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WingsOfGood 03/12/24 4:48:05 PM #51:	Didn't Spiderman TAS like not having actual punching in it because they felt kids shouldn't watch a guy punching others? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/206-comics-and-graphic-novels/79203976 <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979333356] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Didn't Spiderman TAS like not having actual punching in it because they felt kids shouldn't watch a guy punching others?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/206-comics-and-graphic-novels/79203976</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/12/24 4:50:20 PM #52:	WingsOfGood posted... It is a continuation of the old 97 cartoon so Rogue had a butt and now she doesn't is the same thing. This is isn't supposed to be treated like a new series as it even starts where the old one left off and these are the same characters in the same costumes with the same development from the previous. I get the argument why removing the butt is good to make it watchable for kids, but you don't then argue that isn't censoring. I was mostly joking Rogue in 97 looks like she did for 99.99 percent of the old show. That butt scene was one meme shot from one minute of one episode. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979333399] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>It is a continuation of the old 97 cartoon so Rogue had a butt and now she doesn't is the same thing.This is isn't supposed to be treated like a new series as it even starts where the old one left off and these are the same characters in the same costumes with the same development from the previous.I get the argument why removing the butt is good to make it watchable for kids, but you don't then argue that isn't censoring. I was mostly joking</quote>Rogue in 97 looks like she did for 99.99 percent of the old show. That butt scene was one meme shot from one minute of one episode. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/12/24 4:51:47 PM #53:	X-men the animated series was a good but flawed cartoon. Spiderman the animated series was a decent show that got worse every season and was unwatchable at the end. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979333435] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>X-men the animated series was a good but flawed cartoon.Spiderman the animated series was a decent show that got worse every season and was unwatchable at the end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 03/12/24 4:58:25 PM #54:	creativerealms posted... Rogue in 97 looks like she did for 99.99 percent of the old show. That butt scene was one meme shot from one minute of one episode. Here is a reel of how she looked in old 1997 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWGV9Uxr6-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcTr3TqGaio As such correct that in some actions scenes the butt appears flatter than in others. But note that if someone says most of the time it looks that way they aren't being honest. She probably was too sexy for a kids cartoon depending on how you view that. Same for probably the Batman TAS ladies. Anyways, I don't really care if they make her hot in the new version https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62f244ff.jpg <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979333550] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Rogue in 97 looks like she did for 99.99 percent of the old show. That butt scene was one meme shot from one minute of one episode.</quote>Here is a reel of how she looked in old 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWGV9Uxr6-4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcTr3TqGaioAs such correct that in some actions scenes the butt appears flatter than in others. But note that if someone says most of the time it looks that way they aren't being honest.She probably was too sexy for a kids cartoon depending on how you view that. Same for probably the Batman TAS ladies.Anyways, I don't really care if they make her hot in the new versionhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62f244ff.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 03/12/24 5:01:44 PM #55:	( Sees that all the talk is about Rouge's butt...facedesks) Bloody hell it was only a few shots that it was that big folks get a grip. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:979333618] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>( Sees that all the talk is about Rouge's butt...facedesks) Bloody hell it was only a few shots that it was that big folks get a grip. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 03/12/24 5:03:14 PM #56:	Tanthalas posted... Lol, the show was fantastic when it released back in the day. It's what made me a huge X-Men fan. It was not lol that's just nostalgia talking. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:979333640] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Tanthalas posted... </cite><quote>Lol, the show was fantastic when it released back in the day. It's what made me a huge X-Men fan.</quote>It was not lol that's just nostalgia talking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 03/12/24 5:04:35 PM #57:	It was not lol that's just nostalgia talking. Nah its still superior to all the ones after it. Evolution took to long to get out of the high school phase, and Wolverine and the X-men only lasted a season. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:979333666] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote><quote>It was not lol that's just nostalgia talking.</quote>Nah its still superior to all the ones after it. Evolution took to long to get out of the high school phase, and Wolverine and the X-men only lasted a season. