Current Events > NY homeowner arrested after trying to remove squatters

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SocialistGamer
03/20/24 7:15:28 AM
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https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1770100444884267072?s=46&t=uvKEJXfVnbA6SQf56M0RJg

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03/20/24 7:15:46 AM
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Fuck squatters

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itcheyness
03/20/24 7:16:18 AM
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I'm sure the New York Post is definitely not lying or misrepresenting anything here...

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:16:52 AM
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Some details would be nice

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BobanMarjanovic
03/20/24 7:18:05 AM
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Squatters are literal scum

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Zikten
03/20/24 7:18:13 AM
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Isn't New York Post basically the Fox News of NYC?
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PeteyParker
03/20/24 7:18:30 AM
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itcheyness posted...
I'm sure the New York Post is definitely not lying or misrepresenting anything here...


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Kaiganeer
03/20/24 7:22:17 AM
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Andaloro claims the ordeal erupted when she started the process of trying to sell the home last month but realized squatters had moved in and brazenly replaced the entire front door and locks.

In New York City, a person can claim squatters rights after just 30 days of living at a property.

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The_Popo
03/20/24 7:34:05 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Some details would be nice

Here is an ABC article on it. Woman inherited her mothers home when she passed away. The bullet points seem to be

  • In NY, squatters rights prevail if they live in a house for just 30days
  • Squatters moved in very recently and could not prove how long theyd lived there when asked for evidence (the story seems to show that they had just moved in very recently)
  • The homeowner did not break into the house, as the front door was open
  • When the homeowner called the police, they asked the squatters to leave since they could not provide proof of residence for 30 days
  • The woman changed the locks on the house (which the squatters had already changed), which is something you cannot do if someone is claiming squatters rights. When the squatters returned with difference police, the homeowner was arrested for changing the locks.
  • One of the squatters is claiming he is leasing the house after signing a contract with a realtor and has been living there for months, and has a lease contract (which he hasnt shown). He wants to be paid back money for repairs he claims he did to the house.
  • This is now going to court over who has the rights to the home, and the process tends to take 20 months to resolve


https://abc7ny.com/amp/squatters-standoff-queens-new-york-city/14540298/

Eyewitness News captured what a growing number of property owners and police are dealing with on a daily basis - a squatter standoff.


"It's not fair that I, as the homeowner, have to be going through this," Adele Andaloro said.


Andaloro inherited her family's home in Flushing, Queens after her parents passed away. She was in the process of selling it when she noticed a problem. Someone changed the entire front door and lock of her home.


"I'm really fearful that these people are going to get away with stealing my home," she said.


She says squatters moved into her home in February and refused to leave.


"By the time someone does their investigation, their work, and their job, it will be over 30 days and this man will still be in my home," she said.


In New York, squatters have rights after 30 days.


When Andaloro recently went to her property, Eyewitness News was there when a woman walked up to the house, unlocked the door, and left. Andaloro decided to enter the property with her daughter and her property deed in hand.


"This is proving everything I said, this is my furniture, these are my curtains," Andaloro said as she entered the main room of her home.


She didn't just find her belongings inside the home. She found two people.


"Who are you sir, get out of my house," she said to one of them sleeping in a bedroom.


Eyewitness News asked one of the men how long he'd been there. He responded by saying, "I moved in two days ago."


The second man refused to answer questions.


The men who Andaloro says are squatting inside her home called the police on her.


"They've called the police on me and I've called the locksmith," she said. "We didn't come in illegally, the door was open."


Police arrived shortly after and started interviewing the men, the neighbors, and asking for documents.


One officer asked the men, "Do you have something that shows you've been here more than 30 days?"


When the men didn't provide documentation, they escorted both off the property and Andaloro had a locksmith change the locks. Before police left, they warned her about changing the locks.


"I may end up in handcuffs today if a man shows up here and says I have illegally evicted him," said Andaloro. "I said 'let him take me to court as I've been told to take him to court' because today I'm not leaving my house."


