Current Events > Boeing whistleblower who died before he could testify said it isn't suicide

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He was scheduled to testify against Boeing the very day he was found dead in a car.

He predicted he might wind up dead so he told his family if they find him dead, don't believe it is suicide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA44FFi95PA

Well then

Jesus

Either they killed him or he sacrificed himself in order for the situation get a bigger spotlight.

How did be say it wasn't suicide if he's dead

Damn, I appreciate him being so thorough in anticipating his own demise.

We lost a decent person, should have been the Boeing upper executives instead.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

or he sacrificed himself in order for the situation get a bigger spotlight.

This is stupid take. He was literally just about to testify.

Think it over some more then rejoin the discussion.

Smashingpmkns posted...

How did be say it wasn't suicide if he's dead

So you don't understand how someone told their family members "if something happens to me it wasn't suicide" before they died?

It's really not that hard. He died on the day he was scheduled to testify, he warned his family of the potential foul play beforehand.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Either they killed him or he sacrificed himself in order for the situation get a bigger spotlight.

I don't know why you insist on making people think you're a terrible person, however that's all this post of yours accomplished. Good job.

I'm surprised people are just now hearing about this. The man wanted to testify against his former employer, his lawyer & him both said he wanted to wrap up this case with Boeing then move on with his life, & he said it wouldn't be a suicide if something should happen.

I believe we had a few people here that doubted that Boeing would have done anything to this guy, but people forget that organizations like Boeing are also part of the military industrial complex. They are more than capable of hiring Blackwater or someone else to snuff one guy then disappear with no avenues to track down who did it.

I think it's very possible, even likely, that he was killed. But this is weak shit. His mother's friends daughter saying he wouldn't kill himself is nothing and won't lead to anything either.

Kradek posted...

I don't know why you insist on making people think you're a terrible person, however that's all this post of yours accomplished. Good job.

His post doesn't make much sense, but I see nothing malicious in it to warrant calling him a terrible person.

Kradek posted...

So you don't understand how someone told their family members "if something happens to me it wasn't suicide" before they died?

It's really not that hard. He died on the day he was scheduled to testify, he warned his family of the potential foul play beforehand.

I don't know why you insist on making people think you're a terrible person, however that's all this post of yours accomplished. Good job.

Lmao. Im just looking at all the angles. The guy has been a whistleblower for quite a while now. Killing him JUST before the testimony makes it suspicious as fuck for Boeing and brings unwanted attention.

Smashingpmkns posted...

How did be say it wasn't suicide if he's dead

Smashingpmkns posted...

I think it's very possible, even likely, that he was killed. But this is weak shit. His mother's friends daughter saying he wouldn't kill himself is nothing and won't lead to anything either.

...Oh boy.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Lmao. Im just looking at all the angles. The guy has been a whistleblower for quite a while now. Killing him JUST before the testimony makes it suspicious as fuck for Boeing and brings unwanted attention.

you think this is better than testifying?

that is why your take is very poor and not well thought out

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Lmao. Im just looking at all the angles. The guy has been a whistleblower for quite a while now. Killing him JUST before the testimony makes it suspicious as fuck for Boeing and brings unwanted attention.

Company or some other has already outweigh the costs. Some unwanted attention for a few months leading to nothing happening is worth whatever it is they're trying to hide.

Also sends a message to undecided whistleblowers.

Guide posted...

His post doesn't make much sense, but I see nothing malicious in it to warrant calling him a terrible person.

Americans love a conspiracy theory. What better way to have everybody talk about Boeing than this? Not saying thats what happened, though. I do think its more likely he was killed.

But should we take it at face value?

I'm mainly curious why/how somebody would equate "So and so is saying he literally told them that, if he dies, it won't be suicide" to "So and so believes he wouldn't kill himself."

That seems like a rather dishonest portrayal.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

What better way to have everybody talk about Boeing than this?

by testifying in court

please stop trolling

Someone should go arrest Boeing

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Lmao. Im just looking at all the angles. The guy has been a whistleblower for quite a while now. Killing him JUST before the testimony makes it suspicious as fuck for Boeing and brings unwanted attention.

Newsflash: Rich fuckers who have never been held accountable to the law (or in this case actually have a large role in controlling and dictating the direction of our federal government) often flaunt the law and commit crimes because they're confident they'll get away with it.

