch"

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Obellisk
02/11/24 9:33:37 AM
#243:


also, hung over at the Borgata in AC. will be around later when I get home but I assume the day is all but over.

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Chaeix
02/11/24 11:01:34 AM
#245:


lynch Ulti and sbell, clearly taking the scum chat IRL

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MZero
02/11/24 11:09:52 AM
#246:


Ulti is GF, I should have known

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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 12:17:46 PM
#247:


Obellisk posted...
if you are poisoned why did it matter who "jumps on your mislynch"

Exactly. On the off chance he's town this is his opportunity to provide info and provide his own thoughts and insights before his demise. But regardless of being lynched today is his final day and he is NOT making it count so far.

I suppose I'll re read Kirby a bit as well and see what I can turn up.

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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 1:36:07 PM
#248:


My Kirby notes from topic 2:

Missed first 24 hours

During his catching up posts he sussed Ben and JC and red

During his catching up posts he town leaned Ulti, Lopen myself and Ben

Yes Ben was on both, he thought it was weird that Ben had not cast any votes yet, but then he liked Ben's large post near the end of topic 1 where he (Ben) town cleared Death, Lopen and myself.

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Another post about Ulti being lying town rather than lying scum.

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A post noticing that ctes had not posted in awhile.

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Though JC isn't the one pinging my scumdar the most right now. I don't want to act on my true #1 suspect until my mason buddy confirms that he sees what I'm seeing.

If i had a nickel for every time that Kirby jokingly called himself a mason in topic 2 Id have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

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A post suspicious of Lea for her dismissive attitude about the renamed role discussion.

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Willing to vote ctes, busy still primary sus on Lea.

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A post explaining that town Ulti doesn't make sense and lies about his claim

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Couple more posts about Lea and Ulti and their alignments not necessarily being linked.

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Not sure when I'll have time to do more, church now and Superbowl later. Might have time while my wings are cooking before the game.

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Enchantress
02/11/24 1:43:32 PM
#249:


Mmm I hope Wallz wasn't responsible for Kirby
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Forceful_Dragon
02/11/24 1:45:21 PM
#250:


Well both Lopen and Kirby were outspoken in considering me town so I don't love them being dead.

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