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IdiotMachine
03/03/24 8:20:58 PM
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Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

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LeoRavus
03/03/24 8:22:57 PM
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Trying to make up for all that bomb money we keep giving Israel

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cjsdowg
03/04/24 10:07:33 AM
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No we should be able to fucking drive it in without our fucking allies blocking the food trucks with fucking fairs and bouncy houses. You do food drops in places you can't enter. And we can't enter because our " Allies" won't let us.

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mustachedmystic
03/04/24 10:09:06 AM
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Jesus literally said feed the poor, yet so many people that claim to follow him are upset that we are doing that.

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Zikten
03/04/24 10:14:09 AM
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The people blocking food trucks are so sick in the head
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Hornezz
03/04/24 10:30:58 AM
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2.2 million people in Gaza facing food shortages, with a quarter of them facing starvation.

Israel is intentionally starving people, either by disallowing aid trucks or by shooting them. There are videos of IDF soldiers mockingly setting food packets on fire. And the US so far does not believe this is a reason to withhold aid or weapon shipments to Israel.

"But hey, here is 1 meal for every 60 people to share. Why aren't you applauding this?"

It was a PR moment, not intended as a sustainable solution whatsoever.

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cjsdowg
03/04/24 10:39:46 AM
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mustachedmystic posted...
esus literally said feed the poor, yet so many people that claim to follow him are upset that we are doing that.

One food drops are not a good way to get food to people. Two our Allies are blocking us from getting food to people the normal way.

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mustachedmystic
03/04/24 12:27:59 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
One food drops are not a good way to get food to people. Two our Allies are blocking us from getting food to people the normal way.
So you are against it because it isnt the best way? As you said it is the only way right now.

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Teddytalks
03/04/24 12:29:45 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
So you are against it because it isnt the best way? As you said it is the only way right now.
The best way is too sanction the ally and stop providing support until the food cond in. You being Hella dishonest here.

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SaikyoStyle
03/04/24 12:29:52 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
No we should be able to fucking drive it in without our fucking allies blocking the food trucks with fucking fairs and bouncy houses. You do food drops in places you can't enter. And we can't enter because our " Allies" won't let us.
Is it that or is it that theyve so comprehensively destroyed the infrastructure of Gaza that its not even possible to drive the supplies in anymore? Because Ive heard both.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 12:36:09 PM
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Sure, the limited food drops totally make up for full-throated support of genocide...

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SaikyoStyle
03/04/24 12:37:54 PM
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I prefer to hear from actual leftists.

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Hornezz
03/04/24 12:41:07 PM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is it that or is it that theyve so comprehensively destroyed the infrastructure of Gaza that its not even possible to drive the supplies in anymore? Because Ive heard both.
It's because of deliberate blockades:

Human Rights Watch found in December 2023 that Israeli authorities are using starvation as a weapon of war. Pursuant a policy set out by Israeli officials and carried out by Israeli forces, the Israeli authorities are deliberately blocking the delivery of water, food, and fuel, willfully impeding humanitarian assistance, apparently razing agricultural areas, and depriving the civilian population of objects indispensable to its survival.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case

Plus there were protests by Israeli civilians who held dance parties to block food trucks from getting into Gaza:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/israeli-protesters-aid-gaza/

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Foppe
03/04/24 12:57:25 PM
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Hornezz posted...
There are videos of IDF soldiers mockingly setting food packets on fire
There are Israeli that made mocking videos when Israel turned off the water and electricity for Gaza.
https://youtu.be/jD7aqKklatU?si=7xzSCtDqfHWcYjFw

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Zikten
03/04/24 1:41:39 PM
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didn't those food packs get paid for by American taxes? Those Israelis are wasting American money. And the typical Americans who usually care about money waste, Republicans, are being silent on this
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ReiRei89
03/04/24 1:44:52 PM
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Food via air drop is better than no food at all but I guess the holier than thou users here would rather the Palestinians starve.