You're literally saying this guy just killed himself to make it some huge spectacle.

Bringing the greatest spotlight to it would have been him testifying, not him killing himself on the day he was supposed to testify and now we will never have his testimony.

Guide posted...

His post doesn't make much sense, but I see nothing malicious in it to warrant calling him a terrible person.

He literally said this guy killed himself when he did to make it some huge spectacle/bring spotlight to it.

You know what would have brought an even greater spotlight to it? Him living and testifying.

Dude's trying to seriously pass off "he killed himself so that people would talk about Boeing on the day he was supposed to testify on Boeing".

Not only is it a shit-for-brains take, it makes the victim sound very stupid and impugns their character.

I'll grant you, perhaps terrible person was too far and I accept that. I still think it was a terrible post that served nothing logical.

Kradek posted...

Newsflash: Rich fuckers who have never been held accountable to the law (or in this case actually have a large role in controlling and dictating the direction of our federal government) often flaunt the law and commit crimes because they're confident they'll get away with it.

You're literally saying this guy just killed himself to make it some huge spectacle.

Bringing the greatest spotlight to it would have been him testifying, not him killing himself on the day he was supposed to testify and now we will never have his testimony.

He literally said this guy killed himself when he did to make it some huge spectacle/bring spotlight to it.

You know what would have brought an even greater spotlight to it? Him living and testifying.

Dude's trying to seriously pass off "he killed himself so that people would talk about Boeing on the day he was supposed to testify on Boeing".

Not only is it a shit-for-brains take, it makes the victim sound very stupid and impugns their character.

I'll grant you, perhaps terrible person was too far and I accept that. I still think it was a terrible post that served nothing logical.

A lot of words, yet you dont really know what happened. And saying the corporation killed him, while having sound logic, is still a conspiracy theory.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Either they killed him or he sacrificed himself in order for the situation get a bigger spotlight.

Minimum wage, we'll chalk it up to that. Maybe that. will grease some gears a little bit with the higher-ups.

The late, Richard Beebo Russell aka Sky King.

RIP

Another sign that he didn't commit suicide. Doubt the police will do anything or find the ones truly responsible considering his murder was likely the result of going against the corruption of the American elite and their interests. Damn shame we don't have real justice in this world.

If we pool our resources I'm sure we can find the real killer. The Internet is really good at that sort of thing.

AlephZero posted...

If we pool our resources I'm sure we can find the real killer. The Internet is really good at that sort of thing.

We still don't know what happened to madeleine

I seriously doubt Boeing whacked him simply because Barnett had been raising alarms and screaming from the hills for the last seven years about everything that had been going wrong at Boeing.

Kradek posted...

You know what would have brought an even greater spotlight to it? Him living and testifying.

honestly I'm not really sure about this

living and testifying would definitely be a better way to convey actual information. but people testify in court all the time and companies are involved in court things all the time and no one cares. it just sort of happens. something like this on the other hand is unusual and mysterious and is an actual Story. In terms of just being attention-grabbing I think it would hard to beat.

that said I also don't think it was suicide

Hospy posted...

I seriously doubt Boeing whacked him simply because Barnett had been raising alarms and screaming from the hills for the last seven years about everything that had been going wrong at Boeing.

Apparently youre just wrong on this board for entertaining that as a possibility.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

A lot of words, yet you dont really know what happened. And saying the corporation killed him, while having sound logic, is still a conspiracy theory.

Just cause something's a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not happening.

People conspiring together for crimes are literal legal charges of "conspiracy".

I'll stick by what I said, I guess you can stick with besmirching the guy.

Texaco killed a whistle blower in the 80s or 90s, this is no different.

Hospy posted...

I seriously doubt Boeing whacked him simply because Barnett had been raising alarms and screaming from the hills for the last seven years about everything that had been going wrong at Boeing.

It doesnt have to be Boeing, they have long close ties to the military and defense sectors. Could easily have been a black ops hit.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Lmao. Im just looking at all the angles. The guy has been a whistleblower for quite a while now. Killing him JUST before the testimony makes it suspicious as fuck for Boeing and brings unwanted attention.

There's no way the guy turning up dead wouldn't look suspicious for Boeing.

mybbqrules posted...

There's no way the guy turning up dead wouldn't look suspicious for Boeing.

