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Seanchan 03/10/24 12:46:53 PM #201: |
Good first half City/Pool. Lots of energy and intensity from both sides.
Liverpool had some good chances but City gets a brilliant goal from a corner. Feels like well get a goal or three in the 2nd half. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 03/10/24 12:53:27 PM #202: |
Awful by Ederson
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pezzicle 03/10/24 3:59:52 PM #203: |
well that was an awful way to start my day
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Seanchan 03/10/24 4:03:09 PM #204: |
A draw was probably the right result. Feels like both City and Pool had chances they didnt put away.
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ctesjbuvf 03/10/24 5:16:48 PM #205: |
Arsenal still have City at Etihad though.
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ExThaNemesis 03/10/24 7:40:06 PM #206: |
We're so much better than City honestly.
I have never felt more confident going to the Etihad than this year. I think we could 3-0 them tbh. GREAT DAY TO BE TOP OF THE LEAGUE THOUGH LADS I HAVE TO SAY --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RyoCaliente 03/10/24 8:13:43 PM #207: |
It must be the American in you, because I cannot fathom how you can be an Arsenal fan and yet still be that confident/arrogant.
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pezzicle 03/10/24 8:48:40 PM #208: |
RyoCaliente posted...
It must be the American in you, because I cannot fathom how you can be an Arsenal fan and yet still be that confident/arrogant. every Arsenal fan I know if arrogant as hell --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 03/10/24 8:52:16 PM #209: |
Eh, I don't believe the vast majority has that kind of confidence/arrogance at all.
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 10:05:08 AM #210: |
RyoCaliente posted...
It must be the American in you, because I cannot fathom how you can be an Arsenal fan and yet still be that confident/arrogant. Because of the way we've been playing and the way the other clubs have been playing. We have just genuinely been better. Statistically, stylistically. And we're generally pretty healthy right now, too. *knock on wood* --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 03/11/24 10:07:15 AM #211: |
hey now
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ctesjbuvf 03/11/24 10:21:15 AM #212: |
One thing is thinking a win is possible and that you're in grate shape. Another thing is thinking any team can beat City 3-0 away lol.
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 10:30:09 AM #213: |
Liverpool should've beat them 3-1 yesterday.
We can and should be winning by a few goals. If we have our full strength side, it's what I expect. I'll take anything that gives me three points but make no mistake, we're comfortably the best team in the league right now and the table finally fucking reflects it. We have to finish the story! --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheep007 03/11/24 11:06:09 AM #214: |
Arsenal are good but I don't think they're quite there yet. You've got way harder fixtures than everyone else too, I don't think it's impossible for them to win the title but they're easily third favourites even with the Liverpool injuries and City being inconsistent given how good both sides have been under pressure in the past. Not just hoping but expecting to win at City by a few goals is beyond silly, even a draw would be a very solid result.
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FFDragon 03/11/24 11:09:39 AM #215: |
if arsenal gets knocked out of champions tomorrow I can see them having an edge
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 12:36:50 PM #216: |
It is not the past. You guys just keep expecting things to go how they've gone in the past because it's what you're used to.
Nothing about this Arsenal side is the same as it was. We've also beaten City twice this year already. We're ahead of City in every statistical category this year as well. I want to change the mentality of "uwu let's take a point at the Etihad" to "We are the favorites. We're going to go there and win" And like I said, if we win at the Etihad, all the other "hard" fixtures are a lot more winnable mentality-wise. Except at Old Trafford. IDK what force of nature we'd need to get over the help from the referees they get against us at that place, but hopefully we're far enough ahead by that point for it to not matter. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 12:39:09 PM #217: |
Also every word I said about the Bundesliga and Bayern rings true of they poach Xabi Alonso next season.
I lose every ounce of respect I had for him as well, honestly. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 03/11/24 12:47:01 PM #218: |
Don't worry I still have faith in Arsenal to spurs it up
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 12:50:22 PM #219: |
we've won more than sp*rs and wet spam combined, don't chat to me 6-0
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FFDragon 03/11/24 12:51:00 PM #220: |
oooh you won one of three against us this year I'm scurred
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Shattered 03/11/24 1:25:57 PM #221: |
I'd say regardless of play, City are the favorites just because they have so much experience in this situation. They are just a different animal in the backend of the season who seemingly rarely ever drop points year after year ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 03/11/24 2:11:21 PM #222: |
I don't even think you can say comfortably the best on current form. That Brentford match wasn't exactly great, they start behind tomorrow against a good draw. When did City last lose a game like that anywhere? No one is saying they can't win it, but this is just dumb.
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 4:19:08 PM #223: |
City all season long have been dropping points like that so again, this year is not the same.
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ctesjbuvf 03/11/24 4:37:24 PM #224: |
Oh they can drop points for sure. But by several goals at home without scoring, I'm not seeing it. Most of their point drops they still score a lot.
