Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 10: Can Love Bloom on a Battlefield?

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Topic 1 / Rules: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80705866

Player list:
1. Mzero
2. Lopen
3. Chaeix (JC)
4. Isquen
5. FD
6. Ulti
7. Dumey
8. Corrik
9. Sultan
10. Kirby
11. Sir Chris

Based on Kirby's post in topic 9 (which were proven correct)

Paired
Chris and FD
MZero and Isquen
Sultan and Ulti
Lopen and JC

Exes
Kirby and Sir Chris
Sultan and Lopen
Ulti and MZero
MZero and Kirby
JC and Lopen

Open Offers
Dumey: JC, Corrik, Chris
Corrik: Kirby

Unpaired
Corrik
Kirby
Dumey

Day ends today at 7pm Eastern.

bless u death

Corrik7 posted...

Prosty is pointless with two scum left.

I mean yes, but that wasn't Kirby's reasoning. It would make sense if that were his reasoning >_>

Eh

More this goes on its probably Dumey x Kirby.

Dumey not being at all concerned that Kirby is scum right now and still calling him 95% town is unnerving a bit

There is no town thought process that makes sense here for Kirby

Lopen who are you paired with?

Hero play for Corrik well done town

I'm still flawless on Ulti whispering despite his best efforts to okay the game as scummy as he can

JC and I'm not updating him

Oh.

Well thanks Corrik

EDumey posted...

My opinion hasn't changed that much from before. I think Kirby is probably like 95% town. But admittedly, Kirby has TWO end of day scenario's pointing against him.

D1. I know I'm town and Peaf left my date to hang himself up. Could have been a solo play by Peaf, or an attempt to save Kirby.
D2. I know I'm town and Ulti gave his life to me, and urged me to dump him to save Red, before Kirby took the Red date. There was a chance Kirby gets killed there. I talked about this with Lopen earlier, and I think there is a universe where exactly Ulti + Kirby explains motivation here. Otherwise Ulti is town.

So basically I think scum is exactly Ulti + Kirby, or both are probably town.

Corrik7 posted...

Is there any scenario where a town Kirby wouldn't do exactly the same?

I'm not sure I understand your question. Yeah, Town Kirby could have acted the same in both situations. Just explained by FAFO Peaf and Town Ulti.

I guess my argument is that in MY head, lynching Kirby kind of clears Ulti in my mind, so we can focus on the rest of the PoE. But other people may not agree that Ulti's EoD2 play requires a scum Kirby there.

Lopen and JC and Chris and FD break up. Lopen Kirby and edumey die. Fd pairs with me. Chris with JC.

How about that.

Declined

You can take your vow of silence with your soul read.

So your vow of silence is nonsense. Okay.

##date: Kirby

Lopen posted...

Eh

More this goes on its probably Dumey x Kirby.

Dumey not being at all concerned that Kirby is scum right now and still calling him 95% town is unnerving a bit

There is no town thought process that makes sense here for Kirby

If it were up to me, Kirby wouldn't be the one on the table right now. It would be Sultan. But I don't get my way this game, clearly.

Ok fine

If JC and Chris and FD will do it I'll do it

And then when Dumey and Kirby pair I need town's approval to let mzero bomb them

##breakup: Kirby

chances scum are paired right now and don't want 3 deaths right now because then they can't pair at 7.

As a reminder, the following pairings are not allowed today:

Room 1 - FD and MZero
Room 2 - Sultan and Sir Chris
Room 3 - Ulti and Dumey
Room 4 - Lopen and Isquen
Room 5 - JC and Corrik
Room 6 - Red and Kirby

Well doesn't that just garentee Lopen dies though corrik.

Corrik7 posted...

Lopen and JC and Chris and FD break up. Lopen Kirby and edumey die. Fd pairs with me. Chris with JC.

How about that.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well doesn't that just garentee Lopen dies though corrik.

You're acting like that's a problem

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

As a reminder, the following pairings are not allowed today:

Room 1 - FD and MZero
Room 2 - Sultan and Sir Chris
Room 3 - Ulti and Dumey
Room 4 - Lopen and Isquen
Room 5 - JC and Corrik
Room 6 - Red and Kirby

Well doesn't that just garentee Lopen dies though corrik.

If Kirby or edumey are town and both willing to sacrifice to clear poe. They all 3 die. If anyone last second saves the other then I mean... that's info in itself.

If I die alone you kill Dumey and Kirby with Mzero and make a glorious finish

I know it's bad play, but I will support a meme kill if having more control of the deaths helps us solve in the future.

I need Kirby and Dumey to vow not to pair too

Less rooms for me to scan also when I die and have no info to show for it lol.

Kirby321 posted...

You're acting like that's a problem

And if Lopen flips town?

