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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:37:17 AM
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https://youtu.be/LfpXMuMvcWQ?si=I8Ft742JNr4SmOP0

LTT warning given their recent controversies.

But yeah not hard to build a PC on price with the PS5/XSX and have access to a majority of the console exclusives that are on one of the other now.

The build does assume that you already have a case you can use and a gamepad though. Unless you're building from scratch it doesn't seem hard to keep it in that range.

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hereforemnant
03/01/24 10:38:27 AM
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hyperpowder
03/01/24 10:39:05 AM
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But you can buy a PS5 for $400. The only difference is the disk drive which the PC build aint gonna have anyway

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Ratchetrockon
03/01/24 10:40:07 AM
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Dude it ran like shit for ratchet rift apart apparently. I skipped to that part.

I'll watch it more later when I'm on my pc

Ps5 runs that game at like 1290p to 1440p @ 60 fps on the performance mode option


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MarthGoomba
03/01/24 10:40:09 AM
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PC doesn't have Stellar Blade so it's a useless platform now

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__poi_____
03/01/24 10:40:38 AM
#6:


hyperpowder posted...
But you can buy a PS5 for $400. The only difference is the disk drive which the PC build aint gonna have anyway

With the 400 dollar PS5 you are limited to only buying games from Sony's shop that will eventually become discontinued.


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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:40:47 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
But you can buy a PS5 for $400. The only difference is the disk drive which the PC build aint gonna have anyway
Yeah, PS5 digital for $400 and a Series S for $250 is still going to be more combined.

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TotallyNotAGirl
03/01/24 10:41:41 AM
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Can't install an AdBlocker on your web browser on the PS5

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Smashingpmkns
03/01/24 10:41:46 AM
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Will_VIII posted...
Yeah, PS5 digital for $400 and a Series S for $250 is still going to be more combined.
Why would you need to buy both

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:42:37 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Why would you need to buy both
I suppose if you want access to the square Enix games and Sony games not on Xbox, and Bethesda games not on the PS5

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Auto_Chrisbot
03/01/24 10:42:42 AM
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I'm not going to click on that video because of that guy's smarmy ass face. Looks like an asshole.

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 10:43:26 AM
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Oh and the 500 dollar PC ran like shit lol

Sony always wins

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:45:33 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Oh and the 500 dollar PC ran like shit lol

Sony always wins
It didn't?

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TheLiarParadox
03/01/24 10:45:57 AM
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I was researching new PC stuff throughout January and early February, so I watched a lot of videos on youtube. I watched four or five of this kind of video until I realized there are always massive catches that they downplay, like getting lucky on the used market or handwaving glaring shortcomings of the build.

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 10:46:18 AM
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Will_VIII posted...
It didn't?

Most of the games were worse and crashed multiple times on Ratchet?

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:46:58 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Most of the games were worse and crashed multiple times on Ratchet?
Oh, you didn't watch the video

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streamofthesky
03/01/24 10:47:09 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
But you can buy a PS5 for $400. The only difference is the disk drive which the PC build aint gonna have anyway
The PS5 is cheaper, but the price you pay is supporting censorship.
PC also will have steeper discounts on the digital games and (if you care about that sort of thing) free online multiplayer.

__poi_____ posted...
With the 400 dollar PS5 you are limited to only buying games from Sony's shop that will eventually become discontinued.
Also this.

MarthGoomba posted...
PC doesn't have Stellar Blade so it's a useless platform now
Hopefully it will have it within a year.
I really want to buy that game, but not if it means buying a PS5.
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Ratchetrockon
03/01/24 10:48:31 AM
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ok yeah this is not a pc killer

my system 2080ti + 9900k runs ratchet and clank rift apart WORSE than the ps5. i get cpu bottlenecked in some parts. drops to 40 fps range. this is with ps5 compareable settings. i compared both versions a few months ago

the 3700x is like around the same tier as the 9900k

if i had a more up-to-date cpu/mobo/ram the 2080ti might edge out the ps5 slightly tho.

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 10:49:51 AM
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They recommend using the 5600x and the Intel Arc A770, though there are other 16gb VRAM cards available around that price IIRC if Intel is a deal breaker.