His argument is that he killed himself on that day specifically to make Boeing look suspicious and have people talking about the company due to his demise.

kirbymuncher posted...

honestly I'm not really sure about this

living and testifying would definitely be a better way to convey actual information. but people testify in court all the time and companies are involved in court things all the time and no one cares. it just sort of happens. something like this on the other hand is unusual and mysterious and is an actual Story. In terms of just being attention-grabbing I think it would hard to beat.

that said I also don't think it was suicide

Were this the 90s or early 00s I would be inclined to agree, however in the age of social media, especially the role Twitter plays with actual journalists who share information which often gets reshared on other social media/platforms, that's not the case.

Threads here are often based off information shared on Twitter.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Apparently youre just wrong on this board for entertaining that as a possibility.

My dude, your hypothetical was stupid as fuck.

If I was to testify and want to kill myself for publicity (not what happened just for the sake of argument; to shutdown this argument)
I would testify first before I kill myself to make maximum impact.

Dying before testifying means they get away with what they did.
Is that hard to understand?

Kradek posted...

Newsflash: Rich fuckers who have never been held accountable to the law (or in this case actually have a large role in controlling and dictating the direction of our federal government) often flaunt the law and commit crimes because they're confident they'll get away with it.

You're literally saying this guy just killed himself to make it some huge spectacle.

Bringing the greatest spotlight to it would have been him testifying, not him killing himself on the day he was supposed to testify and now we will never have his testimony.

He literally said this guy killed himself when he did to make it some huge spectacle/bring spotlight to it.

You know what would have brought an even greater spotlight to it? Him living and testifying.

Dude's trying to seriously pass off "he killed himself so that people would talk about Boeing on the day he was supposed to testify on Boeing".

Not only is it a shit-for-brains take, it makes the victim sound very stupid and impugns their character.

I'll grant you, perhaps terrible person was too far and I accept that. I still think it was a terrible post that served nothing logical.

No getting assassinated the day before testifying would definitely get remembered for far longer than some guys testimony. Hed have to be fucking crazy to do it but it would be memorable.

He should have given testimony in a depostion before this so there was less of a danger to himself. Then his testinony in person wouldnt matter.

divot1338 posted...

No getting assassinated the day before testifying would definitely get remembered for far longer than some guys testimony. Hed have to be fucking crazy to do it but it would be memorable.

He should have given testimony in a deposition before this so there was less of a danger to himself. Then his testimony in person wouldnt matter.

Him killing himself to create a narrative that he was assassinated does not help him either A) expose Boening for what they've done or B) compliment his intelligence in the least.

Even if I can't disagree with the statement "him getting assassinated before testifying is more talked about" in a vacuum, the fact is in regards to what I'm discussing with another poster they are saying he intentionally killed himself to create this narrative as opposed to testifying and exposing Boeing.

Harkening back to points A & B, it besmirches his character to suggest such and that's why I have such an issue with it.

Kradek posted...

Harkening back to points A & B, it besmirches his character to suggest such and that's why I have such an issue with it.

Yea mudding the water like a paid Boeing pr team would do

You would think dudes like this would've learned by now to record their testimony or truth and rmto prevent people from being tempted to kill you. Idiots.

luigi33 posted...

You would think dudes like this would've learned by now to record their testimony or truth and rmto prevent people from being tempted to kill you. Idiots.

I think they should have the option of temporary protective custody too.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Either they killed him or he sacrificed himself in order for the situation get a bigger spotlight.

I refuse to believe that you actually view this as a possibility.

What was the cause of death?

luigi33 posted...

You would think dudes like this would've learned by now to record their testimony or truth and rmto prevent people from being tempted to kill you. Idiots.

He had probably given his testimony and any evidence to his lawyers already.

LeCh0nk posted...

He had probably given his testimony and any evidence to his lawyers already.

He did. The lawsuit is still continuing.

While I would not put it past Boeing or the corporation's lawyers, random people get passionate about random causes.

https://theconversation.com/what-the-boeing-whistleblowers-death-reveals-about-exposing-corporate-wrongdoing-in-north-america-225652

Gunshot wound.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

Lmao. Im just looking at all the angles. The guy has been a whistleblower for quite a while now. Killing him JUST before the testimony makes it suspicious as fuck for Boeing and brings unwanted attention.

Inconceivable!

You're doing Princes Bride levels of overthinking.