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refmon 03/07/24 4:22:31 PM #1: |
https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1765769653563924664?s=20
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Doe 03/07/24 4:23:23 PM #3: |
Why this hill to die on
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Axiom 03/07/24 4:23:56 PM #4: |
Heroes cant go around killing people otherwise its hard to justify why all their villains are still around ... Copied to Clipboard!
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evilpresident 03/07/24 4:24:32 PM #5: |
Batsy has been around for a while now and hasn't killed... much... since his debut. So I think he'll be fine.
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uwnim 03/07/24 4:25:47 PM #6: |
I dont see why hed even want to. He likes having his villains around.
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PeteyParker 03/07/24 4:25:53 PM #7: |
I saw people on Instagram saying it was "out of context" but when you ask them for the context they say to watch the Joe Rogan episode to find out. No thanks. From the actual article his argument isn't that Batman should go around killing everyone but that it's disingenuous to say he can't be in any situation that would result in him having to kill someone.
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MarcyWarcy 03/07/24 4:27:27 PM #8: |
bro has never made a good movie
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argonautweakend 03/07/24 4:28:28 PM #9: |
I can't claim to know much of Batman lore, but I've always felt like it's funny that Batman could kill Joker but he doesn't. It's like "hey Fred, yeah 6:00 PM next Tuesday works for you? cool!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 03/07/24 4:29:09 PM #10: |
Can Synder just leave Hollywood forever
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Punished_Blinx 03/07/24 4:44:03 PM #11: |
The only relevant thing people will remember about his live action Batman is a single action scene and him screaming Martha. Outside of that his interpretation and adaptation of the character is completely irrelevant and not worth remembering or talking about.
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PballDepot 03/07/24 4:47:17 PM #12: |
Nolan had no problem making some incredible Batman movies with the no kill philosophy
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DrizztLink 03/07/24 4:47:54 PM #13: |
Zak, shut the fuck up and become a landscape painter like you actually want.
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Hayame_Zero 03/07/24 4:49:04 PM #14: |
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DrizztLink 03/07/24 4:50:20 PM #16: |
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And if they do, it's for the one that shitcanned Zak for James "I Basically Am the MCU" Gunn. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybabe89 03/07/24 4:56:03 PM #17: |
Zack Snyder has never understood the material he adapts, and fanboys will still tell us he "fixed" the Justice League movie.
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Smashingpmkns 03/07/24 5:01:57 PM #18: |
If Batman kills in the Snyder universe why tf is Joker still alive? Lol
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Block_that_Kick 03/07/24 5:06:17 PM #19: |
argonautweakend posted...
I can't claim to know much of Batman lore, but I've always felt like it's funny that Batman could kill Joker but he doesn't. And the Joker taunts Batman about that all the time and regularly dares Batman to kill him. --- The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DisgracefulSins 03/07/24 5:10:00 PM #21: |
MarcyWarcy posted...
bro has never made a good movieUhhh...? Dawn of the Dead 300 Watchmen Man of Steel Army of the Dead --- If you want something done right, do it yourself. So note to self: Do more myself. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mercurydude 03/07/24 5:10:43 PM #22: |
I don't think the DCAU Batman ever killed anybody, unless it was like a magical creature or something. If people like old school, 1930's neck snapping Batman or Frank Miller's violent version, that's fine, but it's stupid to say Batman's irrelevant if he isn't that.
Also, he never struck me as someone who really *gets* Batman. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xGhostchantx 03/07/24 5:15:00 PM #23: |
Well there's no reason Batman can't kill (and has killed so many people across various iterations anyway, accidental, collateral, and intentional) but it shouldn't be his focus.
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creativerealms 03/07/24 5:19:24 PM #24: |
Killing in comics is pointless. In comics death is meaningless. Killing his villains wouldn't get rid of them.