I mean, I would love the result but yeah. Now if it comes up that Rodri should be out that would be more promising. He hasn't lost a match in forever. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 03/11/24 6:51:07 PM #225: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
one of the craziest stats tbh 59 games! --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 03/11/24 6:58:47 PM #226: |
Rodri is such a great player, and carries on the recent tradition of City midfielders anchors from Gundogan, Fernandino, and Yaya Toure. Not all were the same level of being defensively minded but their presence just calms everything down and allows all our attacking talent to do their thing. They also all had the innate ability to step further forward score a killer goal when need be.
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ExThaNemesis 03/11/24 11:13:20 PM #227: |
Yeah Rodri looked real great on Sunday. Did y'all see Diaz bodybag both him and Walker on that one run?
Also we've beaten them twice this year. We beat them in the Community Shield with Rodri in the team. The disrespect to Arsenal who are by almost every metric the best team in the country is unreal. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 03/12/24 6:23:05 AM #228: |
I think it speaks volumes about him that City lost games literally every single time he was out for a bit and never otherwise. Community Shield was penalties usually accepted as a draw in stats like that.
It's not disrespect to Arsenal to not think they can beat City by more than anyone has done in forever at their home. If you had said you simple believed they could take victory no one would have said anything most likely. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 03/12/24 9:11:47 AM #229: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
If you had said you simple believed they could take victory no one would have said anything most likely. --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 9:19:39 AM #230: |
Love how people will give City a pass for that, but we're bottlers for losing the league when we had to put Rob Holding in for William Saliba at the end of last season lol
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malyg 03/12/24 9:47:39 AM #231: |
ExThaNemesis posted... Love how people will give City a pass for that, but we're bottlers for losing the league when we had to put Rob Holding in for William Saliba at the end of last season lol Teams get called bottlers for a lot for things they shouldn't but you failed to win 6 of your last 9 games, threw a 2-0 lead twice in consecutive games to kickstart that run, lost 7-2 on aggregate to the team you were competing against, and ultimately threw away a massive points lead that very few have ever matched. Bottlers is a fair term here. Saying you had "an" injury won't shake that. Hardly the first time you've done it either 2008, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2016, 2017, falling apart during the business end of the season despite being contenders up until them has been a reoccurring theme for Arsenal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 9:55:39 AM #232: |
So either we bottled the league, or City were one of the greatest club sides in the history of European football.
Only one of those things can be true. Because it's pretty impossible for the youngest team in the league to be considered bottlers when they lose to THAT. The same can be said for the two clubs that come up short this year. They would've both lost to an absolutely ELITE team and there'd be almost no shame in it. It's why before this week I said if we finish on 94 and Klopp's Liverpool win out and get 96, you just have to hold your hands up and say fair play. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 9:58:01 AM #233: |
I actually think the experience from what happened last year (and adding Declan Rice) will help us get through it this year.
It sucks that our fixture list is so much harder than the other two. Our end of the season schedules keep doing that. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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malyg 03/12/24 10:15:37 AM #234: |
ExThaNemesis posted... Only one of those things can be true. That's bullshit tho. You were 8 points clear with 9 to go, it didn't matter what City did from that point onwards, if you hadn't fucked up, you're champions. Only one of those games faced you against city, you failed to win 5 more of them You controlled your own destiny and fucked it massively at the most crucial time. ExThaNemesis posted... The same can be said for the two clubs that come up short this year. They would've both lost to an absolutely ELITE team and there'd be almost no shame in it. It's why before this week I said if we finish on 94 and Klopp's Liverpool win out and get 96, you just have to hold your hands up and say fair play. Agreed, but that isn't what happened last season. ExThaNemesis posted... I actually think the experience from what happened last year (and adding Declan Rice) will help us get through it this year. Agreed kinda. I don't think you'll do it this season, City just don't lose title races. But there were two contenders last season and you got 0 points from those two matches. There's 3 contenders this year and you already have 7 points from them, which is already better than what Liverpool or City can do. That's the hardest bit, the slip ups against the rest of the league will become less as your team matures and you continue to add pieces to it. You just can't have another capitulation that sees you finish a distant second/third after being up their ass the whole season coz it's the same shit we've all seen in the previous seasons i mentioned. It'll just add to the pressure when you're next in that situation. Like England with penalties, the more you fail at something the harder it comes to eventually overcome it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 10:39:36 AM #235: |
malyg posted...
That's bullshit tho. You were 8 points clear with 9 to go, it didn't matter what City did from that point onwards, if you hadn't fucked up, you're champions. Only one of those games faced you against city, you failed to win 5 more of them You controlled your own destiny and fucked it massively at the most crucial time. You're calling my stuff bullshit but you don't even have your own story down. We were never 8 points clear. City had a game in hand while we were ahead 8, and we still had to play them at the Etihad. And you can say it's just "one injury" but we lost William Saliba and Tomiyasu for the rest of the season in the same Europa League game. Injuries aren't an excuse, but they're a reason for sure. Certainly throwing away the leads we did wasn't good, but I'm more than okay with what we did last year considering the injuries, the youngest team in the league, and a manager in his first ever job competing against the greatest manager of all time with the greatest club side money could ever buy. The term 'bottlers' is so lazy and harsh. It's absolute anti-thinking and you should demand better from yourself. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 10:41:27 AM #236: |
and I already know the way the goalposts get moved on Arsenal, if we do go 10/10 and win the league, instead of having it be revered as one of the greatest achievements in football history it will be "well Liverpool were injured/City had a down year" and whatever other narrative people need in order to downplay it.