##breakup: lopen

just giving you the option while i make my popcorn what is even happening

I will breakup if and only if

Dumey agrees to not date anyone
Kirby agrees to not date anyone
Corrik agrees to date FD and vice versa
Chris agrees to date JC and vice versa

And I will not date anyone

Honestly, let me die and then scrutinize everybody trying to keep Lopen alive. It's clear that if he's not scum, then scum is trying to keep him around so that he constantly disorients and distracts town.

Like, seriously, I don't think it's coincidence that my town reads are also the only ones actively voicing disagreement with Lopen. Someone among his sheep is scum, maybe both scum are in there.

I'll just stop talking now.... JC unvoted....

I'm down for it. Just have to remember that if we hit all 3 town here, you guys have to randomly shoot into MZero/Isquen basically and pray that you're right.

Don't let scum try and train Ulti once all three of us are gone. I will give Ulti my 100% town clear if all three of Me/Kirby/Lopen are town.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

And if Lopen flips town?

Don't care

He would've ran out of posts a long time ago if there was a post limit

Probably just kill mzero regardless if you don't take 3 today. His time zone can't possibly help town.

I give Isquen my 100% town clear

If we're all town then it's Sultan and Mzero

Triple kill is stupid
Stop being stubborn and trying to outwit the game mechanics

Kirby321 posted...

Triple kill is stupid
Stop being stubborn and trying to outwit the game mechanics

Why is it stupid

Lopen is scum right?

I mean definitely he should prefer this plan to just dying

Kirby321 posted...

Triple kill is stupid
Stop being stubborn and trying to outwit the game mechanics

okay but also consider what about having fun?

i remember one of the earlier games I played here was Ulti Super Smash Bros mafia and I helped support an Atomic Bomb play that went terribly. Still remember it to this day because of fun. :P

Unless it's Dumey and Kirby of course lol

Lopen posted...

I mean definitely he should prefer this plan to just dying

qft

Too many people have just wanted to die this game to the detriment of things. Edumey Kirby scum team is starting to look stronger tbqh due to it. Ironically.

Corrik7 posted...

Why is it stupid

If all three people involved are town, we lose two days of lynches.

Scum would never agree to it. You can only force scum into that position by making sure they're in the final three with the person they partnered up with the night before.

Trying to get town to coordinate something like that will be damn near impossible. Just look at everybody who keeps pairing up with Ulti, Sultan, and Isquen despite everybody else telling them to stop.

Kirby321 posted...

If all three people involved are town, we lose two days of lynches.

Scum would never agree to it. You can only force scum into that position by making sure they're in the final three with the person they partnered up with the night before.

Trying to get town to coordinate something like that will be damn near impossible. Just look at everybody who keeps pairing up with Ulti, Sultan, and Isquen despite everybody else telling them to stop.

Why would you agree to die if you are town then? You cost a mislynch. You cannot possibly know dumey is more town than you.

Corrik7 posted...

Why would you agree to die if you are town then? You cost a mislynch. You cannot possibly know dumey is more town than you.

Because I'm tired of Lopen, Corrik. That's the simple truth of it.

I just want to talk to people who are calm, reasonable, and not obnoxious, but three of them are in DTC.

Like, maybe Dumey is scum. If he is, cool. If not, then I basically won't be able to contribute meaningfully at all because Lopen is at my ankles like a rabid hound. There's no point in me being alive if we need to advance the game state.

Hmm look at the 1 not wanting to do this
Dumey and Lopen are game. Kirby isn't.

Town town scum?

I actually think even if we are all town logic is this is a better idea

Like

I'm definitely dead if Kirby is town at this point

You save town a sure mislynch

Kirby321 posted...

Because I'm tired of Lopen, Corrik. That's the simple truth of it.

I just want to talk to people who are calm, reasonable, and not obnoxious, but three of them are in DTC.

Like, maybe Dumey is scum. If he is, cool. If not, then I basically won't be able to contribute meaningfully at all because Lopen is at my ankles like a rabid hound. There's no point in me being alive if we need to advance the game state.

so the triple kill is your way to actually be a martyr and take lopen out, why isn't that a good thing

Triple kill is probably dumb when we can just kill kirby

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hmm look at the 1 not wanting to do this
Dumey and Lopen are game. Kirby isn't.

Town town scum?

Yes

The better option is to just lynch Kirby but I'm willing to bomb for glory

Actually nah

Its Kirby Dumey.

Final answer. Ulti is town

Chaeix posted...

so the triple kill is your way to actually be a martyr and take lopen out, why isn't that a good thing

Because I'm not cocky enough to think Lopen is guaranteed scum. He's just annoying, and that's probably marring whatever kind of read I can make on him.

Everybody has been saying that scum is likely in the people who keep pairing up early. So stop wasting your efforts on pointless triple kills unless you get those guys into the PoE.