In New York, it's against the law to turn off the utilities, change the locks, and remove the belongings of someone who claims to be a tenant.


Less than 10 minutes after police left and the locks were changed, the man who claimed to be the one actually leasing the house showed up with another man police already escorted off the property. They pushed through the front door.


"Do you see this this guy just literally broke down my door, broke through myself and my daughter," Andaloro said.


Police showed up a second time and told Andaloro "he can't be kicked out, you have to go to court." They consider it to be a landlord-tenant issue and by law, it has to be handled through housing court and not with police.


Because Andaloro changed the locks, they arrested her for unlawful eviction.


When Eyewitness News asked Brian Rodriguez, the man who claims to have a lease, for documentation he provided none. Instead, he showed bills for work he claimed he had done to the house. He said he moved into the home a few months ago and signed documents with a realtor but wouldn't say who that realtor is.


"You got to go to court and send me to court," said Rodriguez. He said he'll leave "if she pays me my money that I put in the house," said Rodriguez. "Pay me the money and I'll leave or send me to court it's that simple."


It's not that simple. Going through the housing court process takes time.


It takes an average of 20 months for an eviction case to have a resolution in New York City, according to the Rent Stabilization Association.


Andaloro says she now has no choice but to start an eviction filing in landlord-tenant court.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:40:41 AM
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The_Popo posted...
In New York, squatters have rights after 30 days.

I can kind of see the purpose of squatters rights but 30 days seems completely insane.

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PizzaPatty
03/20/24 7:40:46 AM
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F*** Yeah these so called 'squatters' are heroes. Screw landlords they are evil. And it sounds like the landlord is the one in the wrong and is harassing legal residents to the apartment or house. So she deserves to be in jail. I love it when people screw over landlords.
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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:41:59 AM
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PizzaPatty posted...
F*** Yeah these so called 'squatters' are heroes. Screw landlords they are evil. And it sounds like the landlord is the one in the wrong and is harassing legal residents to the apartment or house. So she deserves to be in jail. I love it when people screw over landlords.

Running a false flag operation eh?

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:44:06 AM
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She's not even a landlord though.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:46:15 AM
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Squatters rights feels like a super weird concept

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
03/20/24 7:46:25 AM
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PizzaPatty posted...
F*** Yeah these so called 'squatters' are heroes. Screw landlords they are evil. And it sounds like the landlord is the one in the wrong and is harassing legal residents to the apartment or house. So she deserves to be in jail. I love it when people screw over landlords.
I hope you aren't serious. It was her mom's house that she inherited and was going to sell.

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JuanCarlos1
03/20/24 7:47:17 AM
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The squatters have evolved...they know the law and how it protects them. But seriously fuck them. Why are squatter rights a thing. Is your name on the deed? Theres no rent contract? Then gtfo.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:47:54 AM
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
I hope you aren't serious. It was her mom's house that she inherited and was going to sell.

Theyre running a false flag straw man gimmick to try and discredit those of us who are anti-exorbitant rent set by shitty landlords by exaggerating that to yeah we hate landlords/home owners - we dont distinguish the two - and they deserve anything they get no matter how unreasonable!

Its no different to when Trumpers used to say we got him this time guys!

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LSGW_Zephyra
03/20/24 7:50:32 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
I can kind of see the purpose of squatters rights but 30 days seems completely insane.

It's so they can find adequate places to live. Basically you treat them like a tennant. Even though the don't pay, you still have to go through the eviction process.

BobanMarjanovic posted...
Squatters are literal scum

Fuck poor people m I rite?

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:50:36 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Squatters rights feels like a super weird concept

I think one of the general ideas is that you don't want abandoned property to just sit there and waste.

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s0nicfan
03/20/24 7:51:30 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Fuck poor people m I rite?

Squatters, yea. You're not immune to being a piece of shit just because you're also poor.

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 7:51:43 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
I think one of the general ideas is that you don't want abandoned property to just sit there and waste.