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/12/24 5:05:06 PM #58:	WingsOfGood posted... Here is a reel of how she looked in old 1997 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWGV9Uxr6-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcTr3TqGaio As such correct that in some actions scenes the butt appears flatter than in others. But note that if someone says most of the time it looks that way they aren't being honest. She probably was too sexy for a kids cartoon depending on how you view that. Same for probably the Batman TAS ladies. Anyways, I don't really care if they make her hot in the new version https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62f244ff.jpg And none of it matches the apocalypse shot that has became a meme. All people are doing is comparing one shot of the original with one shot of the new one. For all we know there might be shots in 97 where her behind is larger. Larger then normal I mean, not larger then the Apocalypse image --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979333676] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Here is a reel of how she looked in old 1997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWGV9Uxr6-4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcTr3TqGaioAs such correct that in some actions scenes the butt appears flatter than in others. But note that if someone says most of the time it looks that way they aren't being honest.She probably was too sexy for a kids cartoon depending on how you view that. Same for probably the Batman TAS ladies.Anyways, I don't really care if they make her hot in the new versionhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/62f244ff.jpg</quote>And none of it matches the apocalypse shot that has became a meme. All people are doing is comparing one shot of the original with one shot of the new one. For all we know there might be shots in 97 where her behind is larger. Larger then normal I mean, not larger then the Apocalypse image </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 03/12/24 5:05:33 PM #59:	creativerealms posted... For all we know there might be shots in 97 where her behind is larger. and if there are then ok <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979333681] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>For all we know there might be shots in 97 where her behind is larger.</quote>and if there are then ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOPPAl 03/12/24 5:05:41 PM #60:	Necronmon posted... ( Sees that all the talk is about Rouge's butt...facedesks) Bloody hell it was only a few shots that it was that big folks get a grip. It made such an impression tho. I'm a boobman, but even I have to respect the precedent that Rogue's butt laid out for multiple generations --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonOPPAl posted [p:979333684] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>( Sees that all the talk is about Rouge's butt...facedesks) Bloody hell it was only a few shots that it was that big folks get a grip.</quote>It made such an impression tho. I'm a boobman, but even I have to respect the precedent that Rogue's butt laid out for multiple generations </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 03/12/24 5:06:42 PM #61:	Necronmon posted... Nah its still superior to all the ones after it. Evolution took to long to get out of the high school phase, and Wolverine and the X-men only lasted a season. I very much disagree. The action, plots, characterization and animation on those two shows were MUCH better than TAS. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:979333700] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>Nah its still superior to all the ones after it. Evolution took to long to get out of the high school phase, and Wolverine and the X-men only lasted a season.</quote>I very much disagree. The action, plots, characterization and animation on those two shows were MUCH better than TAS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 03/12/24 5:06:54 PM #62:	Itt https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b69069c2.jpg --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:979333701] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Itthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b69069c2.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/12/24 5:07:19 PM #63:	I mean I'm asexual so I really don't have a stake in this battle. Characters (of both sexes) being sexualized is just a natural part of media that I have accepted even if I don't get it. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979333713] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>I mean I'm asexual so I really don't have a stake in this battle. Characters (of both sexes) being sexualized is just a natural part of media that I have accepted even if I don't get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 03/12/24 5:07:37 PM #64:	NeonOPPAl posted... It made such an impression tho. I'm a boobman, but even I have to respect the precedent that Rogue's butt laid out for multiple generations It didn't set a precedent. What you're thinking of is the meme that had been passed around for decades, long after the show aired. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:979333719] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>NeonOPPAl posted... </cite><quote>It made such an impression tho. I'm a boobman, but even I have to respect the precedent that Rogue's butt laid out for multiple generations</quote>It didn't set a precedent. What you're thinking of is the meme that had been passed around for decades, long after the show aired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOPPAl 03/12/24 5:08:25 PM #65:	lolife67 posted... It didn't set a precedent. What you're thinking of is the meme that had been passed around for decades, long after the show aired. Kid me definitely had a crush on Rogue >_> I may not know what a chiseled ass was yet, but I knew Rogue was hot --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonOPPAl posted [p:979333735] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite><quote>It didn't set a precedent. What you're thinking of is the meme that had been passed around for decades, long after the show aired.