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Zwijn posted...

cherrypicking a single meme image

Nah she was thicc in lots of scenes just not every scene.

WingsOfGood posted...

Wasn't just one scene.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8111aec2.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da671213.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/907025a9.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8fa9f759.jpg

WingsOfGood posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b2067e7.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0ffe03fb.jpg

But users pointed out maybe the new show she has a big butt in other scenes.

This topic really glossed over the whole OnlyFans part of the story

i cant even tell why youre using half of those images, and precisely fuck all of them look the apocalypse frame

Dungeater posted...

i cant even tell why youre using half of those images, and precisely fuck all of them look the apocalypse frame

This. I think WingsofGood is confusing that "having an ass crack drawn" means that it's a "thicc" ass. If you think that's thicc... Not sure you're ready for real thicc

And this is such a stupid argument. It's not censorship.

Dungeater posted...

i cant even tell why youre using half of those images, and precisely fuck all of them look the apocalypse frame

Compare not to the apocalypse frame but to that image people shared in the new show. There is a canyon of difference. 2 curvy canyons infact

WingsOfGood posted...

Nah she was thicc in lots of scenes just not every scene.

But users pointed out maybe the new show she has a big butt in other scenes.

Like maybe one of those is "thicc," and none anywhere near the size of the meme pic.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/907025a9.jpg
Hell, it's practically flat, there.

I'm very confused.

WingsOfGood posted...

did he choose to censor Rogue's butt?

Her butt looks the same way it does in the original cartoon except for literally one scene that became a meme. There is no censoring. You people are delusional.

WingsOfGood posted...

Compare not to the apocalypse frame but to that image people shared in the new show. There is a canyon of difference. 2 curvy canyons infact

wasnt that pulled from like a 1 minute trailer

why would i compare them

also u posted at least one flat image off the top of my head

why are u like this

AlCalavicci posted...

This. I think WingsofGood is confusing that "having an ass crack drawn" means that it's a "thicc" ass. If you think that's thicc... Not sure you're ready for real thicc

And this is such a stupid argument. It's not censorship.

The new one has a drawn crack. I am comparing the cheeks.

But anyways as I said maybe that is not the norm for new show.

Why don't more people have Wings on block at this point

Not just over the ass thing but over the... well, being an ass thing

TMOG posted...

Why don't more people have Wings on block at this point

Not just over the ass thing but over the... well, being an ass thing

People could also not be semantics nannies.

Did he censor the butt? No.

Done.

WingsOfGood posted...

so 4kids removing guns out of yugioh and changing death to the shadow realm is not censoring?

No its not censorship. It was localization based on executive decisions and market/demographic research. Not the government threatening citizens with imprisonment or worse

ProfOaksAide posted...

No its not censorship. It was localization based on executive decisions and market/demographic research. Not the government threatening citizens with imprisonment or worse

Amazing that people never even lookup definitions so they never know them and try to correct other people

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient". Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/what-censorship

If you thought it had to be the government then you are now corrected on your misunderstanding.

As such a controlling body being the company 4kids was 100% censoring

WingsOfGood posted...

"we think this is too much for kids so we will change it"

that is what censor means

It actually doesn't mean that.....

Cartoon titties and ass being not horny enough for you doesn't mean something was censored, and simply wasn't created in the vision the creator wanted it to be.

This "censorship" hysteria is almost as bad as the "woke" hysteria. Funnily enough there's a small overlap of the 2 hysterias when it comes to cartoon/video game woman not being horny enough for certain types of people.

LightningThief posted...

It actually doesn't mean that.....

Cartoon titties and ass being not horny enough for you doesn't mean something was censored, and simply wasn't created in the vision the creator wanted it to be.

This "censorship" hysteria is almost as bad as the "woke" hysteria. Funnily enough there's a small overlap of the 2 hysterias when it comes to cartoon/video game woman not being horny enough for certain types of people.

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient". Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies.

If they looked at it and said:such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient" and therefore they changed it then it is infact censorship.

Fyi the vision of the creator on this is just to mimic the original series

WingsOfGood posted...

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient". Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and other controlling bodies.

If they looked at it and said:such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient" and therefore they changed it then it is infact censorship.

Fyi the vision of the creator on this is just to mimic the original series

Mimic the original series, yes. Which is exactly what theyre doing. Because as has been proven multiple times, her butt looked the same in the original. What a stupid fucking hill to die on.

Zonbei posted...

What a stupid fucking hill to die on.

Wouldn't be Wings otherwise

Zonbei posted...

Mimic the original series, yes. Which is exactly what theyre doing. Because as has been proven multiple times, her butt looked the same in the original. What a stupid fucking hill to die on.

I showed you 6 pictures and you still continue to be disingenuous.

anyone reasonable can see the difference:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c28004a4.jpg

Which brings us back to why certain people claim there is ONLY 1 scene in the old tas she had a big butt? Now.... why would they ever make stuff up like that? Makes you think.

edit:
bonus 7th image

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a9bc7253.jpg

also Jean

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4d542ad8.jpg

WingsOfGood posted...