I guess thats logical in theory, especially with a homeless issue.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:52:04 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Fuck poor people m I rite?

Squatters can totally fuck over poor people. Hence why they are scum.

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LSGW_Zephyra
03/20/24 7:55:12 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Squatters can totally fuck over poor people. Hence why they are scum.

How? Squatters don't generally occupy your current residence. It's always a second home. In this case, a home someone inherited. Yeah it sucks for that person for a bit, but they will be fine, they inherited a fucking house

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ScazarMeltex
03/20/24 7:56:25 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Squatters can totally fuck over poor people. Hence why they are scum.
What poor person has a second home that they don't visit or mantain long enough for squatters to take over?

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:57:54 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
How? Squatters don't generally occupy your current residence. It's always a second home. In this case, a home someone inherited. Yeah it sucks for that person for a bit, but they will be fine, they inherited a fucking house

You know nothing about the circumstances of this person.

She might need to sell that house to pay for medical expenses for all we know.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 7:59:34 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
What poor person has a second home that they don't visit or mantain long enough for squatters to take over?

It was 30 days lmfao

Actually, it might have been less than that going by the news stories.

Literally mom dies, takes a few weeks to carry out wake/funeral/etc., and bam squatters are already there and your fucked.

Needed that money for funeral and medical expenses? Nope get fucked.

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Zikten
03/20/24 8:00:25 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Yeah it sucks for that person for a bit, but they will be fine, they inherited a fucking house
How does inheriting a house help them if it gets stolen?
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Ricemills
03/20/24 8:01:28 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Squatters rights feels like a super weird concept

To combat the real estate mafia.


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RamenNoodles
03/20/24 8:01:47 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
What poor person has a second home that they don't visit or mantain long enough for squatters to take over?
Except the past few years this has been happening to poor people away for a week on vacation or visiting family over the holidays or even just being in a hospital. They get home and suddenly they have no home and are forced to live somewhere else even though they cant afford it and dont have access to their clothes and personal belongings, sometimes for years,

also many times recently people buying their first home, the weeks it takes over foreclosing people move in and the person who bought it basically lost all rights, even holding the deed they literally never get one day in their house for years, they must literally pay a mortgage on house they never even get to set one foot in snd are forced to move somewhere else. Often times making them lose the house because they cant pay a mortgage and rent and lawyer fees.
yet squatters stay rent free for many months to years. Its becoming a common thing people are taking advantage of. People are pure scum
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LSGW_Zephyra
03/20/24 8:04:54 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
You know nothing about the circumstances of this person.

Neither do you. She might own multiple houses

How does inheriting a house help them if it gets stolen?

It won't. It'll go through courts and the tenants will be evicted long before they can claim ownership. In the mean time it's likely not costing her anything when someone else takes over.


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RamenNoodles
03/20/24 8:06:37 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Neither do you. She might own multiple houses

It won't. It'll go through courts and the tenants will be evicted long before they can claim ownership. In the mean time it's likely not costing her anything when someone else takes over.
She maybe has to pay mortgage, utilities and taxes plus more. If she turns off the utilities she can be arrested again.
So yes shed still have to take extra expenses. Plus its not like the squatters will pay her absolutely any of it back
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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 8:06:43 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Neither do you. She might own multiple houses

You're the one that made the assumption that she was would be fine you fucking bozo

This is the dumbest hill to die on but I'm going to enjoy watching it

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Trumble
03/20/24 8:07:35 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
I can kind of see the purpose of squatters rights but 30 days seems completely insane.
This. If it's a couple of years, fair game, but 30 days is ridiculous.

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Shadow_Don
03/20/24 8:08:35 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
It'll go through courts

not costing her anything

Lmfao what is this brain rot?

Dude go to the doctor and get your head scanned like today

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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 8:09:31 AM
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Apparently squatter's rights are a thing in Western Australia but they're pretty limited.

I guess it's supposed to be similar to the law that abandoned property can become yours if not claimed within a certain amount of time, and the idea is that if someone manages to squat on your property for so long without you calling the cops or even noticing you're essentially "surrendering" it to them.