</quote>Kid me definitely had a crush on Rogue >_> I may not know what a chiseled ass was yet, but I knew Rogue was hot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 03/12/24 5:09:07 PM #66:	I very much disagree. The action, plots, characterization and animation on those two shows were MUCH better than TAS. Not to fair to compare animation to shows that came out decades apart, and I felt the 90's X-men had the most fleshed out versions of most of them...in Wolverine in the X-men only Wolverine and oh...Frost even had time to develop personality. Hell Magneto was still the best in the 90's version as he backtracked in complexity in later versions. Gambit just got reduced to a cameo in the later shows along some of the others. The 90's one is still the only one to give us Cable and many others to. I won't deny that later shows had some like Iceman, Nightcrawler, or Shadowcat have much larger roles since they were part of the team...I guess it depends on who you care about being in the show more since they had different core teams. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:979333753] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote><quote>I very much disagree. The action, plots, characterization and animation on those two shows were MUCH better than TAS.</quote>Not to fair to compare animation to shows that came out decades apart, and I felt the 90's X-men had the most fleshed out versions of most of them...in Wolverine in the X-men only Wolverine and oh...Frost even had time to develop personality. Hell Magneto was still the best in the 90's version as he backtracked in complexity in later versions. Gambit just got reduced to a cameo in the later shows along some of the others. The 90's one is still the only one to give us Cable and many others to. I won't deny that later shows had some like Iceman, Nightcrawler, or Shadowcat have much larger roles since they were part of the team...I guess it depends on who you care about being in the show more since they had different core teams. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 03/12/24 5:09:52 PM #67:	NeonOPPAl posted... Kid me definitely had a crush on Rogue >_> I may not know what a chiseled ass was yet, but I knew Rogue was hot Sure but not because of her ass, which is what your initial post was specifically addressing. Not to mention, she was much hotter in the comics, which may also be what people are conflating. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:979333763] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>NeonOPPAl posted... </cite><quote>Kid me definitely had a crush on Rogue >_> I may not know what a chiseled ass was yet, but I knew Rogue was hot</quote>Sure but not because of her ass, which is what your initial post was specifically addressing. Not to mention, she was much hotter in the comics, which may also be what people are conflating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/12/24 5:10:38 PM #68:	lolife67 posted... It didn't set a precedent. What you're thinking of is the meme that had been passed around for decades, long after the show aired. Yeah and people are aware that other character designs for Rogue exist. Many even flatter then the 97 design. Like Wolverine and the X-Men's twig Rogue. Yet only this one gets hate because of the meme, because it's more personal. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979333783] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite><quote>It didn't set a precedent. What you're thinking of is the meme that had been passed around for decades, long after the show aired.</quote>Yeah and people are aware that other character designs for Rogue exist. Many even flatter then the 97 design. Like Wolverine and the X-Men's twig Rogue.Yet only this one gets hate because of the meme, because it's more personal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 03/12/24 5:11:59 PM #69:	Necronmon posted... Not to fair to compare animation to shows that came out decades apart, and I felt the 90's X-men had the most fleshed out versions of most of them...in Wolverine in the X-men only Wolverine and oh...Frost even had time to develop personality. Hell Magneto was still the best in the 90's version as he backtracked in complexity in later versions. Gambit just got reduced to a cameo in the later shows along some of the others. The 90's one is still the only one to give us Cable and many others to. Well it's not like they aired decades apart, so if you're going to claim one is so much better than the others, it's fair to talk about everything. And I don't care about cameos. I care about actual food writing/dialogue, which sucked in TAS. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:979333801] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>Not to fair to compare animation to shows that came out decades apart, and I felt the 90's X-men had the most fleshed out versions of most of them...in Wolverine in the X-men only Wolverine and oh...Frost even had time to develop personality. Hell Magneto was still the best in the 90's version as he backtracked in complexity in later versions. Gambit just got reduced to a cameo in the later shows along some of the others. The 90's one is still the only one to give us Cable and many others to.</quote>Well it's not like they aired decades apart, so if you're going to claim one is so much better than the others, it's fair to talk about everything.And I don't care about cameos. I care about actual food writing/dialogue, which sucked in TAS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/12/24 5:13:13 PM #70:	LinkDaLunatic posted... lol at how quickly this dude launched into ad-hom you don't even know what that means... --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5), Like a Dragon Gaiden (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979333818] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>lol at how quickly this dude launched into ad-hom</quote>you don't even know what that means... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 03/12/24 5:15:34 PM #71:	I mean, X-men 92 started in 92, Evolution started in 2000, and Wolverine and the X-men aired in 2009 so that is almost decades apart in when they each aired. I mean, the 90's show did have a lot of good lines so not sure what else you were looking for but does not seem we are going to agree on this. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:979333859] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>I mean, X-men 92 started in 92, Evolution started in 2000, and Wolverine and the X-men aired in 2009 so that is almost decades apart in when they each aired. I mean, the 90's show did have a lot of good lines so not sure what else you were looking for but does not seem we are going to agree on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/12/24 5:16:30 PM #72:	lolife67 posted... And I don't care about cameos. I care about actual food writing/dialogue, which sucked in TAS. Seems like the wrong show for that. Top Chef? