Board 8 > Pokemon of the Year Hub Topic 2: Weak division. [PotY]

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Zigzagoon
04/28/24 11:26:42 PM
#401:


I'm pretty sure it'd be unpopular even if Gardevoir didn't exist.

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04/29/24 1:06:10 AM
#402:


Who could care about Gothitelle when Reuniclus was introduced right next to it?

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MZero
04/29/24 4:20:10 AM
#403:


mnk posted...
Who could care about Gothitelle when Reuniclus was introduced right next to it?

Here is an individual with exquisite taste

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AriaOfBolo
04/30/24 1:17:32 PM
#404:


D48: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80759215
Two of my top 10 in the same division :D;;

Tomorrow starts the 11-mon divisions, which means the round's almost over!

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andylt
04/30/24 2:10:43 PM
#405:


We should be able to guarantee some 8th place survivors at this point, no?
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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 1:59:23 PM
#406:


D49: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80760025

Remember that for the second division and all future divisions, 9th place is the one that gets in the wildcard race, and 10th and 11th are eliminated outright!

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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 2:11:16 PM
#407:


TB:
Delphox > Krabby
Dugtrio > Dipplin
Staryu > Azumarill
Persian > Genesect
Minior > Masquerain

andylt posted...
We should be able to guarantee some 8th place survivors at this point, no?

Once we get results, yes. There are 12 untallied divisions and 11 spots, but some of those are finished if you just super want to count them yourself. The score to have a chance is -12.

Tangela -5
Thievul -7
Lickitung -9
Poltchageist -9
Lairon -10
Lillipup -10
Electrode -11
Hattrem -11
Tapu Lele -12
Sandy Shocks -12
Furfrou -12

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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 2:16:53 PM
#408:


(....with the way seeding works, though, the wild card race is essentially for bragging rights >_> They'll get into round 2, but then get matched up against stuff that won divisions with scores in the mid +50s or thereabouts <_< so like picture two of those guys against a team of Snorlax and Growlithe)

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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 2:17:37 PM
#409:


also, Cubone probably getting the #1 rank for this round is extremely amusing to me

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andylt
05/01/24 3:51:12 PM
#410:


I thought the division winners got byes?

Either way, I believe in the underdogs! Surely Lairon and Thievul can take down some gen 1 giants >_>
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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 3:58:30 PM
#411:


andylt posted...
I thought the division winners got byes?

just the top 26 of em

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Paratroopa1
05/01/24 4:57:29 PM
#412:


Sorry, I know I'm a day or two behind on results btw, they're coming soon
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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 5:16:22 PM
#413:


I would never miss a day on this, my own project! ('s all good, I'm still just glad I ain't gotta do it myself >_>)

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stafoc
05/01/24 5:38:08 PM
#414:


AriaOfBolo posted...
also, Cubone probably getting the #1 rank for this round is extremely amusing to me

It definitely isn't something I would have predicted, but it does kinda make sense. It was by far the strongest Pokemon in a fairly weak division, and it was in one of the first rounds when the votals are naturally going to be higher.

That said, I wonder if a round 2 bye may end up kinda being a disadvantage for certain Pokemon. I assume they won't be eligible for a round 3 bye, which will definitely be the harder round to survive, when they probably would have crushed their round 2 opponents. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with an overseeded round 1 bye that gets a bad draw and ends up eliminated in round 3.

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AriaOfBolo
05/01/24 5:54:05 PM
#415:


I hadn't thought of it that way but you're right!

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Paratroopa1
05/02/24 7:52:42 AM
#416:


Whirlpool Division
35 Eevee
32 Kabutops
28 Skarmory
15 Kingdra
10 Axew
7 Palossand
-5 Sudowoodo
-30 Elekid
-46 Gorebyss (Tiebreaker?)
-46 Castform (Tiebreaker?)

String Shot Division
32 Goodra
31 Jellicent
27 Goomy
2 Gourgeist
-1 Skorupi
-2 Carnivine
-12 Hakamo-o
-13 Electrike
-29 Vanillite
-35 Stonjourner

Star of the Day: Jellicent
Honestly if you asked me to guess I would have assumed Jellicent would be competing to not be eliminated, and it nearly topped Goodra for the division.