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malyg 03/12/24 11:02:41 AM #237: |
ExThaNemesis posted... We were never 8 points clear. ExThaNemesis posted... while we were ahead 8 ok By the time they played their game in hand, they drew it having already won the league to move 8 points clear. Or 8 points "ahead" as there's apparently a major difference. Their game in hand had nothing to do with you bottling, it could have outright not have been played and they still beat you by 4 points. It was completely inconsequential to the title race because you had already fucked it by then. ExThaNemesis posted... Injuries aren't an excuse, but they're a reason for sure. Agreed, injures are reasons. Other reasons are capitulation during the most important period of a season. There's a good term for that. ExThaNemesis posted... Certainly throwing away the leads we did wasn't good, but I'm more than okay with what we did last year considering the injuries, the youngest team in the league, and a manager in his first ever job competing against the greatest manager of all time with the greatest club side money could ever buy. No one's saying you can't be ok with it. Just getting into the situation to actually bottle the league was impressive, no one expected you to be that good. The season before that I saw the team you rolled out first game against Brentford and laughed, thinking you'd never even make top4 again any time soon. You proved a lot of people wrong, enjoyed a good season that set the scene for a promising future, and were outright better than the best team in the league for 75% of the season. But you still bottled it. ExThaNemesis posted... The term 'bottlers' is so lazy and harsh. It's absolute anti-thinking and you should demand better from yourself.It's an overused term coz pretty much everyone whose ever lost now gets called it, but saying you bottled it here is completely valid. Getting upset at the term doesn't change that. It's existed for decades before footballing twitter/reddit decided to grind the term into the ground. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 11:06:17 AM #238: |
I really just don't think it's ever applicable to a team that no one expected to be there, but I can also accept that I am fiercely defensive of Arsenal and could probably just let it go.
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 11:13:31 AM #239: |
I actually think THIS YEAR would be more of a bottle job
For us to ALL SEASON LONG have the best xG stats, the best defense, and lose out on the title because we took 1 point from Fulham? That would fucking kill me. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 11:27:43 AM #240: |
Kyle Walker:
I feel the referee did really well. Absolutely shameless this guy. Cuddling up to the referees after they let them get away with that blatant pen on Sunday. I'm in awe. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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malyg 03/12/24 11:36:42 AM #241: |
I've been using "bottled" pretty interchangeably with "fucked it", change it to that or something like "choking" or "capitulating" if it helps any. Bottling is just convenient coz you also get bottlers and bottle as opposed to "those who fucked it" and "capacity to not fuck it". I sympathize with not liking the term, as said it has been incredibly watered down by reddit/twitter/etc and even before that means different things to different people. But I just don't see how describing a dramatic capitulation from such an advantageous position in a high pressure situation as bottling to be unfair. Getting into a discussion on the definition of "bottling" is too tedious for me to want to continue this though, lets just agree to disagree. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 11:57:12 AM #242: |
For sure I'm good w that.
Hopefully we don't bottle it against Porto this evening! --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Smash Ultimate Switch Code: SW-6933-1523-8505 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 03/12/24 12:49:23 PM #243: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
For sure I'm good w that.yes please dont that 5th spot would be really ideal --- stop victory lapping around your desk, your chair has rollers, it's not even really exercise ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seanchan 03/12/24 6:00:01 PM #244: |
Not sure if I'm rooting for or against Arsenal in extra time...
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Seanchan 03/12/24 6:38:28 PM #245: |
PKs, naturally
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ctesjbuvf 03/12/24 7:07:07 PM #246: |
Second match that felt interesting until the last minute. Big result for Arsenal to reach that point, not the most convinced result overall.
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 7:14:51 PM #247: |
That was the least fun thing I've ever watched in my life until the end.
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ctesjbuvf 03/12/24 7:20:57 PM #248: |
I was honestly a bit worried about Raya. No reason to apparently.
Also say what you want about Pepe but how can he play 120 minutes of CL like this aged 41, I don't get it. Hat off to that. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 03/12/24 7:21:27 PM #249: |
Yeah and he wasn't just out there filling a spot, he was legitimately the best CB on the pitch tonight. Both Saliba and Big Gab looked nervy and off it a lot of the night.
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ctesjbuvf 03/12/24 7:23:19 PM #250: |
Yeah, I only watch him occasionally in CL or for Portugal but he just doesn't seem to drop. I'm sure we will see him do well in the Euros too. Probably a starter for a country I would say are third favorites to win it.
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