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979333879] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite><quote>And I don't care about cameos. I care about actual food writing/dialogue, which sucked in TAS.</quote>Seems like the wrong show for that.Top Chef? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 03/12/24 5:20:31 PM #73:	How quickly this topic stopped being about the creator being fired. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979333972] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>How quickly this topic stopped being about the creator being fired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 03/12/24 5:23:02 PM #74:	Wasn't just one scene. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8111aec2.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da671213.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/907025a9.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8fa9f759.jpg <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979334021] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't just one scene. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8111aec2.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da671213.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/907025a9.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8fa9f759.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 03/12/24 5:23:05 PM #75:	CrimsonGear80 posted... you don't even know what that means... "ad hominem (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining." so you know, exactly what you did. glad i could clear this up for you. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:979334022] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>you don't even know what that means...</quote>"ad hominem(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."so you know, exactly what you did. glad i could clear this up for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/12/24 5:23:07 PM #76:	It's not like the 90s cartoon gave us everyone. Like no Kitty Pride going as far as removing her from "Days of future's past" her most well known storyline. Or how Havok was just a cameo in one episode, despite Cyclops having a whole storyline about his missing family. They never had a real reunion between the brothers. I love X-Men TAS but all the shows picked and choose who they used and how they used them. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:979334023] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>It's not like the 90s cartoon gave us everyone. Like no Kitty Pride going as far as removing her from "Days of future's past" her most well known storyline. Or how Havok was just a cameo in one episode, despite Cyclops having a whole storyline about his missing family. They never had a real reunion between the brothers.I love X-Men TAS but all the shows picked and choose who they used and how they used them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 03/12/24 5:25:16 PM #77:	People that argue this show is for kids are so incredibly fucking disingenuous-- this show is 10000% nostalgia bait for Millennials & Gen X'ers. <cite>garan posted [p:979334056] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>People that argue this show is for kids are so incredibly fucking disingenuous-- this show is 10000% nostalgia bait for Millennials & Gen X'ers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 03/12/24 5:36:08 PM #78:	2 more just cause it is quite nice. whatever the case hope you guys are right and it was just one out of context scene of the new show and doesn't mean they nerfed her. But early last week, Marvel and DeMayo suddenly parted ways. His company email was deactivated and cast and crew were informed he was no longer on the project. DeMayos Instagram account, once a source for X-Men updates, was deleted. No reason for the firing was given. What is there really to say here about this guy? We have no idea why he was fired. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b2067e7.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0ffe03fb.jpg <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979334215] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>2 more just cause it is quite nice. whatever the case hope you guys are right and it was just one out of context scene of the new show and doesn't mean they nerfed her.<quote>But early last week, Marvel and DeMayo suddenly parted ways. His company email was deactivated and cast and crew were informed he was no longer on the project. DeMayos Instagram account, once a source for X-Men updates, was deleted. No reason for the firing was given.</quote>What is there really to say here about this guy? We have no idea why he was fired.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b2067e7.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0ffe03fb.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 03/12/24 5:40:56 PM #79:	It's not like the 90s cartoon gave us everyone. Like no Kitty Pride going as far as removing her from "Days of future's past" her most well known storyline. Or how Havok was just a cameo in one episode, despite Cyclops having a whole storyline about his missing family. They never had a real reunion between the brothers. I love X-Men TAS but all the shows picked and choose who they used and how they used them. Even the Comics does not have ALL the X-men in a arc at once, they picked and choose who would round out the show and sent everyone else to the reserves, there was no way they were going to have every active member on the show at once. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:979334277] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote><quote>It's not like the 90s cartoon gave us everyone. Like no Kitty Pride going as far as removing her from "Days of future's past" her most well known storyline. Or how Havok was just a cameo in one episode, despite Cyclops having a whole storyline about his missing family. They never had a real reunion between the brothers.I love X-Men TAS but all the shows picked and choose who they used and how they used them.