Poll of the Day > Reps and Dems banned; Which third party are you voting for?

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can i vote for The Squad

the DNC barely considers them members

These days, about the only candidate I'm willing to vote for is this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_for_President


Though if I had to pick a party from the list, Bull Moose is about the only one I can stand.

I might be willing to go with the Whigs (because the best US President ever was a member of that party), but there are still lunatic fringe offshoots of it still floating around in the US (and there's a revival party in the UK that started over the last decade or so), so I can't side with them because they technically still exist.

My vote would be cast for Vermin Supreme.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/684e31af.jpg

Bernie Sanders

Libertarians, like every other election

think i'd just roblox myself

Of the parties listed, I like the Green best, which isn't saying much. Whigs are but a Republican precursor when the core of their identity was to be anti Andrew Jackson, rather than just anti Democrat in general such as when the GOP formed in the 1850s. Libertarians are a GOP-lite for non-MAGA Republicans who want to evade all social responsibility and call socially contracted things like taxes theft. I don't have much or any information on the others to even try coming up with an opinion.

Otherwise, I'd rather say The Rent is Too Damn High Party is looking good.

Man bear pig.

honestly the libertarian party wouldn't be a terrible choice, if it was still gary johnson running (holy fuck he's still 10 years younger than biden)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ

guy got booed by other libertarians for his shocking take on driver's licenses

agesboy posted...

honestly the libertarian party wouldn't be a terrible choice, if it was still gary johnson running (holy fuck he's still 10 years younger than biden)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ

guy got booed by other libertarians for his shocking take on driver's licenses

Lmao those first two guys seem like a satirical skit rather than reality

The Rock seemed like a good choice. Shame he's not running. Literally could have saved the free world if he used his star power for good

SinisterSlay posted...

The Rock seemed like a good choice

Lol no

captpackrat posted...

My vote would be cast for Vermin Supreme.

Maybe someone needs to track down one of Pigasus' descendants and convince them to run:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigasus_(politics)


Or we could always go for the related candidate...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobody_for_President



Jen0125 posted...

Bernie Sanders

That's the biggest joke answer in the entire topic!



Entity13 posted...

Whigs are but a Republican precursor when the core of their identity was to be anti Andrew Jackson, rather than just anti Democrat in general such as when the GOP formed in the 1850s

Not exactly. If anything, they're sort of a cross between the two current parties. And it was less that they were "anti-Jackson", more that the party was already splitting along ideological lines and Jackson became the figurehead of one half, while the other half basically jumped ship and joined with what was left of the Federalists to form an opposing bloc. So it became easy to rally dissent by focusing on Jackson as the face of the opposition.

The Whigs were strongly in favor of federal power and development, while the Democrats of the era were strongly non-interventionist (to the point where FDR's New Deal would have been far more likely to be a Whig proposal than a Democrat one based on the ideology of the two parties in the 1800s). Things like social nets, financial support, and public works projects would have fallen more under the Whig ambit than the Democrat one. The Whigs also supported higher education pretty strongly. And they were generally anti-war and anti-imperialist. If anything, you could argue that they fused the economic drive of modern Republicans with the sense of social responsibility of modern Democrats - in some ways, you could almost describe them as anti-libertarians.

In a lot of ways, the Whigs were sort of what a lot of people today wish the Republicans were.

And when they broke up, just as many of them drifted into the Democrats as Republicans - it was mostly the northern Whigs who helped form the Republican Party, but most of the southern Whigs wound up joining the Democrats after the war (and were mostly anti-secessionist and a significant opposition party during the war). There really isn't a clear line from Whig to Republican any more than there's a clean lineage from Federalist to Whig.

It doesn't really help that neither current party really represents the claimed ideologies they used to anyway. The Democrats of the 20th and 21st centuries are significantly different from the Democrats of the 19th century (in the same way that one could argue that the Republicans of the 1800s are significantly different from the Republicans of most of the 1900s, who in turn are both different from the Republicans of today since the 1980s or so). Both parties have pulled significant 180 turns on various policy issues or ideological stances (like the Lincoln-era Republicans being radically in favor of equality versus the strongly pro-slavery southern Democrats during the Civil War era, contrasted with the strong push towards civil rights issues from the Democrats that was mostly led by LBJ, which has led most people today to see the Democrats as the "pro-minority" party).

Parties evolve. Parties betray their established ideals all the time (or more charitably "evolve" with the times). And the two-party system as a whole tends to force them into ideological extremes where every issue is simplified into an either/or binary choice in spite of the fact that the world almost never works that way, and that type of thinking almost always does far more harm than good.

