Current Events > Did JK Rowling Deny the Holocaust?

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One can defend Jews and engage in Holocaust denial, dude. This is a really weird look.

she is claiming the nazis did not engage in the persecution and genocide of trans people, a thing the nazis did in fact do

that constitutes holocaust denial. holocaust denial isnt simply saying the holocaust didnt occur

She clearly acknowledged the Holocaust happened?

It might be time for you to quickly read up on what Holocaust denial is.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM&pp=ygUVc3RvcCBpdCBnZXQgc29tZSBoZWxw

saying it was greatly exaggerated.

To me this looks like at worst, ignorance of a specific event, and at best, she was just calling out the dude for making a massive reach when placing her opinion. I don't think she denies the Holocaust outright.

So change Holocaust denial to Trans Genocide denial if you want to be pedantic about it

Holocaust denial is denying the Holocaust either happened, or saying it was greatly exaggerated. It's anti-semetic in nature because of the implications that Jews made the whole thing up to help rule the world or whatever the conspiracy is.

Adopting that term because she got in another spat with trans people online to label her as anti-semetic seems pretty dishonest to me.

To me this looks like at worst, ignorance of a specific event

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM&pp=ygUVc3RvcCBpdCBnZXQgc29tZSBoZWxw

Thus making this the third topic about this, unless you've got me on Ignore. (I mean all you folks gotta do is type rowling into the search bar, goodness knows I did)

Anyway...

This is the end result of her presuming that any information about the history of trans people delivered by someone who dislikes her must in fact be a lie or extremely exaggerated or taken out of context simply due to the nature of the source presenting it. She ended up being flatly wrong.

To tack on top of that, she engaged in several further bad faith tweets, not to retract her original statement about believing trans persecution by the Nazis was a "fever dream", but instead to move the goalposts and imply that she was still "right" only very tangentially by proxy by tacking on extra conditions.

What comes of a life on Twitter of trying to "one-up" someone else, in this case, ends in denial of an event that occurred in the Holocaust.

That is, in fact, Holocaust denial.

You don't have to say "it didn't happen" to be a denier. Saying "it wasn't all that bad" or in this case "those people weren't targeted (despite there being evidence they were)" is still denial.

Mod came into the topic and did nothing about it lol.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM&pp=ygUVc3RvcCBpdCBnZXQgc29tZSBoZWxw

Denying that certain verifiable victims of Nazi Party sanctioned extermination existed does fall under the umbrella of Holocaust denial.

You're wrong here, TC.

If you want to say she's denying trans genocide or anti trans that's fine. If you want to call her a "Holocaust denier" and then people take 5 seconds to google her acknowledging the Holocaust and defending Jewish people you're going to hurt your own cause.

I suspect there's a reason people are saying she's denying the Holocaust rather than saying she's engaging in Holocaust denial with specific respect to the way trans people were treated. Basically they just want to inflict the maximum amount of social shame they think is possible

The trans genocide carried out by Nazis was part of the Holocaust.

Something tells me you aren't so concerned for the trans movement that you're worried the language they use is causing them to lose followers. You defended pedantry earlier as being accurate with your words: it is accurate to call this Holocaust denial, regardless of whose feathers get ruffled in the process.

Mod came into the topic and did nothing about it lol.

I'm pretty much concerned for the entire section of the left that behaves this way.

She literally doesnt believe part of it happened now STFU.

Tantrums and outrage don't make you right. Try engaging in the conversation rather than trying to farm agreement and blocking people who disagree. Reddit is that way

Yes she is denying that trans people were targeted (along with many other groups) during the holocaust.

I suspect there's a reason people are saying she's denying the Holocaust rather than saying she's engaging in Holocaust denial with specific respect to the way trans people were treated. Basically they just want to inflict the maximum amount of social shame they think is possible

So she only did a "little bit" of Holocaust denial?

Which other groups?

Add "with respect to trans people" and we have a deal

Do you think that makes it better?

Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, communists, basically anyone they disliked they ether locked up, killed or both.

Pretty rough question. Is it better than outright Holocaust denial? I would say so.

Pretty rough question. Is it better than outright Holocaust denial? I would say so. Is it good? No. It's bad

I didn't see her mention any of that

I'm not saying she should. She's hyper focused on removing Trans people and only trans people. As so her denial is hyper focused just on ignoring the Nazi's tried to kill them. I'm sure she sees what the Nazis did to all those other groups as a horrible thing. And would never deny that it happened.

Why would you even bother?

I'm pretty much concerned for the entire section of the left that behaves this way. It really does hurt our image in the view of the general public.

I feel like you guys don't realize how out of touch you are with general society when you call JK Rowling a Holocaust denier. I put it in the same category as "Defund the police" meaning "redistribute the money to other services meant to fight crime" and saying racism doesn't apply to white people because it's a combination of prejudice and power or whatever.

We don't get to just redefine words and phrases that clearly mean one thing to umbrella over a bunch of things because you think it sounds good or inflammatory or engaging or fits your cause. Just say she's a terf and she doesn't like trans people, it's bad enough. You don't have to try to and pretend she doesn't think the Holocaust happened.