</quote>Even the Comics does not have ALL the X-men in a arc at once, they picked and choose who would round out the show and sent everyone else to the reserves, there was no way they were going to have every active member on the show at once. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 03/12/24 5:42:16 PM #80:	WingsOfGood posted... Didn't Spiderman TAS like not having actual punching in it because they felt kids shouldn't watch a guy punching others? Yep. One of the only times he was allowed to throw a punch on that show, Spidey was fighting the Spot, and naturally, the fist went through one of Spot's dimensional holes and came out of another, resulting in poor Peter punching himself. The network also demanded that Spidey not disturb any pigeons whenever he landed on rooftops. This was deliberately referenced in the later cartoon, The Spectacular Spider-Man, in which Peter repeatedly startled pigeons by swinging by, got thrown at pigeon cages, etc. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:979334291] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>Didn't Spiderman TAS like not having actual punching in it because they felt kids shouldn't watch a guy punching others?</quote>Yep. One of the only times he was allowed to throw a punch on that show, Spidey was fighting the Spot, and naturally, the fist went through one of Spot's dimensional holes and came out of another, resulting in poor Peter punching himself.The network also demanded that Spidey not disturb any pigeons whenever he landed on rooftops. This was deliberately referenced in the later cartoon, The Spectacular Spider-Man, in which Peter repeatedly startled pigeons by swinging by, got thrown at pigeon cages, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 03/12/24 5:51:21 PM #81:	Yep. One of the only times he was allowed to throw a punch on that show, Spidey was fighting the Spot, and naturally, the fist went through one of Spot's dimensional holes and came out of another, resulting in poor Peter punching himself. The network also demanded that Spidey not disturb any pigeons whenever he landed on rooftops. This was deliberately referenced in the later cartoon, The Spectacular Spider-Man, in which Peter repeatedly startled pigeons by swinging by, got thrown at pigeon cages, etc. People got to understand that as bad as it was, it STILL was leagues better then previous shows before it like Spiderman and freinds in which he was even MORE restricted in what he could do. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:979334422] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote><quote>Yep. One of the only times he was allowed to throw a punch on that show, Spidey was fighting the Spot, and naturally, the fist went through one of Spot's dimensional holes and came out of another, resulting in poor Peter punching himself.The network also demanded that Spidey not disturb any pigeons whenever he landed on rooftops. This was deliberately referenced in the later cartoon, The Spectacular Spider-Man, in which Peter repeatedly startled pigeons by swinging by, got thrown at pigeon cages, etc.</quote>People got to understand that as bad as it was, it STILL was leagues better then previous shows before it like Spiderman and freinds in which he was even MORE restricted in what he could do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antiyonder 03/12/24 6:05:34 PM #82:	Necronmon posted... People got to understand that as bad as it was, it STILL was leagues better then previous shows before it like Spiderman and freinds in which he was even MORE restricted in what he could do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Y25FT7DxE --- Amalgam Universe resident Born in 82. <cite>Antiyonder posted [p:979334635] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>People got to understand that as bad as it was, it STILL was leagues better then previous shows before it like Spiderman and freinds in which he was even MORE restricted in what he could do.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Y25FT7DxE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/12/24 7:28:32 PM #83:	LinkDaLunatic posted... "ad hominem (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining." so you know, exactly what you did. glad i could clear this up for you. did you read his posts? no? then I maintain you have no clue what it means...until you googled it, at least. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5), Like a Dragon Gaiden (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979335990] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>"ad hominem(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."so you know, exactly what you did. glad i could clear this up for you.</quote>did you read his posts?no? then I maintain you have no clue what it means...until you googled it, at least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 03/12/24 7:30:51 PM #84:	we're not talking about him. we're talking about you. he's not responsible for your actions or words, you are. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:979336025] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>we're not talking about him. we're talking about you.he's not responsible for your actions or words, you are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/12/24 7:35:14 PM #85:	LinkDaLunatic posted... we're not talking about him. we're talking about you. yes, my response to someone complaining that rouge's butt was nerfed... LinkDaLunatic posted... he's not responsible for your actions or words, you are. he's responsible for the response I gave him. maybe you should try reading his posts instead of just reading mine and pretending you know what you are talking about... --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5), Like a Dragon Gaiden (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979336087] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>we're not talking about him. we're talking about you.</quote>yes, my response to someone complaining that rouge's butt was nerfed...LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>he's not responsible for your actions or words, you are.