Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 5: Don't blame me, I voted for scum!

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Still running against Mayor Quimby
1. Corrik
2. Death
3. FD
4. Mzero (replaced IGCD)
5. Isquen
6. JC
7. Kirby
8. Lea
9. Red
10. Sbell
11. Ulti
12. Wallz
13. Ben
14. Chang

the dead
1. Ctes - Marge/Maggie scum Vanillaizer
2. Lopen - Gil Gunderson, Town Unsuccessful salesman (Vanilla)

Votals will happen when I get around to them. My brain is fried right now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/edf5d4fb.jpg

Its also just hitting me how weird it is that Ben kept sharing updated votals without ever moving his vote off mzero. I know this was discussed but now its feeling weird to me.

FD was knocked for seeming secretarial but Ben basically didnt participate in the lynch. He didnt take a side even on a tie lynch. I wouldnt mind Ben answering for that. He was around.

wallmasterz posted...

Its also just hitting me how weird it is that Ben kept sharing updated votals without ever moving his vote off mzero. I know this was discussed but now its feeling weird to me.

FD was knocked for seeming secretarial but Ben basically didnt participate in the lynch. He didnt take a side even on a tie lynch. I wouldnt mind Ben answering for that. He was around.

Are you saying beyond his prior answers?

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Did you scan Red, yes or no?

Did the scan return "innocent" (or equivalent) yes or no?

Enchantress posted...

Yes

Yes

From the end of last topic for safekeeping.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b02e036a.jpg

Updated with Isquen's flavor and Lea's day-scan:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6e52960f.png

Have we had an update on how JC purports to be self-confirming?

Nope. Now that Lopen is dead, we may never know. I think Isquen said his role was called Momma's Boy, but not what it does.

Okay I think I found a game in which town Isquen got angry for being called scum.
It was Star Trek Mafia
But he didnt walk away out of anger there, he only threatened to yet kept playing and talking with people. He seemed more tired due to work.
Other than that his record is pretty clean. He got killed by scum more than he got lynched

(Okay he got lynched day1 in Fuck 2021 Mafia. But he literally dayvigged town Lopen so it didnt happen for the usual reasons)

Isquen posted...

Flavor is Momma's Boy. No, it does not tie into my role.

Got it, updated.

In the event that Isquen is telling the truth and he's Momma's Boy (Insert Town Role Here) that still put's Wallz' renamed role at odds with everything else we've seen. Skinner IS a momma's boy so that's an apt description of him. I still don't view "Kidnapper" as an apt description of Fat Tony.

For the record my own renamed role is also an apt description of my flavor character.

I'd be curious if there is anyone out there who can say "you know what, like wallz my renamed role doesn't really seem to fit my flavor character".

We thought Ulti was kidnapped, but he ended up being buried under a pile of old newspapers in his garage

to me, it sounds like isquen is vanilla but i'm sure he'll show back up and claim that it was obvious that he breadcrumbed bodyguard all along.

or rather - claimed vanilla

my renaming is appropriate to my character.

my renamed role fits both my character and my function

I just realized the topic is missing the Mafia flair and my day is ruined

Enchantress posted...

We thought Ulti was kidnapped, but he ended up being buried under a pile of old newspapers in his garage

Yes, yes, your Simpsons knowledge is encyclopedic, way to pull out something that references both Tony and Skinner <_<

Based on how Isquen has played the game up until this post, he'll start parroting whatever people have speculated or defended him with. He immediately started agreeing with all the people saying "aw Isquen is a boring every game lynch" people and now it's become his entire identity this game, going all "you people never learn, do you?" All the while not answering questions or explaining opinions

htaeD posted...

I just realized the topic is missing the Mafia flair and my day is ruined

Death is clearly setting himself up to retract his earlier claim and also claim Skinner

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Yes, yes, your Simpsons knowledge is encyclopedic, way to pull out something that references both Tony and Skinner <_<

It's nice to be appreciated as an advanced LLM

I'm fine with Isquen as the lynch today for the record, I would just be remiss if I wasn't considering all angles, and Isquen being town is one of them. I won't cry myself to sleep if this is a swing and a miss because at the very least it isn't based upon nothing and we stand to learn from the lynch regardless.

i can definitely imagine a world where he's town but he's done worse than doing himself no favors

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Got it, updated.

In the event that Isquen is telling the truth and he's Momma's Boy (Insert Town Role Here) that still put's Wallz' renamed role at odds with everything else we've seen. Skinner IS a momma's boy so that's an apt description of him. I still don't view "Kidnapper" as an apt description of Fat Tony.

FD, I see what youre doing. You can tell that Im town so you are pretending to tunnel me so I dont get killed by scum.