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Charged151
03/04/24 1:56:37 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
Food via air drop is better than no food at all but I guess the holier than thou users here would rather the Palestinians starve.

IdiotMachine posted...
Damned if you do, damned if you dont.


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Foppe
03/04/24 2:04:57 PM
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Just waiting for the Israeli Iron Dome to shoot down the air drops.

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ScazarMeltex
03/04/24 2:07:00 PM
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Hornezz posted...
It's because of deliberate blockades:

Human Rights Watch found in December 2023 that Israeli authorities are using starvation as a weapon of war. Pursuant a policy set out by Israeli officials and carried out by Israeli forces, the Israeli authorities are deliberately blocking the delivery of water, food, and fuel, willfully impeding humanitarian assistance, apparently razing agricultural areas, and depriving the civilian population of objects indispensable to its survival.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case

Plus there were protests by Israeli civilians who held dance parties to block food trucks from getting into Gaza:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/israeli-protesters-aid-gaza/
These are the things you do when engaged in ethnic cleansing. Which we could stop, right this moment, by saying "stop what you are doing or you never get another dollar's worth of aid from us". But we won't.

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cjsdowg
03/04/24 2:30:47 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
So you are against it because it isnt the best way? As you said it is the only way right now.

Its not the only way. Tell the ppl we give billions of dollars to stop being asshats

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cjsdowg
03/04/24 2:36:57 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
Food via air drop is better than no food at all but I guess the holier than thou users here would rather the Palestinians starve.

Ppl have literally explained the issue

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kingdrake2
03/04/24 3:01:50 PM
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Hornezz posted...
There are videos of IDF soldiers mockingly setting food packets on fire


if they're doing this to all the supply. it's really dumb to keep sending more food in when they're burning it all.

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Naysaspace
03/04/24 3:02:26 PM
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People are complaining about this? What armpit of the internet are you perusing!?!?

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Hornezz
03/04/24 3:08:00 PM
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kingdrake2
03/04/24 3:12:59 PM
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Naysaspace posted...
People are complaining about this? What armpit of the internet are you perusing!?!?


supreme leader (not kim, the other one).

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Zikten
03/04/24 3:19:27 PM
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Foppe posted...
Just waiting for the Israeli Iron Dome to shoot down the air drops.
Would that count as an act of war against the US?
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ReiRei89
03/04/24 3:30:40 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Ppl have literally explained the issue
America isn't going to cut funding to Israel. First off neither Biden nor Trump will cut funding to them, second off even if one of them would want to (Fat fuck would especially never because he needs evangelicals to support his ass) they would need Congress to agree. So the Palestinians either starve or you guys need to accept that air drops is how they're going to be getting food.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 3:32:31 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
America isn't going to cut funding to Israel. So the Palestinians either starve or you guys need to accept that air drops is how they're going to be getting food.
So you're okay with genocide?

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ReiRei89
03/04/24 3:33:46 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
So you're okay with genocide?
I'm realistic unlike you fucks who think bitching and crying is going to amount to something other than the Palestinians being killed even harder by a certain orange fuckface.

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BucketCat
03/04/24 3:33:54 PM
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they should take all of the money they give to Israel every year and give it to the people of Gaza instead.

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refmon
03/04/24 3:40:54 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
Trying to make up for all that bomb money we keep giving Israel


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Hornezz
03/04/24 3:42:44 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
unlike you fucks who think bitching and crying is going to amount to something
and what exactly is it you're doing in this topic?

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Teddytalks
03/04/24 3:53:46 PM
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Hornezz posted...
and what exactly is it you're doing in this topic?
Block him. He another pro genocide american that just wish the problem would go away. People like him would say the same about the jews in the 1930s.

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Foppe
03/04/24 3:56:03 PM
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Zikten posted...
Would that count as an act of war against the US?
USA didnt care when Israel attacked American military and killed American citizen, why would USA suddenly care?