But hey, one team can say "Other team bad!" and get re-elected (and get paid!), so apparently the system is working as intended!



Entity13 posted...

Libertarians are a GOP-lite for non-MAGA Republicans who want to evade all social responsibility and call socially contracted things like taxes theft.

If anything, the Libertarian Party in the US is mostly for people who want to get high. Or for people who are already high and believe at least 2-3 conspiracy theories. Possibly including the assumption that everyone in Washington DC is either a lizard person or an agent of a vast Jewish/Zionist cabal.

Most actual libertarians and An-Caps I've know refuse to vote for Libertarian candidates, because they don't see them as representing their actual ideals or philosophy.

It's the irony of the US political system - the Conservatives aren't conservative, the Liberals aren't liberal, and the Libertarians aren't libertarian.

Also, the Green Party doesn't include a single green person (that I know of).



Entity13 posted...

Otherwise, I'd rather say The Rent is Too Damn High Party is looking good.

What we really need is someone to start this party in the US:

https://youtu.be/h6mJw50OdZ4?t=90

There's no point in voting for a third party in the current system and there's no incentive or reason for the current parties to change that system.

__starsnostars posted...

There's no point in voting for a third party in the current system

so if the reps and dems get banned... you'd just not vote at all?

__starsnostars posted...

There's no point in voting for a third party in the current system and there's no incentive or reason for the current parties to change that system.

yeah but the topic is specifically asking what third party would you vote for if there was a point to it

would you respond to a topic asking "what is your favorite dragon" with "DRAGONS AREN'T REAL"

If reps and dems are banned then two parties will take their place and it will still be pointless to vote third party.

My favourite dragon is obviously the komodo dragon.

new founding fathers of america

kodos

Libertarians.

man i know they're all pretty bad, but this is just embarrassinghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/304214d9.png

being a Libertarian is equivalent to taking your hands off the wheels of your vehicle and then getting upset when something goes wrong

Bull Moose
If Teddy were alive today he would absolutely lose his shit over what big businesses have become

mario

Zareth posted...

Bull Moose
If Teddy were alive today he would absolutely lose his shit over what big businesses have become

The platform's main theme was reversing the domination of politics by business interests, which allegedly controlled the Republican and Democratic parties, alike. The platform asserted: "To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."

To that end, the platform called for:

• Strict limits and disclosure requirements on political campaign contributions
• Registration of lobbyists
• Recording and publication of Congressional committee proceedings

In the social sphere, the platform called for:

• A national health service to include all existing government medical agencies
• Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled
• Limiting the ability of judges to order injunctions to limit labor strikes
• A minimum wage law for women
• An eight-hour workday
• A federal securities commission
• Farm relief
• Workers' compensation for work-related injuries
• An inheritance tax

The political reforms proposed included:

• Women's suffrage
• Direct election of senators
• Primary elections for state and federal nominations
• Easier amending of the United States Constitution

The platform also urged states to adopt measures for "direct democracy", including:

• The recall election (citizens may remove an elected official before the end of his term)
• The referendum (citizens may decide on a law by popular vote)
• The initiative (citizens may propose a law by petition and enact it by popular vote)
• Judicial recall (when a court declares a law unconstitutional, the citizens may override that ruling by popular vote)

captpackrat posted...

The platform's main theme was reversing the domination of politics by business interests, which allegedly controlled the Republican and Democratic parties, alike. The platform asserted: "To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."

To that end, the platform called for:
* Strict limits and disclosure requirements on political campaign contributions
* Registration of lobbyists
* Recording and publication of Congressional committee proceedings
In the social sphere, the platform called for:
* A national health service to include all existing government medical agencies
* Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled
* Limiting the ability of judges to order injunctions to limit labor strikes
* A minimum wage law for women
* An eight-hour workday
* A federal securities commission
* Farm relief
* Workers' compensation for work-related injuries
* An inheritance tax
The political reforms proposed included:
* Women's suffrage
* Direct election of senators
* Primary elections for state and federal nominations
* Easier amending of the United States Constitution
The platform also urged states to adopt measures for "direct democracy", including:
* The recall election (citizens may remove an elected official before the end of his term)
* The referendum (citizens may decide on a law by popular vote)
* The initiative (citizens may propose a law by petition and enact it by popular vote)
* Judicial recall (when a court declares a law unconstitutional, the citizens may override that ruling by popular vote)

dang, sounds like best party

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ecd20104.jpg

Alice Cooper.
But seriously, Libertarian I guess.