I showed you 6 pictures and you still continue to be disingenuous.

anyone reasonable can see the difference:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c28004a4.jpg

Which brings us back to why certain people claim there is ONLY 1 scene in the old tas she had a big butt? Now.... why would they ever make stuff up like that? Makes you think.

edit:
bonus 7th image

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a9bc7253.jpg

also Jean

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4d542ad8.jpg

you have got to be joking. Thats not a big butt lmao. And the difference is negligible. The picture from the new series is a wide shot where shes in the background. You can easily find numerous shots like that in the original. Heres some now!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e90cb0af.jpg

Especially note the top right, you fucking nerd.

If you're in here analyzing multiple frames of an animated character's ass, please step back and take a look at your life

Zonbei posted...

you have got to be joking. Thats not a big butt lmao. And the difference is negligible. The picture from the new series is a wide shot where shes in the background. You can easily find numerous shots like that in the original. Heres some now!

so you believe in other scenes in the new show she will have a bigger butt?

ok?
that is... not your original argument that claimed only the apocalypse scene she had a big butt.

I guess we made some progress here then and you realized your original stance was flimsy.

Now, to be clear again. Not all censorship is bad. Censorship can be good.

If they chose to change her because they felt it wasn't good for kids, then fine, that is their choice. The whole thing is people are denying it is censorship of the original design and vision. Whether changing it is good or bad is not what we are even discussing just that it happened.

But as stated already, if this is just a wide scene where the artist just did it quick, good.

C_Pain posted...

If you're in here analyzing multiple frames of an animated character's ass, please step back and take a look at your life

Yeah some people really need to touch grass on this board.

C_Pain posted...

If you're in here analyzing multiple frames of an animated character's ass, please step back and take a look at your life

Prestoff posted...

Yeah some people really need to touch grass on this board.

So what did you guys do today such that you judge me for analyzing an argument someone made and testing whether it was true.
Fyi a user claimed the apocalypse scene was a single meme scene and all throughout the TAS her butt is flat. This was proven wrong. No need for anyone to be upset about that and just accept the truth.

WingsOfGood posted...

So what did you guys do today such that you judge me for analyzing an argument someone made and testing whether it was true.
Fyi a user claimed the apocalypse scene was a single meme scene and all throughout the TAS her butt is flat. This was proven wrong. No need for anyone to be upset about that and just accept the truth.

We did not do that, which automatically makes us less fuckin' cringey.

WingsOfGood posted...

So what did you guys do today such that you judge me for analyzing an argument someone made and testing whether it was true.
Fyi a user claimed the apocalypse scene was a single meme scene and all throughout the TAS her butt is flat. This was proven wrong. No need for anyone to be upset about that and just accept the truth.

I enjoyed a nice day riding bikes with my girlfriend and now I'm going to get ice cream.

C_Pain posted...

If you're in here analyzing multiple frames of an animated character's ass, please step back and take a look at your life

In fairness I stole those images from some other persons post, I aint got time for that shit

WingsOfGood posted...

so you believe in other scenes in the new show she will have a bigger butt?

ok?
that is... not your original argument that claimed only the apocalypse scene she had a big butt.

I guess we made some progress here then and you realized your original stance was flimsy.

Now, to be clear again. Not all censorship is bad. Censorship can be good.

If they chose to change her because they felt it wasn't good for kids, then fine, that is their choice. The whole thing is people are denying it is censorship of the original design and vision. Whether changing it is good or bad is not what we are even discussing just that it happened.

But as stated already, if this is just a wide scene where the artist just did it quick, good.

No, I believe she almost never had a big butt in the original show and youre fucking weird for obsessing over it. Nice try though.

Zonbei posted...

No, I believe she almost never had a big butt in the original show and youre fucking weird for obsessing over it. Nice try though.

Zonbei posted...

The picture from the new series is a wide shot where shes in the background. You can easily find numerous shots like that in the original. Heres some now!

You can't do both at the same time. Either the image I gave is not different or it happens to be a wide shot.

smh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a9bc7253.jpg

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold on. Im making bad choices in my life and wasting my time because I like arguing with stupid people on the internet, not because I specifically care about analyzing butts in a cartoon show. Lets be accurate here. Smdh

So did anyone figure out why he was fired or is this topic just about Rogue's butt?

WingsOfGood posted...

You can't do both at the same time. Either the image I gave is not different or it happens to be a wide shot.

smh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a9bc7253.jpg

bud I cant even fathom what youre trying to say here. The difference there is almost nonexistent, and thats even with the new one being a wide shot. Stop obsessing.

ssjevot posted...

So did anyone figure out why he was fired or is this topic just about Rogue's butt?

article states no reason given so we don't know, basically not much to talk about

WingsOfGood posted...

Amazing that people never even lookup definitions so they never know them and try to correct other people

https://www.aclu.org/documents/what-censorship

If you thought it had to be the government then you are now corrected on your misunderstanding.

As such a controlling body being the company 4kids was 100% censoring

You cant self censor. X-Men is Disneys property. If they want dont want THEIR characters to have fat juicy asses then that is their right. It is not censorship for them to tell THEIR employees to tone down the juiciness of super hero ass cheeks.