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Doe
03/04/24 3:59:58 PM
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Does this even make up for the funding Gaza lost when US cut off its funding to UNRWA, after Israel sent a memo with no new evidence claiming its a giant terrorist organization, on the same day the ICJ ruled on their genocide case being plausible?

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LoZguy709
03/04/24 4:29:54 PM
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Oh God here we go again with the bullshit that understanding the political complexity of the Israel situation and how our government functions makes someone an advocate for genocide.

Get fucking real, people. Do you take pride in coming off like over-zealous dweebs that think they have the answers to these dilemmas that have existed since Israel became a country?

I'm glad there is some support going to Palestinians. It would obviously be better if the two sides could agree to a ceasefire, just like it would also be great if people quit denying climate change, stopped being bigots, and quit trying to hoard wealth, and all had the intention to work toward world peace.
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mario2000
03/04/24 4:31:40 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
Food via air drop is better than no food at all but I guess the holier than thou users here would rather the Palestinians starve.

I'd rather they didn't get genocided.

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Funkydog
03/04/24 4:34:24 PM
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Giving a days worth of food to last a year definitely makes up for aiding them being genocided.

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Doe
03/04/24 4:41:53 PM
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The thing is if youre caught up with the situation in Gaza then you know this is a very small band-aid on a gaping wound the US has complicity in. Again for example, does this even match the UNRWA funding the US stopped sending? Yes it is objectively good this aid is coming compared to it not coming. Thats not the sum situation though. And I doubt you can point to any serious poster who actually thinks it would be better in the universe where nothing changes except this aid not getting dropped.

You can talk up all the political complexity of Israel you want; the fact remains their invasion engineered this famine, theyre shooting at people going to aid trucks, and the United States vetoes actionable resolutions in the UN Security Council that would move to do something about it. Yes, it is okay to say the US still is not doing enough. Because its true!

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LoZguy709
03/04/24 4:47:51 PM
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Doe posted...
The thing is if youre caught up with the situation in Gaza then you know this is a very small band-aid on a gaping wound the US has complicity in. Again for example, does this even match the UNRWA funding the US stopped sending? Yes it is objectively good this aid is coming compared to it not coming. Thats not the sum situation though. And I doubt you can point to any serious poster who actually thinks it would be better in the universe where nothing changes except this aid not getting dropped.

You can talk up all the political complexity of Israel you want; the fact remains their invasion engineered this famine, theyre shooting at people going to aid trucks, and the United States vetoes actionable resolutions in the UN Security Council that would move to do something about it. Yes, it is okay to say the US still is not doing enough. Because its true!

I'm completely fine with the standpoint that the US should be doing more. I draw the line where people think it's the President's job to solve this crisis in a way that is satisfactory to Palestinians and the relative left in this country without tossing the election for his party in November. Advocate to bring awareness to American people, not to twist the arm of the executive branch and think they'll get the other branches to work with them in doing so.

I was mainly responding to the comment from Teddytalks, who just blocks everyone that disagrees with them and tells everyone they're pro-genocide. What fucking divisive trashy bullshit to spread.
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Hornezz
03/04/24 4:56:28 PM
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Also in the news today

As Gaza's hunger crisis worsens, emaciated children seen at hospitals

Two Palestinian toddlers with sunken eyes and emaciated faces, one in a yellow cardigan and the other in a stripy top, were lying side by side on a bed in a Gaza clinic, their thin, bony legs protruding from diapers that looked too big for them.
This was the scene on Monday at Al-Awda health centre in Rafah, southern Gaza, where nurse Diaa Al-Shaer said children suffering from malnutrition and from a range of diseases were arriving in unprecedented numbers.

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Gaza's Health Ministry said on Sunday that 15 children had died of malnutrition or dehydration at Kamal Adwan hospital in Beit Lahiya, northern Gaza, the part of the enclave where the lack of food is most extreme. "The unofficial numbers can unfortunately be expected to be higher," said World Health Organization spokesperson Christian Lindmeier.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gazas-hunger-crisis-worsens-emaciated-children-seen-hospitals-2024-03-04/

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 5:18:20 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
Oh God here we go again with the bullshit that understanding the political complexity of the Israel situation and how our government functions makes someone an advocate for genocide.