An absolute bro.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cbe6bc3d.jpg

You can kidnap me tonight if you want, Wallz

The silence of the Leas

People this game have been begging for the silence of the Leas since page one :(

We'll just exile you to Shelbyville if we can't stand it anymore ;)

I had a thought guys. Mr. Fat Tony doesnt live in the neighborhood with alleged naive neighbor Ned Flanders.

##Vote: Wallz

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/35d126f7.jpg

(Wallz claimed entirely unprompted. You have to have a really low opinion of him to think that the syntax was an unforced error)

wallmasterz posted...

I had a thought guys. Mr. Fat Tony doesnt live in the neighborhood with alleged naive neighbor Ned Flanders.

##Vote: Wallz

huh?

5) Corrik - (JC), (Chang), Isquen, Lea, Ulti, Ctes, Red
(5) Ctes- (JC), (Lopen), (Changmas), (Kirby), Kirby, JC, Chang, Wallz
(3) Ulti- (Isquen), (Lopen), Lopen, Death, Sbell, (Kirby)

Before Lea moved. My two cents, I would support a Corrik lynch. He had plenty of questions for me which is fine but none for Ulti, which is weird since ulti jumped to guessing Im 3p and asked to fake claim masons twice.

Corriks vibes arent right imo.

It wasnt unprompted anyway. Ctes prodded him.
Wallz mentioning flavorcop was out of nowhere.

Corrik was right, I should have scanned Corrik

UltimaterializerX posted...

So like, how Im naive neighbor even though Im a vanilla, but the bit in quotes fits my flavor character?

Thats actually a really good question. And yeah mine fits too.

Ulti to me: flavor is for hosts, I dont pay attention
Ulti to misguided townie FD tunneling townie Wallz: Fascinating, great observation. Carry on.

Enchantress posted...

Corrik was right

I mean if that doesnt get Corrik to show up, I dont know what will.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Bro if I thought you were scum I would vote for you. But you didn't kill me yesterday when you could have, so there is zero chance of it. I'm completely certain of this read.

The only chance is if you're third party, but that's not something to consider without proof.

What does this mean

Personally I wouldnt want to neighbor Ulti as scum anyway. Too outspoken a player.

he was friendly and forthcoming with his info. believed I was town power and thought it would be beneficial to share info.

I was vanilla. he was trying to get info from me while making me feel comfortable.

we also spoke about our families... unrelated to the game.

I wish I wasn't too broke to go to FullNetal Malchemist tonight

Okay I went over the end of day1 and based on that I actually think everyone on the Ctes lynch looks pretty good. In fact it was the early voters who got the special rolling in the first place. They even tried it twice.

But to recap:
JC voted Ctes first due to his badlooking PoE post.

Kirby called out Ctes' inactivity. Then later mentioned he'd be okay with a Ctes lynch but preferred lynching Lea. Though he didnt like to lynch Red before Ctes and voted Ctes early on due to not wanting to lynch Ulti either.

JC then unvoted Ctes when he thought Ctes was not getting enough momentum. Kirby also unvoted Ctes to revote Lea.
But then Corrik rose in votes and Kirby stated he didnt like those votes and still wanted Lea or Ctes lynched. JC suggested the Ctes special and the two revoted Ctes. Changmas soon followed, Wallz voted with his meh and Lea sealed the deal.
This all happened very quickly tho, so its hard to judge everyone who did not vote Ctes.

Ulti already admitted to sticking with Corrik for self preservation, so its hard to read into his refusal to switch to Ctes. Its both fair and convenient.

Red voted Corrik after the special had already started. He explained why today, but it would have been better if he explained his vote when it happened.

Isquen was just joking around and kept his vote on Corrik throughout. Just another knock against him at this stage.
Already spoke about Ben, but Sbell is basically the same. Sbell still wanted to kill Ulti and did not entertain the Corrik and Ctes 'specials' that happened after he voted Ulti. Though also as with Ben, I feel scumBell would have been more proactive if he saw Ctes getting all those votes.

FD, Corrik and Mzero were not around.

Based on that alone, it does just look like the remaining scum is Isquen, Mzero, FD
But again, a lot depends on what Corrik is or how much scum under-estimated the Ctes train.

Notably Wallz suggests FD as a special. Need to look into this.

Btw did Ben explain why he spent all of EOD1 making votals and keeping his vote on Mzero?

LOL, accidentally left in a sentence from when I started the ISO that I put into a separate post already. (and I got my answers already too)

htaeD posted...

Notably Wallz suggests FD as a special.

Twice in the final minutes he did this. It was with reluctance and literally a "meh" that he went along with the ctes lynch <_<

htaeD posted...

Btw did Ben explain why he spent all of EOD1 making votals and keeping his vote on Mzero?

Yes, it was along the lines of him being fine with anyone but Ulti being lynched at that point and that he would only move his vote to save Ulti. (I'm pretty sure that was it anyways)