If Joe Biden said listen here Jack, I dont want to catch my grand son alone with Rogues bouncing watermelons again. Cut it out or its straight to Gitmo, that would be censorship

ProfOaksAide posted...

You cant self censor

about that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-censorship

Self-censorship is the act of censoring or classifying one's own discourse. This is done out of fear of, or deference to, the sensibilities or preferences (actual or perceived) of others and without overt pressure from any specific party or institution of authority. Self-censorship is often practiced by film producers, film directors, publishers, news anchors, journalists, musicians, and other kinds of authors including individuals who use social media.
Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights guarantees freedom of speech from all forms of censorship. Article 19 explicitly states that "everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."[1]
The practice of self-censorship, like that of censorship itself, has a long history

https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/self-censorship/43569

What Is Self-Censorship? How Does It Kill Media Freedom?
Have you ever censored your own thoughts? When it happens on a large scale, it can be a threat to society. Here's everything you ever wanted to know about self-censorship.

Self-censorship is when someone, most often a journalist or media outlet, censors their own speech or expression. They choose not to say something perhaps not to report a story on the government or give an opinion on a new law that could be important for the public, either because of its factual nature or because it would contribute to a robust public debate on the issue.
Self-censorship is considered to be a voluntary act, but it is often done out of fear or pressure.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-censorship

She self-censors her language around the children.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/10/self-censorship-is-the-enemy-of-creativity/

The more immediate threat to artistic expression, comedic or otherwise, takes the form of self-censorship. This is not the same as refining our speech or choosing our battles. Dont we all self-censor for perfectly good reasons of tact, politeness, and taste?, asked the New Yorkers Bob Mankoff of Flemming Rose, the editor who was responsible for the publication of the Danish cartoons of Muhammad in 2005. Yes, Rose replied, but there is a difference to be made between tact, politeness, and taste, on the one hand, and self-censorship, on the other. The former is something you impose on yourself voluntarily, or in order to behave in accordance with an etiquette. The latter implies that there is something that you would like to say, but you refrain from saying it because you fear what might happen to you if you do it.

People learn new things everyday don't they?
Have a good day.

WingsOfGood posted...

You can't do both at the same time. Either the image I gave is not different or it happens to be a wide shot.

smh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a9bc7253.jpg

...The one on the right isn't bigger at all. Do you not understand how angles work? Have you never seen another person in your life?

StealThisSheen posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c28004a4.jpg

still say the same?

WingsOfGood posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c28004a4.jpg

still say the same?

laughed in real life

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

he's the only poster whose unironic behavior has made me laugh in real life on multiple occasions

WingsOfGood posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c28004a4.jpg

still say the same?

No. Actually, the one on the left appears bigger, there, in fact.

dude holy shit lmfao

i just watched the trailer

it's a literal single frame and she takes up 1% of the screen real estate

why would u even expect detail on a shot like that

holy shit this is so funny

Dungeater posted...

dude holy shit lmfao

i just watched the trailer

it's a literal single frame and she takes up 1% of the screen real estate

why would u even expect detail on a shot like that

holy shit this is so funny

it was already discussed on this and I said hopefully this is true

but users want to keep arguing claiming that infact in the original show she did not have a big butt except in that one apocalypse meme photo which is false

WingsOfGood posted...

it was already discussed on this and I said hopefully this is true

lmfao u dont even know what youre arguing against

laughed in real life btw

Dungeater posted...

lmfao u dont even know what youre arguing against

laughed in real life btw

what do you mean? they literally said there is a single time in the old anime she had a big butt, did you read this thread or just join in now?

you responded "hopefully this is true" to my post

which is funny cuz on account of itd mean u didnt watch the trailer

i forgive u if u misspoke

Wings has spent his entire day complaining about a cartoon character's ass and feverishly screen capping scenes where he thinks it looks "bigger" to prove it was "censored"

I don't even know what to say to this

Dudebusters posted...

Wings has spent his entire day complaining about a cartoon character's ass and feverishly screen capping scenes where he thinks it looks "bigger" to prove it was "censored"

I don't even know what to say to this

false, those images were not from today. didn't take time at all

Dungeater posted...

you responded "hopefully this is true" to my post

Hopefully it is true that Rogue butt in the new anime is bigger in other scenes. As you mentioned, there is only 1 shot of it so far. Or are you saying you see another one in the trailer?

but users ITT said OLD tas she never had a big butt except in one small scene which is the meme one of her on the ground.
understand?

WingsOfGood posted...

false, those images were not from today. didn't take time at all

Hopefully it is true that Rogue butt in the new anime is bigger in other scenes. As you mentioned, there is only 1 shot of it so far. Or are you saying you see another one in the trailer?

but users ITT said OLD tas she never had a big butt except in one small scene which is the meme one of her on the ground.
understand?

Im beginning to think you dont know what the word big means.

WingsOfGood posted...

false, those images were not from today. didn't take time at all

Dude, what

Saying "I actually collected these images over a longer period of time" is not the comeback you think it is.