Dud of the Day: Electrike
I dunno who to give this to today. I'm surprised that Electrike and Hakamo-o were duking it out to not be eliminated here - I figured they would both be fine.
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AriaOfBolo
05/02/24 8:45:37 AM
#417:


Eevee's one that I would expect to contend to win the whole thing, but +35 is not grand champion material I think

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Johnbobb
05/02/24 10:11:15 AM
#418:


I've never understood the Castform hate at all

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andylt
05/02/24 10:56:06 AM
#419:


AriaOfBolo posted...
Eevee's one that I would expect to contend to win the whole thing, but +35 is not grand champion material I think
I think Eevee is a fair amount weaker than most of its evos.

I'm surprised Elekid did so poorly, I thought it was well-regarded as far as babies go. The babies have not done well!

14 Riolu
14 Togepi
7 Pichu
-16 Munchlax
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-21 Mantyke
-24 Azurill
-30 Elekid
-31 Wynaut
-34 Chingling
-39 Tyrogue
-41 Budew
-42 Cleffa
-46 Bonsly
-57 Toxel
-60 Magby
-63 Happiny
-66 Igglybuff
-78 Smoochum

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MZero
05/02/24 11:06:43 AM
#420:


Johnbobb posted...
I've never understood the Castform hate at all

balls

I like it

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mnk
05/02/24 11:34:07 AM
#421:


Oh no, poor Vanillite and Stonjourner. :(

And Gorebyss. :(

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skulltrumpets
05/02/24 12:45:32 PM
#422:


Can't speak for anyone else, but for me, the babies I like have had tough draws
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AriaOfBolo
05/02/24 10:40:28 PM
#423:


D50: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80761068

TB: Castform > Gorebyss, I feel like both deserve better

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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 5:13:32 AM
#424:


Get ready for the most insane results of the contest:

Thousand Arrows Division
39 Dubwool
35 Wattrel
34 Abra
14 Stunfisk
9 Geodude
-3 Pheromosa
-6 Nincada
-17 Arrokuda
-44 Karrablast
-61 Blipbug

Weather Ball Division
46 Sableye
40 Rapidash
3 Machamp (Tiebreaker?)
3 Drakloak (Tiebreaker?)
-13 Diancie
-14 Shuppet (Tiebreaker?)
-14 Relicanth (Tiebreaker?)
-16 Amaura
-17 Petilil
-18 Heatran

Incredibly close votes here - any of these six things could have gotten eliminated had any one person cast their vote differently. Heatran has by far the best lowest score in any division by a wide margin.

Star of the Day: Sableye
I could give it to Dubwool or Wattrel as well, who put up unexpectedly strong performances (I was mistaken in not giving Kilowattrel start of the day before) but I think Sableye gets it with a winning performance over Rapidash. Big win.

Dud of the Day: Drakloak
Drakloak was a top 10 performer in the gen 8 rankings so it barely scraping above positive digits here with very little competition has me baffled. This is one of the biggest duds of the contest imo. Pretty much everything in this division was a dud besides Sableye and Rapidash though.

Fun fact: Stunfisk had 18 positive votes, 14 negative votes, and only 9 neutral votes. You probably feel one way or another about Stunfisk!
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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 7:07:07 AM
#426:


TB
Drakloak > Machamp
Shuppet > Relicanth

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mnk
05/03/24 1:17:36 PM
#427:


Thank you for not killing Shuppet, everyone.

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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 2:55:43 PM
#428:


If I have done my google sheets-fu and math correctly, mons in bold have clinched!

Bye race:
Cubone 85
Volcarona 80
Tyranitar 76
Krookodile 75
Arcanine 74
Entei 71
Heracross 70
Dragapult 70
Hawlucha 69
Houndoom 69
Galvantula 69
Raichu 69
Spheal 69
Scyther 68
Haunter 68
Mamoswine 68
Scizor 67
Jolteon 66
Joltik 65
Swampert 65
Luxray 65
Blastoise 62
Cyndaquil 62
Crobat 62
Golisopod 60
Raikou 58
Gengar 58
Mimikyu 58

Wild card race:
Tangela -5
Thievul -7
Lickitung -9
Poltchageist -9
Lairon -10
Lillipup -10
Electrode -11
Hattrem -11
Tapu Lele -12
Sandy Shocks -12
Furfrou -12

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NBIceman
05/03/24 3:02:26 PM
#429:


Any big surprises in that group? I personally didn't realize Dragapult, Mamoswine, and Spheal were that popular.