Not that I'm saying I agree or disagree, that's just my understanding of the concept.

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2Pacavelli
03/20/24 8:10:18 AM
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Theft is not right. These squatters need to stop being bums and get their own
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Dark_Arbron
03/20/24 8:11:35 AM
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2Pacavelli posted...
Theft is not right. These squatters need to stop being bums and get their own

That's why I asked for details earlier on in the topic. I first guessed it could have been a case of the woman deciding to be shitty about rent and the squatters were tenants facing eviction but knew that with nowhere to go they could literally freeze to death on the street. That situation would at least be sympathetic.

This one is not.

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Ricemills
03/20/24 8:15:18 AM
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So how long was the property abandoned anyway?

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Sputnik1337
03/20/24 8:15:57 AM
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The_Popo posted...
"You got to go to court and send me to court," said Rodriguez. He said he'll leave "if she pays me my money that I put in the house," said Rodriguez. "Pay me the money and I'll leave or send me to court it's that simple."
Oh so its basically an extortion racket.

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Southernfatman
03/20/24 8:16:41 AM
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Kinda crazy how some laws benefit squatters so much here in America of all places and how protected they are against retaliation by homeowners. I imagine it depends on the state though and I doubt this happens as much in Castle Doctrine states. This would be different if this was some derelict property that was just sitting there for years and years and years with nothing being done to it. 30 days is insane and reeks of bleeding heartism.

This is the New York Post though.

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St0rmFury
03/20/24 8:18:30 AM
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Yeah, about the same with what I feel too. The squatters are just a symptom of a bigger problem.

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2Pacavelli
03/20/24 8:19:48 AM
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Sputnik1337 posted...
Oh so its basically an extortion racket.

There was a time when my uncle tried to take advantage of tactics like this with my Mother when he stayed at our home and my Mother wanted him to leave. Eventually he left in his own but I always remembered how people in NYC could abuse that 30 day rule and eventually basically try to take over your home

I do forgive my uncle though he's grown and changed a lot for the better over time. But this is a lesson I learned in what people are capable of doing when they want or feel like they need something. Especially in NYC
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ironman2009
03/20/24 8:21:21 AM
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Fuck squatters


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texanfan27
03/20/24 8:35:27 AM
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Squatters right are bullshit agreed. Its trespassing and they should been removed, heck why did this woman get arrested?

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Tyranthraxus
03/20/24 8:41:27 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
What poor person has a second home that they don't visit or mantain long enough for squatters to take over?

  1. Their mom just died. It was her house.
  2. They weren't there for more than 2 days. Don't even act you have never taken a vacation away from home for more than 2 days.

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LSGW_Zephyra
03/20/24 8:46:58 AM
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Lots of misdirected anger here. If you want to be mad at how slow bureaucracy is, or the state of houselessness, fine. But being mad at a person who is just trying to survive till tomorrow is pointless. You might not like the laws and they can suck for people, but it prevents a much greater injustice

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Drrobotniks
03/20/24 8:50:08 AM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Lots of misdirected anger here. If you want to be mad at how slow bureaucracy is, or the state of houselessness, fine. But being mad at a person who is just trying to survive till tomorrow is pointless. You might not like the laws and they can suck for people, but it prevents a much greater injustice
I like how you couldnt respond to any of them meaningfully

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Robot2600
03/20/24 8:51:28 AM
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id pay that random guy before i'd pay a lawyer for sure.

even if he wants 5000 dollars thats less than lawyers and 20 months of no rent

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LonelyStoner
03/20/24 8:51:31 AM
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Kaiganeer posted...
Andaloro claims the ordeal erupted when she started the process of trying to sell the home last month but realized squatters had moved in and brazenly replaced the entire front door and locks.

In New York City, a person can claim squatters rights after just 30 days of living at a property.

how the fuck is this a thing lmao
I will never understand. It encourages breaking and entering.

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