</quote>he's responsible for the response I gave him. maybe you should try reading his posts instead of just reading mine and pretending you know what you are talking about... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 03/12/24 7:40:19 PM #86:	CrimsonGear80 posted... he's responsible for the response I gave him. either this is incorrect or you are stating you have no control over and therefore no responsibility for your own words and actions. which? --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:979336165] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>CrimsonGear80 posted... </cite><quote>he's responsible for the response I gave him.</quote>either this is incorrect or you are stating you have no control over and therefore no responsibility for your own words and actions. which? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 03/12/24 7:40:22 PM #87:	aarrgus posted... I'm continuously astounded by the excitement people have for this show... It's like I watched a completely different (and massively boring) X-Men cartoon in the 1990's than everyone else... yea im surprised too honestly. those 90s fox marvel shows were such dreck. i watched em cuz it was all i had if i wanted spider-man --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:979336166] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>aarrgus posted... </cite><quote>I'm continuously astounded by the excitement people have for this show... It's like I watched a completely different (and massively boring) X-Men cartoon in the 1990's than everyone else...</quote>yea im surprised too honestly. those 90s fox marvel shows were such dreck. i watched em cuz it was all i had if i wanted spider-man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/12/24 7:45:34 PM #88:	LinkDaLunatic posted... either this is incorrect or you are stating you have no control over and therefore no responsibility for your own words and actions. which? what the fuck are you even trying to do here? I can't believe I'm now getting bitched at for replying to someone based on what they said... i can understand if you also think Rouge's butt was nerfed and you don't like someone pointing out the only reason you were probably interested in this show was cartoon ass, but if not...what the fuck are you doing? --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5), Like a Dragon Gaiden (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979336240] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>either this is incorrect or you are stating you have no control over and therefore no responsibility for your own words and actions. which?</quote>what the fuck are you even trying to do here?I can't believe I'm now getting bitched at for replying to someone based on what they said...i can understand if you also think Rouge's butt was nerfed and you don't like someone pointing out the only reason you were probably interested in this show was cartoon ass, but if not...what the fuck are you doing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 03/12/24 7:53:41 PM #89:	well, all i WAS doing was joking about how quick you went to ad-hom. but now we've escalated and i think i'm helping you come to terms with the realization that you're in charge of your person. i'm helping you to take the reins in your own life, to be the master of your fate, as you were always meant to be. no longer will internet buttmads control you and make you say mean things to them! now YOU have the power. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:979336341] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>well, all i WAS doing was joking about how quick you went to ad-hom.but now we've escalated and i think i'm helping you come to terms with the realization that you're in charge of your person. i'm helping you to take the reins in your own life, to be the master of your fate, as you were always meant to be. no longer will internet buttmads control you and make you say mean things to them! now YOU have the power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 03/12/24 7:58:21 PM #90:	WingsOfGood posted... did he choose to censor Rogue's butt? He probably got fired for not censoring his own butt <cite>Raikuro posted [p:979336424] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>did he choose to censor Rogue's butt?</quote>He probably got fired for not censoring his own butt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheiky-Baby 03/12/24 8:03:40 PM #91:	DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... I would have fired him as soon as he wanted to put Magneto in that fucking stupid M costume. Why? You do realize it's part of the original comic series right? When Magneto decided to go Anti-hero.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/24eb3afd.jpg --- "Make pain your best friend, and you'll never be alone." <cite>Sheiky-Baby posted [p:979336499] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted... </cite><quote>I would have fired him as soon as he wanted to put Magneto in that fucking stupid M costume.</quote>Why? You do realize it's part of the original comic series right? When Magneto decided to go Anti-hero.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/24eb3afd.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 03/12/24 8:05:39 PM #92:	Necronmon posted... People got to understand that as bad as it was, it STILL was leagues better then previous shows before it like Spiderman and freinds in which he was even MORE restricted in what he could do. Yep. Which is one of many reasons why I don't buy the chuds' claims of "censorship" just because, for example, Rogue isn't being constantly sexualized (never mind that they only really show one screenshot of her from the old cartoon as "proof" of their "censorship" claim for X-Men '97): newer shows face considerably less censorship than the ones we grew up on back in the day. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:979336522] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>People got to understand that as bad as it was, it STILL was leagues better then previous shows before it like Spiderman and freinds in which he was even MORE restricted in what he could do.