Been happy with my A750 though

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Ratchetrockon
03/01/24 10:56:08 AM
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oh shit im watching without sound rn

im assuming he used a 3700x cuz it showed onscreen. what is the build he's using?? i cant watch the vid properly rn and just skipping around

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:00:04 AM
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TheLiarParadox posted...
I was researching new PC stuff throughout January and early February, so I watched a lot of videos on youtube. I watched four or five of this kind of video until I realized there are always massive catches that they downplay, like getting lucky on the used market or handwaving glaring shortcomings of the build.

Thats why I cant stand PC gamers and pc gaming, its pretty disingenuous what youll actually spend for a constant gaming experience.

I have a 4080 with a 48 inch 4k LG monitor. Is it amazing? Yes, but it also cost me around $4000 once its all done. A PS5 is $400 (not $500) and can comfortably play what you need.

PC Bros are legit the worse and cant admit that PC gaming is way too expensive in comparison to console gaming.


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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:01:17 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Thats why I cant stand PC gamers and pc gaming, its pretty disingenuous what youll actually spend for a constant gaming experience.

I have a 4080 with a 48 inch 4k LG monitor. Is it amazing? Yes, but it also cost me around $4000 once its all done. A PS5 is $400 (not $500) and can comfortably play what you need.

PC Bros are legit the worse and cant admit that PC gaming is way too expensive in comparison to console gaming.
My gaming PC is in my entertainment center hooked up to my TV.

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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 11:02:56 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Thats why I cant stand PC gamers and pc gaming, its pretty disingenuous what youll actually spend for a constant gaming experience.

I have a 4080 with a 48 inch 4k LG monitor. Is it amazing? Yes, but it also cost me around $4000 once its all done. A PS5 is $400 (not $500) and can comfortably play what you need.


you overspent lol
not PC gaming's fault
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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:05:24 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
you overspent lol
not PC gaming's fault
Its an issue with mathematics.

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:07:59 AM
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Will_VIII posted...
My gaming PC is in my entertainment center hooked up to my TV. It's not significantly more expensive, that's just console fanboy propaganda.

ArsGoetia posted...
you overspent lol
not PC gaming's fault


ah the nature of the PC bros

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2Pacavelli
03/01/24 11:08:05 AM
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I'd much rather have a PS5 than a $500 PC.

PC gaming is something where you either do it right or don't do it at all or you're not going to have an enjoyable experience
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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:10:37 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
ah the nature of the PC bros
Hey man it's not my fault you fudged 3rd grade level mathematics

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2Pacavelli
03/01/24 11:11:02 AM
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The PS5 GPU is somewhat similar to the 2070 which is similar to the 3060ti

But the advantage is that PS5 is a closed platform so in general you'll get better performance and optimization on PS5 outside of rare circumstances
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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:11:21 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I'd much rather have a PS5 than a $500 PC.

PC gaming is something where you either do it right or don't do it at all or you're not going to have an enjoyable experience

I legit don't understand this do right or don't at all logic. Launch stream, launch game and I'm good to go

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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 11:11:22 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
ah the nature of the PC bros

i bought a PC in mid 2019 for $900 that has been able to play everything up til now on high or highest settings. literally not a single game has made me think "geez i need to get a new PC" yet
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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 11:11:49 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The PS5 GPU is somewhat similar to the 2070 which is similar to the 3060ti


and this is exactly what i have ^
a 2070 super
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Ratchetrockon
03/01/24 11:12:13 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
The PS5 GPU is somewhat similar to the 2070 which is similar to the 3060ti

But the advantage is that PS5 is a closed platform so I'm general you'll get better performance and optimization on PS5 outside of rare circumstances

that seems to be the case since it not too far off from like 2080-2080ti performance for some games like ratchet n clank rift apart.

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:17:25 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
i bought a PC in mid 2019 for $900 that has been able to play everything up til now on high or highest settings. literally not a single game has made me think "geez i need to get a new PC" yet

yeah i smell bullshit. I built a PC with a 1070 for around that price and time. That PC couldnt handle Cyberpunk at medium settings back in 2020.


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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:19:34 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
yeah i smell bullshit. I built a PC with a 1070 for around that price and time. That PC couldnt handle Cyberpunk at medium settings back in 2020.
You bought when prices were high, 5 years ago.

We're talking about what you can get in the present time.