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KommunistKoala
05/03/24 3:06:55 PM
#430:


Was Golisopod in the weakest group ever or do people actually like it

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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 3:09:36 PM
#431:


it looks like a strong division to me (Zapdos, Toucannon, and Tauros were the other top contenders) but I have been clinically proven to not know what I'm talking about

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Bane_Of_Despair
05/03/24 5:37:34 PM
#432:


People here like Volcarona huh. And I've always thought Heracross, Hawlucha and Galvantula are overrated but eh. At least Krookodile is where he should be. And Spheal and Haunter!

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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 5:59:26 PM
#433:


It is important to keep in mind that the list is weighted quite heavily by the fact that votals dropped by about 10 over the course of the contest
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skulltrumpets
05/03/24 6:13:17 PM
#434:


Honestly none of these are that surprising to me. There's a few ones that are slightly head scratchy, but not "wait people actually like this guy" head scratchy.

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mnk
05/03/24 7:16:45 PM
#435:


How weak was Entei's division? It getting 71 is the biggest surprise for me.

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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 8:14:10 PM
#436:


It beat Litten, Vlieplume, and Meloetta.

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Bane_Of_Despair
05/03/24 8:18:45 PM
#437:


Entei is the best of the three legendary dogs so good on him

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Brayze_II
05/03/24 8:23:44 PM
#438:


mnk posted...
How weak was Entei's division? It getting 71 is the biggest surprise for me.
Really weak imo

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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 10:08:34 PM
#439:


D51: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80761792
Last one of Round 1! Earlier it popped into my head that this could plausibly be the very last time this round format is ever used on B8, which is a weird thing to get sad about but I sure did

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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 10:14:11 PM
#440:


I am vaguely terrified thinking of how I'm going to wrangle a round 2 bracket out of this spreadsheet, but we'll figure it out

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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 10:23:13 PM
#441:


I am vaguely terrified of vote counting round 2
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ZenOfThunder
05/03/24 10:26:40 PM
#442:


I am vaguely terrified, just in general

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mnk
05/03/24 10:37:24 PM
#443:


Life is really scary.

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AriaOfBolo
05/03/24 10:44:33 PM
#444:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I am vaguely terrified of vote counting round 2

I'd think it'd be easier? no math, at least

ZenOfThunder posted...
I am vaguely terrified, just in general

yeah!!

mnk posted...
Life is really scary.


yeah!!!

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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 11:13:25 PM
#445:


AriaOfBolo posted...


I'd think it'd be easier? no math, at least
I don't do any math, I do copy and pasting and let the spreadsheet do everything. the harder something is to copy and paste into a spreadsheet the more work it'll be for me
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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 11:36:43 PM
#446:


Metronome Division
41 Bulbasaur
20 Magnezone
19 Tinkaton
16 Infernape
2 Bayleef
1 Larvitar
-7 Hippowdon
-8 Mudsdale
-22 Bombirdier
-62 Goldeen

Blazing Torque Division
72 Metagross
34 Delibird
5 Sobble (Tiebreaker?)
5 Tirtouga (Tiebreaker?)
3 Venonat
2 Iron Bundle
-11 Heatmor
-15 Tangrowth
-23 Magmortar
-72 Simipour

Star of the Day: Metagross
No doubter on this one. It's been a while since we've had a 70+ point performance, and Metagross had no negative votes. Looks like a true contender.

Dud of the Day: Iron Bundle
I thought this would be closer than it was. People have made it pretty clear which version of Delibird they prefer.

lol Simipour
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Leafeon13N
05/03/24 11:36:53 PM
#447:


I glare suspiciously at the Salazzle +3s.
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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 11:37:58 PM
#448:


btw, I interpreted a +2 Metagross in Metronome division as a vote for Magnezone and it did affect placement. I don't like doing this but I did not want to throw out the entire ballot and no other possibility really made sense
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Paratroopa1
05/03/24 11:38:51 PM
#449:


Leafeon13N posted...
I glare suspiciously at the Salazzle +3s.
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