</quote>Yep. Which is one of many reasons why I don't buy the chuds' claims of "censorship" just because, for example, Rogue isn't being constantly sexualized (never mind that they only really show one screenshot of her from the old cartoon as "proof" of their "censorship" claim for X-Men '97): newer shows face considerably less censorship than the ones we grew up on back in the day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrimsonGear80 03/12/24 8:05:46 PM #93:	LinkDaLunatic posted... well, all i WAS doing was joking about how quick you went to ad-hom. oh it was a JOKE? now it makes sense, no one would be that serious about defending someone complaining about censored cartoon butt. ha ha. Funny. --- PSN: ArsenalGear, NNID: CrimsonG80, XB GT: CrimsonG80 Last game(s) finished: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5), Like a Dragon Gaiden (PS5) <cite>CrimsonGear80 posted [p:979336523] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>LinkDaLunatic posted... </cite><quote>well, all i WAS doing was joking about how quick you went to ad-hom.</quote>oh it was a JOKE? now it makes sense, no one would be that serious about defending someone complaining about censored cartoon butt. ha ha. Funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 03/12/24 8:14:04 PM #94:	joking as in joking around. as in, i said what i said, but the tone wasn't serious. what i said still applies. but your reaction is more than a little disproportionate. first it was that nonsense about not knowing what ad-hom is, then when i shut that down you started this weird existential crisis thing you've got going on where you can't seem to reckon my existence as someone who pointed out your behavior with your place in the universe. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:979336643] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>joking as in joking around. as in, i said what i said, but the tone wasn't serious. what i said still applies.but your reaction is more than a little disproportionate. first it was that nonsense about not knowing what ad-hom is, then when i shut that down you started this weird existential crisis thing you've got going on where you can't seem to reckon my existence as someone who pointed out your behavior with your place in the universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC 03/13/24 2:39:35 AM #95:	Sheiky-Baby posted... Why? You do realize it's part of the original comic series right? When Magneto decided to go Anti-hero.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/24eb3afd.jpg Yes, I'm well aware it's from the original series. I still maintain its the stupidest costume he ever wore. --- The world may be going to Hell, but I am personally awash with convenience. <cite>DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted [p:979341022] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Sheiky-Baby posted... </cite><quote>Why? You do realize it's part of the original comic series right? When Magneto decided to go Anti-hero.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/24eb3afd.jpg</quote>Yes, I'm well aware it's from the original series. I still maintain its the stupidest costume he ever wore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 03/13/24 2:45:03 AM #96:	WingsOfGood posted... did he choose to censor Rogue's butt? Rogues butt wasnt censored, the old show had her looking the same and chuds cherrypicking a single meme image doesnt change that. Also funny that chuds are concerned about this since they shouldnt even like X-Men because of its themes. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979341068] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>did he choose to censor Rogue's butt?</quote>Rogues butt wasnt censored, the old show had her looking the same and chuds cherrypicking a single meme image doesnt change that. Also funny that chuds are concerned about this since they shouldnt even like X-Men because of its themes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antiyonder 03/13/24 2:56:05 AM #97:	Zwijn posted... Also funny that chuds are concerned about this since they shouldnt even like X-Men because of its themes. Just more that people don't want to own that the themes flew over their heads. But if the original 5 seasons debuted today, they would be pick apart for the reason you stated. Heck, Time Fugitive not only having it's variation on the Legacy Virus which is basically a call out to AIDS scare. And it's basically AIDS manufactured as a means to justify such. --- Amalgam Universe resident Born in 82. <cite>Antiyonder posted [p:979341143] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Zwijn posted... </cite><quote>Also funny that chuds are concerned about this since they shouldnt even like X-Men because of its themes.</quote>Just more that people don't want to own that the themes flew over their heads. But if the original 5 seasons debuted today, they would be pick apart for the reason you stated. Heck, Time Fugitive not only having it's variation on the Legacy Virus which is basically a call out to AIDS scare. And it's basically AIDS manufactured as a means to justify such. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 03/13/24 4:20:22 AM #98:	Antiyonder posted... Just more that people don't want to own that the themes flew over their heads. But if the original 5 seasons debuted today, they would be pick apart for the reason you stated. Heck, Time Fugitive not only having it's variation on the Legacy Virus which is basically a call out to AIDS scare. And it's basically AIDS manufactured as a means to justify such. This goes for more than X-Men really. There is a whole list I love posting since these guys try to find loopholes for why they did like it: The new He-Man and She-Ra shows werent woke reboots, the original 80s shows were co-opted by the LGBT community as soon as they aired, some of the staff was part of the community and the showmakers also publicly supported this group. Think all your anime and JRPGs are based because of conservative Japan? Fuck off, FFVII is literally about protection of the planet and has many eco-friendly themes, you play as a group of ecoterrorists who would hate your ass. Japan also has positive depictions of LGBT and progressive themes, the west even censored Sailor Moon because of this. One of the most progressive shows to ever be made is from 1989 and is a Euro-Japanese collaboration. Its cultural heritage of many countries, even the most conservative people have seen and liked it as a kid. They often talk about it but there is no way in hell they could love this show, they just forgot all about it: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/feec5bd7.