Batman having a personal moral code makes him more of a hero not less of one. Sorry but I don't buy the bullshit that every death caused by the Joker is blood on Batman's hands. Because Joker has been killed in the comics. Death doesn't stop any of them. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 03/07/24 5:20:42 PM #25: |
creativerealms posted...
In comics death is meaningless.Unless you're Bucky*, Jason Todd**, or Uncle Ben***. *: not anymore **: not anymore ***: not anymore --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 03/07/24 5:23:21 PM #26: |
"Batman can't kill is canon. And I'm like, 'okay, the first thing I wanna do when you say that is I wanna see what happens'. And they go, 'well don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone'. Why does he think people view Superman and Batman as Gods anyway. Like yes they're mythological but it's escapism. Relatable and human superhero stories are much more popular than the interpretation that they're a level above us. His DCEU movies being a perfect example. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 03/07/24 5:24:26 PM #27: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Why does he think people view Superman and Batman as Gods anyway.He doesn't understand the characters. I seriously believe the only comics he read are Frank Miller's comics. And Watchmen. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 03/07/24 5:26:07 PM #29: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
"Elmo can't kill is canon. And I'm like, 'okay, the first thing I wanna do when you say that is I wanna see what happens'. And they go, 'well don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone'. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 03/07/24 5:29:39 PM #31: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Why does he think people view Superman and Batman as Gods anyway.It's because he fundamentally doesn't understand the characters. Snyder is a Randian Objectivist, and Objectivists reject altruism: they don't believe in it because they don't accept that someone could do something purely out of the goodness of their heart with no ulterior motive. Remember Bruce and Bary's conversation in Justice League? "So what's your superpower?" "I'm rich." That wasn't a joke. That was a window into how he sees things. Snyder is a poor choice to do anything with Superman because Superman is possibly the ultimate altruistic character in comics: he's a guy with the power of, for all intents and purposes, a god, yet he refuses to use that power in selfish ways and tries as hard as he can to help the most people, never asking anything in return. Similarly, Bruce is also altruistic, though in a darker way: as was said in Kingdom Come, when you strip everything else away from the Batman, you're left with someone who doesn't want to see anyone else die. That is the reason he refuses to kill. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 03/07/24 5:30:25 PM #32: |
Doesn't Batman kill parademons?
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Kim_Seong-a 03/07/24 5:33:36 PM #33: |
Before we force Batman to kill someone, we should be creating a Batman whose characterized well enough that we care if he does.
As it stands, "killing bad" is just corporate-mandated morality with no thought behind it. It's possible to make an aversion to killing an interesting character trait. DC has failed every time they tried. --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamespoht 03/07/24 5:47:29 PM #34: |
Bruce taking a life would make him just as guilty as the criminals he hunts, but some would argue that crippling dudes or getting them locked up isn't that much better as it can produce a endless cycle of crime and vigilance.
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Glob 03/07/24 5:54:09 PM #35: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I think TDKR was the first Batman film in which he didnt kill anybody. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alfred_ashford 03/07/24 5:56:17 PM #36: |
At this point Im wondering if this is his defense mechanism against his daughter's suicide? Cuz this is dave chappelle talking about lgbT levels of onsession with yesterdays news.
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/07/24 5:58:55 PM #37: |
The thing about Batman is that despite being a vigilante, he still believes in a traditional sense of law and order, where everyone has not only the right to a fair trial, but a chance to redeem themselves. Even though he works outside of the law, he also respects its basic principles, that being that no one man gets to be judge, jury and executioner.
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/07/24 6:00:20 PM #38: |
Glob posted...
I think TDKR was the first Batman film in which he didnt kill anybody. He killed I believe The Batman is the first movie where he actually avoided killing anybody, even indirectly. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antiyonder 03/07/24 6:01:06 PM #39: |
Kim_Seong-a posted...