Get fucking real, people. Do you take pride in coming off like over-zealous dweebs that think they have the answers to these dilemmas that have existed since Israel became a country?

I'm glad there is some support going to Palestinians. It would obviously be better if the two sides could agree to a ceasefire, just like it would also be great if people quit denying climate change, stopped being bigots, and quit trying to hoard wealth, and all had the intention to work toward world peace.
Oh God here we go again with the bullshit that genocide that be excused by claiming the situation is "complicated". It's made complicated on purpose to get people like you to throw your hands up and just accept the situation as is.

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LoZguy709
03/04/24 5:24:27 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Oh God here we go again with the bullshit that genocide that be excused by claiming the situation is "complicated". It's made complicated on purpose to get people like you to throw your hands up and just accept the situation as is.

If you read all the comments I posted, you'll realize I'm not saying we have to throw our hands up and do nothing. I just think that users like you and Teddytalks do more to fuck over the obviously preferential political party in this country being able to carry through the next election than you do anything constructive for Palestinians.
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Zikten
03/04/24 5:25:51 PM
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The situation in Gaza is very simple. Israel is mass murdering innocent people. And someday there will be an accounting for it. Israel is going to regret this war
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DrizztLink
03/04/24 5:36:23 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
If you read all the comments I posted, you'll realize I'm not saying we have to throw our hands up and do nothing. I just think that users like you and Teddytalks do more to fuck over the obviously preferential political party in this country being able to carry through the next election than you do anything constructive for Palestinians.
They don't give a fuck about Palestine or Palestinians.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 5:39:42 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
If you read all the comments I posted, you'll realize I'm not saying we have to throw our hands up and do nothing. I just think that users like you and Teddytalks do more to fuck over the obviously preferential political party in this country being able to carry through the next election than you do anything constructive for Palestinians.
No, the preferential political party shoots themselves in the foot constantly, with the latest blunder being full-throated support of genocide, but you're more angry with people who are against genocide than you are about genocide.

DrizztLink posted...
They don't give a fuck about Palestine or Palestinians.
Nice projection. Are you sure you aren't a republican?

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Vyrulisse
03/04/24 5:39:47 PM
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Foppe posted...
There are Israeli that made mocking videos when Israel turned off the water and electricity for Gaza.
https://youtu.be/jD7aqKklatU?si=7xzSCtDqfHWcYjFw
This is unhinged sick shit.

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LoZguy709
03/04/24 5:47:37 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
No, the preferential political party shoots themselves in the foot constantly, with the latest blunder being full-throated support of genocide, but you're more angry with people who are against genocide than you are about genocide.

I'm angry at the misguided people seeming to want to diminish the party's hopes of winning by demanding something that would lose support of the majority swing voters. Then demanding we not support the party if they don't do what's majorly politically unfavorable. You are the people that serve as the gun/bullet shooting the foot.

Nice projection. Are you sure you aren't a republican?

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 5:51:36 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
I'm angry at the misguided people seeming to want to diminish the party's hopes of winning by demanding something that would lose support of the majority swing voters. Then demanding we not support the party if they don't do what's majorly politically unfavorable. You are the people that serve as the gun/bullet shooting the foot.

"HAHA I know you are but what am I?"
I understand. Genocide doesn't matter if it's an inconvenience to """""""""""democracy""""""""""". The mask-off support for genocide shows me that many of the same people who fancy themselves having been outspoken about the Holocaust are actually among those who would have absolutely not given a shit had they actually been around back then.

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LoZguy709
03/04/24 5:53:57 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I understand. Genocide doesn't matter if it's an inconvenience to """""""""""democracy""""""""""". The mask-off support for genocide shows me that many of the same people who fancy themselves having been outspoken about the Holocaust are actually among those who have absolutely not given a shit had they actually been around back then.

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