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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 11:21:21 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
yeah i smell bullshit. I built a PC with a 1070 for around that price and time. That PC couldnt handle Cyberpunk at medium settings back in 2020.

my bad, they were $999
bought two, one for me one for my wife
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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:21:28 AM
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Will_VIII posted...
Hey man it's not my fault you fudged 3rd grade level mathematics

why do you keep going on about mathematics? Thats reality my guy, thats the truth. The cheapest 4080 right now on Newegg is 1100 dollars, thats ONE piece of the build.

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Jupiter
03/01/24 11:23:21 AM
#38:


hyperpowder posted...
why do you keep going on about mathematics? Thats reality my guy, thats the truth. The cheapest 4080 right now on Newegg is 1100 dollars, thats ONE piece of the build.
4080 is high end. You absolutely do not need high end. Especially if the PS5 is on part with 2070ish. That alone is several leagues higher than PS5.

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:24:05 AM
#39:


hyperpowder posted...
why do you keep going on about mathematics? Thats reality my guy, thats the truth. The cheapest 4080 right now on Newegg is 1100 dollars, thats ONE piece of the build.
The only one going on and on about having to spend 1000s of dollars is you, when this topic is about throwing something together for $500 that has enough parity with the current gen consoles.

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:25:30 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
my bad, they were $999
bought two, one for me one for my wife
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8e73ae3b.jpg

Doubt that Ryzen 5 and 8gb of video memory is keeping up now days. But I will say that PC prices were a hell of a lot reasonable then. I will say in your case I can understand but you still paid $600 dollars more than a base PS5

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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 11:28:09 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Doubt that Ryzen 5 and 8gb of video memory is keeping up now days. But I will say that PC prices were a hell of a lot reasonable then. I will say in your case I can understand but you still paid $600 dollars more than a base PS5

not having any problems
ps5 cant play the majority of games i play
cant mod
cant do any of the non-gaming tasks i use my pc for
edit: and what would 5 years of PS+ cost me? lol

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:30:09 AM
#42:


PS5 is likely the gaming device I'm using the most this year too lol

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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:33:16 AM
#43:


ArsGoetia posted...
not having any problems
ps5 cant play the majority of games i play
cant mod
cant do any of the non-gaming tasks i use my pc for

you have a shitty argument and you spend too much on computers lol


lol this is why PC bros are clowns. Are you guys arguing price now or functionality?


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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:34:26 AM
#44:


hyperpowder posted...
lol this is why PC bros are clowns. Are you guys arguing price now or functionality?
You're the one itt who doesn't seem to understand the difference between $500 and $4000 and you're the one calling others clowns?

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ArsGoetia
03/01/24 11:35:36 AM
#45:


hyperpowder posted...
lol this is why PC bros are clowns. Are you guys arguing price now or functionality?

are you like for real or are you trolling
bc we can shitpost back and forth if you wanna, i got the day off and i like shitposting
but youre acting like the options are 300 base model PS5 or 4000 gaming rig with no inbetweens and that both are capable of doing the same exact thing lol
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hyperpowder
03/01/24 11:37:02 AM
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Will_VIII posted...
You're the one itt who doesn't seem to understand the difference between $500 and $4000 and you're the one calling others clowns?

Because nobody is buying these shitty 500 dollar Intel Ark builds.

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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:37:32 AM
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hyperpowder posted...
Because nobody is buying these shitty 500 dollar Intel Ark builds.

Prove this.

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Ratchetrockon
03/01/24 11:37:36 AM
#48:


guys can a $500 pc run ratchet n clank rift apart at around 1440p solid 60 fps (w/ compareable ps5 settings which can be found in Digital Foundry's article)? if it can't then there is no pc killer at that price point yet.

this video shows the pc not handling that game well and to me this means Linus is a liar!!! he lied to us

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2Pacavelli
03/01/24 11:37:43 AM
#49:


I've been mainly a PC Gamer from 2009 - 2023 but recently moving to my new apartment and getting a PS5, I've used it way more than my PC and I have a 4090.

Mainly because of the ease of use. I still have to get my out of packing still and set it up etc and the PS5 is just there very easy to use and the graphics quality is high enough that I don't mind playing it to avoid the hassle
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Will_VIII
03/01/24 11:39:08 AM
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I just didn't want to wait for FF16 and Rebirth to come to PC which is why I have a PS5 lol

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