As it stands, "killing bad" is just corporate-mandated morality with no thought behind it. Not always. Sometimes it's about keeping a popular villain around and the only other alternative is a hero who is willing to kill, but is ineffectual at it. Kind of like Snyder's Batman who never did bump off his Joker. --- Amalgam Universe resident Born in 82. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamespoht 03/07/24 6:06:46 PM #40: |
alfred_ashford posted...
At this point Im wondering if this is his defense mechanism against his daughter's suicide? Cuz this is dave chappelle talking about lgbT levels of onsession with yesterdays news.Nah he was always on some edgy shit, like his infamous quote about directing a Batman movie where Bruce gets graped in prison because that's super dark and realistic --- ''No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me''-Sonic The Hedgehog I am Gamespot's Unofficial Mascot....Love Me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/07/24 6:14:03 PM #41: |
Gamespoht posted...
Nah he was always on some edgy shit, like his infamous quote about directing a Batman movie where Bruce gets graped in prison because that's super dark and realistic Or the quote where he said Watchmen was one of his favorite stories because it had violence and sex in it. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 03/07/24 6:28:01 PM #42: |
hockeybabe89 posted...
Zack Snyder has never understood the material he adapts, and fanboys will still tell us he "fixed" the Justice League movie. This. How can you be a fan of DC charecters and endorse what zack has done to them in his films. It's actually sad people want more of his material especially after spouting this garbage. --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 03/07/24 6:35:48 PM #43: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... He killedYoure right. I had forgotten that. I try to forget as much about that film as possible. I believe The Batman is the first movie where he actually avoided killing anybody, even indirectly. Yeah, I cant think of anybody in that who he kills. Though, once again, I try to forget that film. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Westernwolf4 03/07/24 6:37:12 PM #44: |
Batman has had a no kill rule for decades. The franchise seems pretty relevant to me.
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RetuenOfDevsman 03/07/24 6:39:30 PM #45: |
Zack Snyder was the best possible pick for Watchmen. Then for some reason he got to direct a Superman movie and the whole superhero genre died with a single film. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gray_Areas 03/07/24 6:42:26 PM #46: |
PballDepot posted... Nolan had no problem making some incredible Batman movies with the no kill philosophyBatman definitely killed people in those movies. Or at the very least, he explicitly caused damage that directly resulted in several deaths and went out of his way to let people die when he could have otherwise saved them. They make a big deal about Batman causing Dent's death at the end of The Dark Knight, but he also intentionally exploded the League of Shadows' hideout which we know killed people and sabotaged the train (with Gordon's help destroying the railway) which directly led to Ra's al Ghul's deathan act that Batman knows will result in Ra's al Ghul's death and has the opportunity to save him but actively choses not to in Batman Begins and shot Talia Al Ghul's car leading to her and her driver crashing and dying in The Dark Knight Rises. That's not to mention all of the other random goons he definitely maims or mortally wounds in each movie. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 03/07/24 6:46:31 PM #47: |
Synder is probably the biggest fraud director to ever grace Hollywood. He didnt know, understand or even like these characters. Thought he would succeed by speed reading a few popular storys and ended up tanking the DCUE entirely due to his ego.
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PballDepot 03/07/24 6:47:18 PM #48: |
Gray_Areas posted...
Batman definitely killed people in those movies. Yes, Nolan did a great job showing that even with a no kill philosophy that death is sometimes unavoidable. Still doesn't make Batman the killer that ZS wants. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVhRWBGOZ0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 03/07/24 7:00:19 PM #49: |
apocalyptic_4 posted...
This. I find that there's a lot of "DC fans" who are really only DC fans because of the "dark and gritty" movies like The Dark Knight. They're usually the same people who say Superman is boring. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 03/07/24 7:06:26 PM #50: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I find that there's a lot of "DC fans" who are really only DC fans because of the "dark and gritty" movies like The Dark Knight. The funny thing is that TDK has a lot of charm, humor and heart. Which is something the DCEU didn't manage to even try to bother trying to have. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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