Current Events > It sad almost nothing came from BLM protest.

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ProfOaksAide posted...

Vote for your candidate in the primaries

Or even run yourself!

Millenials seem to want to solve all of our problems anyway except through governance

While I agree, it won't solve anything.
I do think being involved in local politics is interesting though.
Personally, I met up with someone from Reddit that lives in my city and we're trying to get a meeting with our local council member regarding housing policies in the city. I'm really interested in where this goes and what all goes into governance at the local level.

ProfOaksAide posted...

Vote for your candidate in the primaries

Or even run yourself!

Millenials seem to want to solve all of our problems anyway except through governance

Completely useless and utterly insulting.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

The only way change will ever actually be enacted is when the foundations of the country are so weakened that they have trouble doing this, which of course necessitates the state being more violent against an increasingly angry populace.

Voting is totally useless and not feasible but violent revolution (with videos essayists and tarot card readers on your team lmfao) can totally work. Yea good luck with that brother.

Shadow_Don posted...

Voting is totally useless and not feasible but violent revolution (with videos essayists and tarot card readers on your team lmfao) can totally work. Yea good luck with that brother.

I'm not the one writing history.

ProfOaksAide posted...

Vote for your candidate in the primaries

Or even run yourself!

Millenials seem to want to solve all of our problems anyway except through governance

I don't have the option to do that in America. As far as voting here goes, these days I outright won't vote for either major party (I have voted for the center-left one in the past). I tend to swing between left and right, but I always vote one of the minor parties on the respective side.

I don't think anything will change until we get rid of Qualified Immunity for cops

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Completely useless and utterly insulting.

Nope

You wont change anything without power. If you want things to change, seize power. Or else youre literally useless

ProfOaksAide posted...

Nope

You wont change anything without power. If you want things to change, seize power. Or else youre literally useless

Seizing power is what I'm saying people should do, you just want them to capitulate. Lmao fake.

ProfOaksAide posted...

If you want things to change, seize power.

Thats literally what they are advocating for.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Seizing power is what I'm saying people should do, you just want them to capitulate. Lmao fake.

So you want people to sieze power from the goverment?

runewalshPSiv posted...

So you want people to sieze power from the goverment?

Of course, should the people not have power of the government? What a ridiculous question.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Of course, should the people not have power of the government? What a ridiculous question.

Hmm sounds like treason and just like what maga tried to do on January 6th.

runewalshPSiv posted...

Hmm sounds like treason and just like what maga tried to do on January 6th.

No it doesn't.

runewalshPSiv posted...

Hmm sounds like treason and just like what maga tried to do on January 6th.

Do you think the French Revolution and January 6th were the same thing?

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

No it doesn't.

It's literally the same thing just done for different reasons.

runewalshPSiv posted...

It's literally the same thing just done for different reasons.

If you are finished, then I bid you adieu.

ClayGuida posted...

Do you think the French Revolution and January 6th were the same thing?

No and the conditions that led to the French revolution are certainly not the conditions we face.

runewalshPSiv posted...

No and the conditions that led to the French revolution are certainly not the conditions we face.

What do you believe those conditions are compared to the conditions we face?

Umbreon posted...

What do you believe those conditions are compared to the conditions we face?

Guy believes left wing protest is the same as January 6, he doesn't actually care about conditions.

Shadow_Don posted...

Thats literally what they are advocating for.

Then theyre voting?

Because voter turn out statistics dont suggest so

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Guy believes left wing protest is the same as January 6, he doesn't actually care about conditions.

Oh I know.

I just want his words on the table.

Seems like y'all are just talking past one another

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Guy believes left wing protest is the same as January 6, he doesn't actually care about conditions.

I was comparing siezing power from the government as comparable to what maga tried on January 6th.

NoMeLx22x posted...

Vote harder!

To be fair... we've never really tried it. It's only now that the youth are reliably turning up, and how long will that last? Will it take for just getting something like Roe back before people go back into their disillusioned contentment? Yes, people like Hillary suck, but there had been many instances of "Hillary vs Donnie" battles that people just sat back and didn't bother with and that slowly grew up the rights forces to where they are now.

runewalshPSiv posted...

I was comparing siezing power from the government as comparable to what maga tried on January 6th.

And thinking those two things are at all comparable shows how little you actually care about people's grievances or democracy in general.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

And thinking those two things are at all comparable shows how little you actually care about people's grievances or democracy in general.

Oh I get it you're one of those people.

Heineken14 posted...

