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solosnake
02/27/24 7:35:23 PM
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https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=3755544&page=1

Well, it's official. Albus Dumbledore, a hero of the phenomenally popular Harry Potter series and headmaster of the wizarding school Hogwarts, is gay.
That's right, Harry's mentor and father-figure would prefer a nice wizard to a hot witch any day.
In a surprising new Potter twist, author J.K. Rowling outed Dumbledore at New York's Carnegie Hall in front of 2,000 Potter fans during a question and answer session Friday night.
After reading an excerpt from the seventh installment of her series, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," one young fan asked if Dumbledore had ever loved anyone.
"Dumbledore is gay, actually," replied Rowling.

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Zikten
02/27/24 7:36:33 PM
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But what if Dumbledore was trans?
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Guide
02/27/24 7:37:28 PM
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Was this not confirmed like a billion years ago

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Revisited
02/27/24 7:37:56 PM
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Lol I love how someone in a 10 year coma would wake up and be shocked at the reversal of JK Rowling being a liberal icon to a conservative icon
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pnut027
02/27/24 7:38:21 PM
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Zikten posted...
But what if Dumbledore was trans?
Are you gay if youre a trans man who likes cis men?

Im confused.

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Incredible
02/27/24 7:38:46 PM
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Is he a transphobic piece of shit like she is

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lilORANG
02/27/24 7:39:18 PM
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It's a pretty important plot point in those Fantastic Beasts things

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Voidgolem
02/27/24 7:39:47 PM
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wasn't this confirmed like fifteen years ago

like it was the first bombshell she dropped in her "I am addicted to internet popularity" arc. Just before the "Wizards just shit themselves and magic it out" one

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VideoboysaysCube
02/27/24 7:40:18 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Yeah...the answer implies that gay people are incapable of love.

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KitKats
02/27/24 7:41:32 PM
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Shoe horning in a retcon purely to score points

pretty shitty representation in media to only indicate he is gay after the fact

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Umbreon
02/27/24 7:42:05 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



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MartavisBryant
02/27/24 7:42:11 PM
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Dumbledore loved calmly

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BlueBoy675
02/27/24 7:42:43 PM
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https://youtu.be/D1RMITgiPyk?si=fqKwuodA180j3LYd

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rexcrk
02/27/24 7:43:30 PM
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What is this, 2007?


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KitKats
02/27/24 7:43:53 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

They had gay sex.

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pegusus123456
02/27/24 7:44:54 PM
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VideoboysaysCube posted...
Yeah...the answer implies that gay people are incapable of love.
You should probably stop making snap assumptions before reading the full article. She mentions he was gay firstly because the full answer is that he was in love with Grindelwald.

Like I know Rowling has chosen to be...that nowadays, but this isn't a case of it.

KitKats posted...
Shoe horning in a retcon purely to score points

pretty shitty representation in media to only indicate he is gay after the fact

It also wasn't really this. Dumbledore being gay didn't have anything to do with the story and she just answered when someone directly asked if he'd ever been in love with someone. This was back in the early 2000s when a gay character in a children's story was insanely progressive and more likely to hurt sales than help them.

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lilORANG
02/27/24 7:47:50 PM
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VideoboysaysCube posted...
Yeah...the answer implies that gay people are incapable of love.
Not if you read the full quote

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ROBANN_88
02/27/24 7:49:15 PM
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Why did you decide to share a 15 year old article as if it was news?

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thronedfire2
02/27/24 7:49:51 PM
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didn't that happen like 12 years ago

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KitKats
02/27/24 7:50:16 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
It also wasn't really this. Dumbledore being gay didn't have anything to do with the story and she just answered when someone directly asked if he'd ever been in love with someone. This was back in the early 2000s when a gay character in a children's story was insanely progressive and more likely to hurt sales than help them.
Exactly, which is what makes it so shitty and why it was off putting to many people in the LGBT+ community

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MarcyWarcy
02/27/24 7:51:16 PM
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will the next movie show him getting some dumbledick

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KitKats
02/27/24 7:52:26 PM
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This was back when JK Rowling was making bizarre comments on Twitter and people thought maybe she was losing her mind or some such

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Kradek
02/27/24 7:53:14 PM
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What year is this?

And I stand by my position that she didn't intend for him to be, it was just convenient to keep and encourage new LGB fans.

Oh, this is just the actual 2009 article lol, I thought it was a new article.

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LeoRavus
02/27/24 7:53:39 PM
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Posting in 14 yr old thread

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DrizztLink
02/27/24 7:54:42 PM
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Kradek posted...
And I stand by my position that she didn't intend for him to be, it was just convenient to keep and encourage new LGB fans.
I remember there was a list or something she made of "hints" about it and one of them was literally just swan diving off a rock and swimming.

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ironman2009
02/27/24 7:54:59 PM
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snape with the hate crime

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Tyranthraxus
02/27/24 7:55:13 PM
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Zikten posted...
But what if Dumbledore was trans?