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/61dea670.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6004142c.jpg Not only X-Men had progressive themes, DC and Marvel in general were filled with these since their inception. I saw a thread about MGS3 being too hardcore for the current crowd and the remake needing to be censored for them. They probably forgot who The Boss is and what the themes around her are. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979341583] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Antiyonder posted... </cite><quote>Just more that people don't want to own that the themes flew over their heads. But if the original 5 seasons debuted today, they would be pick apart for the reason you stated. Heck, Time Fugitive not only having it's variation on the Legacy Virus which is basically a call out to AIDS scare. And it's basically AIDS manufactured as a means to justify such.</quote>This goes for more than X-Men really. There is a whole list I love posting since these guys try to find loopholes for why they did like it:The new He-Man and She-Ra shows werent woke reboots, the original 80s shows were co-opted by the LGBT community as soon as they aired, some of the staff was part of the community and the showmakers also publicly supported this group.Think all your anime and JRPGs are based because of conservative Japan? Fuck off, FFVII is literally about protection of the planet and has many eco-friendly themes, you play as a group of ecoterrorists who would hate your ass. Japan also has positive depictions of LGBT and progressive themes, the west even censored Sailor Moon because of this.One of the most progressive shows to ever be made is from 1989 and is a Euro-Japanese collaboration. Its cultural heritage of many countries, even the most conservative people have seen and liked it as a kid. They often talk about it but there is no way in hell they could love this show, they just forgot all about it:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/feec5bd7.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/61dea670.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6004142c.jpgNot only X-Men had progressive themes, DC and Marvel in general were filled with these since their inception.I saw a thread about MGS3 being too hardcore for the current crowd and the remake needing to be censored for them. They probably forgot who The Boss is and what the themes around her are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antiyonder 03/13/24 4:32:49 AM #99:	@Zwijn Also Captain Planet and the Planeteers which quality aside we use to think that the Eco-Villains were absurd cause no one would willingly do something to harm the environment or doing so for laughs. But besides the assertion that heavy-handed entertainment was non-existent there is the claim that the 1900s as a whole was relaxed when it came to sensitivity. Yeah no matter how one spins it, finding a kiss between people of two different races or same gender appalling and arrest worthy is being oversensitive. Or even if one followed all of their religious rules consistently, I would think that catering to the point of making laws in their favor would be considered coddling. --- Amalgam Universe resident Born in 82. <cite>Antiyonder posted [p:979341643] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>@ZwijnAlso Captain Planet and the Planeteers which quality aside we use to think that the Eco-Villains were absurd cause no one would willingly do something to harm the environment or doing so for laughs.But besides the assertion that heavy-handed entertainment was non-existent there is the claim that the 1900s as a whole was relaxed when it came to sensitivity. Yeah no matter how one spins it, finding a kiss between people of two different races or same gender appalling and arrest worthy is being oversensitive.Or even if one followed all of their religious rules consistently, I would think that catering to the point of making laws in their favor would be considered coddling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 03/13/24 4:37:46 AM #100:	Antiyonder posted... @Zwijn Also Captain Planet and the Planeteers which quality aside we use to think that the Eco-Villains were absurd cause no one would willingly do something to harm the environment or doing so for laughs. But besides the assertion that heavy-handed entertainment was non-existent there is the claim that the 1900s as a whole was relaxed when it came to sensitivity. Yeah no matter how one spins it, finding a kiss between people of two different races or same gender appalling and arrest worthy is being oversensitive. Or even if one followed all of their religious rules consistently, I would think that catering to the point of making laws in their favor would be considered coddling. Oh yeah, theyd blow a fuse if they knew who was behind Captain Planet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979341659] in 'X-Men '97... [t:80719796]...</cite> <quote>Antiyonder posted... </cite><quote>@ZwijnAlso Captain Planet and the Planeteers which quality aside we use to think that the Eco-Villains were absurd cause no one would willingly do something to harm the environment or doing so for laughs.But besides the assertion that heavy-handed entertainment was non-existent there is the claim that the 1900s as a whole was relaxed when it came to sensitivity. Yeah no matter how one spins it, finding a kiss between people of two different races or same gender appalling and arrest worthy is being oversensitive.Or even if one followed all of their religious rules consistently, I would think that catering to the point of making laws in their favor would be considered coddling.</quote>Oh yeah, theyd blow a fuse if they knew who was behind Captain Planet.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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