To be fair... we've never really tried it. It's only now that the youth are reliably turning up, and how long will that last? Will it take for just getting something like Roe back before people go back into their disillusioned contentment? Yes, people like Hillary suck, but there had been many instances of "Hillary vs Donnie" battles that people just sat back and didn't bother with and that slowly grew up the rights forces to where they are now.

2020 was the highest turnout ever and still only 66%. Which is horrendous. Local elections are even worse, much worse. Like single digit in many places. And many other places literally have uncontested elections.

When we got 80-90%+ turnout and the winning politicians still dont get elected, then we can talk about it being useless. Until then the revolutionary liberals come across as just as delusional and self centered as the MAGA losers

runewalshPSiv posted...

Oh I get it you're one of those people.

Yeah, I'm one of those people being fucked by your shitty ass government. Voting is a suckers game and the country always gets worse no matter who you vote for. Broken ass shit country.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Yeah, I'm one of those people being fucked by your shitty ass government. Voting is a suckers game and the country always gets worse no matter who you vote for. Broken ass shit country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ

Gritty posted...

Yeah, I felt like it was kind of doom from the start because it really was more of just a protest and it was an actual like political movement. It really didnt have like a central organization and then I remember reading an article when all this was going down and they mentioned how the people that initially started. The BLM movement got like forced out by other players, and those are the ones who eventually corrupted it.

I also dont think the whole like defunding. The police thing works like it. It just didnt reach enough people and it scared too many people. I dont honestly think thats the answer either. I think the answer is having not a national as a police force but like a nationalized standard and having a Database still doesnt allow these cops to just move from one department to another and in general, just having better accountability better people and higher training standards. in California Theres literally police departments that have less fucking Academy training, then beauticians in order to get licensed.

but at the same time, policing in this country literally was created out of slavery, so the entire institutions been corrupted from its inception, so.

Yeah I mean BLM had no clear goal or agenda

Which meant it was doomed to fail

For example there is no legislation change that would have ended the movement

The strength is that means the movement will never die

the weakness is it means the movement will never accomplish any major change

Same as occupy wall street

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Yeah, I'm one of those people being fucked by your shitty ass government. Voting is a suckers game and the country always gets worse no matter who you vote for. Broken ass shit country.

If you don't like it there are plenty of other countries you could move to that are more in line with how you think society should be.

runewalshPSiv posted...

If you don't like it there are plenty of other countries you could move to that are more in line with how you think society should be.

Oh, you're done? What a shame. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, darlin'.

More virulent and aggressive racism from conservatives came of it

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Oh, you're done? What a shame. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, darlin'.

Who said anything about being done?

Umbreon posted...

What do you believe those conditions are compared to the conditions we face?

Dodging this question shows he isn't here for honest discussion.

runewalshPSiv posted...

Who said anything about being done?

Pretty sure you just admitted that you don't actually give a shit, so I repeat myself: byebye.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Yeah, I'm one of those people being fucked by your shitty ass government. Voting is a suckers game and the country always gets worse no matter who you vote for. Broken ass shit country.

Voting is not a suckers game and the country has improved in social and economic ways over the past decades

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5fc39249.jpg

And yeah, voting works. Not as quickly or effectively as we'd like, but it works.

If not, Republican politicians wouldn't be trying to make it so hard to do it.

runewalshPSiv posted...

If you don't like it there are plenty of other countries you could move to that are more in line with how you think society should be.

Yeah, why bother trying to improve this one. /s

Umbreon posted...

And yeah, voting works. Not as quickly or effectively as we'd like, but it works.

If not, Republican politicians wouldn't be trying to make it so hard to do it.

That's why voter suppression is their goal. If you keep voting on the left. You might form a splinter on the left side hard enough that a third party could be formed. But this goes against the agenda of the rich... So it's really hard to gather the masses to do it. To destruction we go.

Umbreon posted...

Dodging this question shows he isn't here for honest discussion.

No, I'm just not trying to type a wall of text. Since you are unable to use Google here you go, https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution

emblem-man posted...

Voting is not a suckers game and the country has improved in social and economic ways over the past decades

Everything is getting worse and you don't want to face up to that. I have nothing but contempt for everything you stand for.

runewalshPSiv posted...

No, I'm just not trying to type a wall of text. Since you are unable to use Google here you go, https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution

Never asked for a wall of text. I was asking you to explain the conditions in your own words.

If you are incapable of doing that, then what are you doing here?

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Everything is getting worse and you don't want to face up to that. I have nothing but contempt for everything you stand for.

What do I stand for?

Something came of it in New York at least where the police have been in tantrum mode and refuse to fulfill their basic responsibilities

emblem-man posted...

What do I stand for?

He's a miserable person that hates those that don't fall in line with how he thinks. Don't waste your time with him like I did.

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