This video was published in 2018 if anyone was looking for a time table of how quickly her descent into terf madness was. The first 20 seconds of this video or so aged extremely badly lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxpwlKRQ2U

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KitKats
02/27/24 7:57:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
This video was published in 2018 if anyone was looking for a time table of how quickly her descent into terf madness was. The first 20 seconds of this video or so aged extremely badly lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxpwlKRQ2U
LMAO

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Hinakuluiau
02/27/24 8:00:04 PM
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It was a pretty common fantheory in the mid 00's before she confirmed it. She's bad because of a bunch of reasons, we don't need to make up shit to point out how awful she is as a human being

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ModernPost
02/27/24 8:00:07 PM
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What year is it?

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Kradek
02/27/24 8:02:18 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I remember there was a list or something she made of "hints" about it and one of them was literally just swan diving off a rock and swimming.

Lol I don't remember that one. Often people cite the close relationship he had with Grindelwald, but it always just felt like one of brothers, not lovers. Also that he's like chronically single, which I get why a lot of gay men with easily lost status/reputation would stay in the closet that way, however Dumbledore was literally the most revered wizard in the world. He could have been having publicized gay orgies and that wouldn't have changed his status in the world.

Tyranthraxus posted...
This video was published in 2018 if anyone was looking for a time table of how quickly her descent into terf madness was. The first 20 seconds of this video or so aged extremely badly lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxpwlKRQ2U

Lol

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KitKats
02/27/24 8:03:45 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
It was a pretty common fantheory in the mid 00's before she confirmed it. She's bad because of a bunch of reasons, we don't need to make up shit to point out how awful she is as a human being
Who is making shit up?

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Hinakuluiau
02/27/24 8:06:16 PM
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KitKats posted...
Who is making shit up?
Everyone who claims it's a retcon

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KitKats
02/27/24 8:07:42 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Everyone who claims it's a retcon
Im not sure you know what retcon means, then. Dumbledore being gay is 100% a retcon.

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ModernPost
02/27/24 8:08:03 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Everyone who claims it's a retcon
Well it isn't in the text.

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KitKats
02/27/24 8:12:54 PM
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Retroactive Continuity is when new information is added to a story that retroactively affects continuity. It doesnt even have to be something contradictory, but sometimes it can be. Sexuality definitely falls under this, if it is not initially established, as well as any material related to a characters backstory.

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Hinakuluiau
02/27/24 8:13:04 PM
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ModernPost posted...
Well it isn't in the text.
Harry also doesn't shit in the books but we can assume he does. Like I said, Dumbledore being gay was something many readers had already theorized before she confirmed it.
My point is that Rowling's a piece of shit for many racist and transphobic reasons, we don't need to make up stuff like claiming she only made Dumbledore gay to be seen as progressive to make her look bad.

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thronedfire2
02/27/24 8:13:14 PM
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KitKats posted...
Im not sure you know what retcon means, then. Dumbledore being gay is 100% a retcon.

no it isn't. as far as the original books are concerned he was 100% asexual, because his sexuality was never mentioned.

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02/27/24 8:13:48 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Everyone who claims it's a retcon

....it quite literally is exactly that

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pegusus123456
02/27/24 8:14:55 PM
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KitKats posted...
Im not sure you know what retcon means, then. Dumbledore being gay is 100% a retcon.
No, I think you might be the one that doesn't know what retcon means. The series itself says nothing about Dumbledore's sexuality. Rowling saying he's gay after the fact doesn't change anything, it's just info we didn't have.

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KitKats
02/27/24 8:16:16 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
No, I think you might be the one that doesn't know what retcon means. The series itself says nothing about Dumbledore's sexuality. Rowling saying he's gay after the fact doesn't change anything, it's just info we didn't have.
Thats called retroactive continuity, or a retcon. This doesnt have to be contradictory information.

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Trumble
02/27/24 8:18:06 PM
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pnut027 posted...
Are you gay if youre a trans man who likes cis men?

Im confused.
Is this hypothetical person a man? Does this hypothetical person solely like other men? If so, this hypothetical person is gay. Cis vs trans (on either side) has no bearing on it.

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pegusus123456
02/27/24 8:23:16 PM
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KitKats posted...
Thats called retroactive continuity, or a retcon. This doesnt have to be contradictory information.
Literally no one uses it in the way you're talking about. Deathly Hallows didn't retcon the previous six books by giving Snape backstory. No one talks about Pottermore retconning McGonagall because it says she called off her engagement because she believed it was repeating her mother's mistakes.

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Irony
02/27/24 8:26:48 PM
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She confirmed a long time ago that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were pounding each other

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DrizztLink
02/27/24 8:28:27 PM
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Irony posted...
She confirmed a long time ago that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were pounding each other
I thought for like 15 years that Grindelwald was supposed to be Hitler, so it when I learned that it was pretty fuckin' surprising.

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KitKats
02/27/24 8:28:30 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Literally no one uses it in the way you're talking about.
Thats not accurate at all, but Im happy to have helped broaden your horizons on the meaning of what a retcon is.

Dumbledore couldve been straight, or gay, bi, pan, ace, demi, or whatever you want. The author later establishing a sexuality retroactively affects the continuity. This most definitely includes new information that was not previously established, particularly in a book series as new information is introduced in later volumes that retroactively affects continuity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

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pegusus123456
02/27/24 8:30:07 PM
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KitKats posted...
Thats not accurate at all,
Show me an example of someone using it to mean what you're meaning.

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KitKats
02/27/24 8:30:56 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Show me an example of someone using it to mean what you're meaning.
Heres a good place for you to start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

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