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Trump is Neutral Evil, Goku is Chaotic Good.

I voted chaotic evil, but I'd entertain the notion of neutral evil. You'd have to be genuinely delusional or straight-up lying to put him anywhere else.

His weaponization of the law prevents him from being fully chaotic, but his constant breaking of the law and sowing of chaos prevents him from being lawful. Neutral Evil unquestionably.

Stupid Evil

Chaotic Dumb

Chaotic stupid.

Other - Chaotic Stupid

Ultimate evil.

But out of AD&D choices, absolutely chaotic evil.

I think Wikipedia says it perfectly:

"A chaotic evil character tends to have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. They set a high value on personal freedom, but do not have much regard for the lives or freedom of other people. Chaotic evil characters do not work well in groups because they resent being given orders and usually do not behave themselves unless there is no alternative."

That fits Trump 100%. Tell me how it doesn't.

NE or CE... I've never really grasped when utter selfishness and a willingness to ignore "inconvenient" rules becomes Chaotic evil instead of regular sociopathic neutral evil

Wandering__Hero posted...

NE or CE... I've never really grasped when utter selfishness and a willingness to ignore "inconvenient" rules becomes Chaotic evil instead of regular sociopathic neutral evil

He's definitely Chaotic. Which law/rule he follow other than his own? And I'm not sure he follows his own rules.

DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...

Other - Chaotic Stupid

Boom

Ultimate Evil.

DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...

Other - Chaotic Stupid

He's too malicious to be Chaotic Neutral.

He's more Bill Cypher than Discord

Ricemills posted...

He's definitely Chaotic. Which law/rule he follow other than his own? And I'm not sure he follows his own rules.

Good answer, I'll click CE

Neutral Evil, although I had a brain fart and voted Chaotic Neutral.

Ricemills posted...

He's definitely Chaotic. Which law/rule he follow other than his own? And I'm not sure he follows his own rules.

Chaotic evil tends to be about using violence as a means to get what you want, whereas neutral evil is more about selfish desire at the expense of others.

Stupid Evil

Trump is Chaotic Evil
Goku is Neutral Evil

Neutral Evil. Ones actions bringing chaos is not what makes someone Chaotic.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Neutral Evil unquestionably.

He's too much of a bitch to ever last being chaotic evil. Sooner or later he would be challenged and lose bad.

Chaotic Evil, or at the very least, Neutral Evil with strong leanings toward the Chaotic end of the scale.

They would have to make up a new one for him, incompetent evil.

Chaotic Evil that thinks it's lawful good.

mustachedmystic posted...

They would have to make up a new one for him, incompetent evil.

Your alignments don't really have anything to do with how competent you are.

A holy Paladin who dedicates their entire life to rightoueness and defending the week who slips, falls and accidentally activates a nuke that blows up an orphanage is still Lawfull Good.

This dude is still Chaotic Evil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPUgjy-Pn-4

Sorry, I dont go in with that fantasy DnD shit. Trashing Americas Hitler, on the other hand is always fun.
Edit: ProZD is hilarious, love him.

Trump does evil things out of being ignorant, dumb or apathy. His only goal is to gain votes and will do whatever he thinks it takes to gain this. Other republicans are outright evil, cause THEY KNOW and have more awareness of what their policies will do.

'Chaotic Evil'

I was going to pick Lawful Evil until I read GenXer's post about Wikipedia describing it to a tee.

I don't see "chaotic stupidity" listed anywhere.

I voted Chaotic Evil, but thinking on it, probably closer to Neutral Evil.

Trump does whatever gets him power. If he can utilize the mechanisms of government and law to do that, he will. But he's willing to also tear the entire system apart if those mechanisms stop working for him.

Chaotic Stupid

Chaotic Stupid
Neutral Stupid
Stupid Evil

Somewhere along those lines

Neutral Evil obviously. That's most right wingers.

Lawful Woke

I assume the lawful good votes are troll votes?

Azn_Psycho posted...

Chaotic Stupid
Neutral Stupid
Stupid Evil

Somewhere along those lines

Can we just skip the middleman and label it "Stupid Stupid"?

ThePieReborn posted...

Can we just skip the middleman and label it "Stupid Stupid"?

That would be True Stupid

There's no Neutral Neutral

Yeah but Stupid Stupid just seems so appropriate for Trump.

I like that every option got at least 1 vote.

Chaotic Evil is someone like The Joker. Remember when he burned a pile of money? Trump would never do that. He's an asshole in many ways, but his ultimate and absolute interest is whatever benefits him. That's Neutral Evil, not Chaotic Evil. Though if pushed far enough, and his mind unravels further, he could potentially slip into the latter if he feels he has nothing left to lose.

Neutral Evil. I think it might seem like he has no rhyme or reason but the unifying theory of everything he does is that he only does things that he thinks will benefit himself.

GenXer posted...

Ultimate evil.

But out of AD&D choices, absolutely chaotic evil.

I think Wikipedia says it perfectly:

"A chaotic evil character tends to have no respect for rules, other people's lives, or anything but their own desires, which are typically selfish and cruel. They set a high value on personal freedom, but do not have much regard for the lives or freedom of other people. Chaotic evil characters do not work well in groups because they resent being given orders and usually do not behave themselves unless there is no alternative."

That fits Trump 100%. Tell me how it doesn't.

Lawful evil
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A lawful evil character sees a well-ordered system as being necessary to fulfill their own personal wants and needs, using these systems to further their power and influence. Examples of this alignment include tyrants, devils, corrupt officials, undiscriminating mercenary types who have a strict code of conduct, blue dragons, and hobgoblins.[11][31]

Neutral evil
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A neutral evil character is typically selfish and has no qualms about turning on allies-of-the-moment, and usually makes allies primarily to further their own goals. A neutral evil character has no compunctions about harming others to get what they want, but neither will they go out of their way to cause carnage or mayhem when they see no direct benefit for themselves. Another valid interpretation of neutral evil holds up evil as an ideal, doing evil for evil's sake and trying to spread its influence. Examples of the first type are an assassin who has little regard for formal laws but does not needlessly kill, a henchman who plots behind their superior's back, or a mercenary who readily switches sides if made a better offer. An example of the second type would be a masked killer who strikes only for the sake of causing fear and distrust in the community. Examples of this alignment include many drow, some cloud giants, and yugoloths.[11][31]

I could see arguments made for all.

Donald is a conman, he will use the societys built in trust to scam and use others to take the fall.

He's not the type to do the dirty work himself.

Trump is absolutely, 100% not lawful. The system doing its best to protect him does not mean he himself is lawful.

Would it be accurate to say Trump is Neutral Evil while MAGA as a whole is Chaotic Evil?

Neutral evil.

He gives zero shits about anything that isn't him.

chaotic good before covid
chaotic evil during/after covid

Lmao at the Lawful Good, or really any "good" votes.

Like, for real, get yourself some professional psychiatric help, people.

Where is the "Chaotically Stupid" option?

Any man with many failed businesses and bankrupts as Trump who then thinks he should run for POTUS can only be classed as "Chaotically Stupid"!