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Heineken14 04/03/24 4:50:53 PM #400:	Trumble posted... The reality is that you are completely willing to turn a blind eye to Biden supporting an ongoing genocide, and support him despite it. Am I? Well shit. What else do I believe? This may be easy not having to think and just have someone else tell me. Trumble posted... You're not willing to put any pressure on him to stop supporting it. Again, am I? Trumble posted... You just want people to ignore the fact that he supports it and vote for him anyway. Do I? I'm finding out a lot about myself today! --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714333] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>The reality is that you are completely willing to turn a blind eye to Biden supporting an ongoing genocide, and support him despite it.</quote>Am I? Well shit. What else do I believe? This may be easy not having to think and just have someone else tell me.Trumble posted... </cite><quote>You're not willing to put any pressure on him to stop supporting it.</quote>Again, am I?Trumble posted... </cite><quote>You just want people to ignore the fact that he supports it and vote for him anyway.</quote>Do I? I'm finding out a lot about myself today! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:51:14 PM #401:	Trumble posted... Well, the wording was "a random CEman", so ask RNGesus. We're not going to get our third candidate that can take down both Biden and Trump with that attitude. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979714337] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Well, the wording was "a random CEman", so ask RNGesus.</quote>We're not going to get our third candidate that can take down both Biden and Trump with that attitude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:51:41 PM #402:	Heineken14 posted... Am I? Well shit. What else do I believe? This may be easy not having to think and just have someone else tell me. Again, am I? Do I? I'm finding out a lot about myself today! You could have learnt all this without me pointing it out for you simply by reading your own posts. Which in general is a smart thing to do before actually posting them. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714346] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>Am I? Well shit. What else do I believe? This may be easy not having to think and just have someone else tell me.Again, am I?Do I? I'm finding out a lot about myself today!</quote>You could have learnt all this without me pointing it out for you simply by reading your own posts. Which in general is a smart thing to do before actually posting them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 4:53:31 PM #403:	Trumble posted... You could have learnt all this without me pointing it out for you simply by reading your own posts. I have been. I've been literally the one posting them! You're the one telling me shit based on things outside of those posts that you say happened. What am I making for dinner tomorrow? Trumble posted... Which in general is a smart thing to do before actually posting them. I mean, you seem to know more about me than I do. Can you just make my posts for me? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714367] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>You could have learnt all this without me pointing it out for you simply by reading your own posts.</quote>I have been. I've been literally the one posting them! You're the one telling me shit based on things outside of those posts that you say happened. What am I making for dinner tomorrow?Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Which in general is a smart thing to do before actually posting them.</quote>I mean, you seem to know more about me than I do. Can you just make my posts for me? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 4:53:35 PM #404:	ButteryMales posted... So you agree Biden is a fascist? If you think being complicit in genocide is the only singular reason that makes someone a fascist, then under your specific parameters, sure. But if you choose to include, you know, the rest of the stuff. Unchecked power balance. Authoritarianism. Carte Blanche paramilitaristic police force. Persecution of political allies. General suffering of their constituents, then, no. He isn't. You know that too, but are allergic to good faith posting. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714370] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>So you agree Biden is a fascist?</quote>If you think being complicit in genocide is the only singular reason that makes someone a fascist, then under your specific parameters, sure.But if you choose to include, you know, the rest of the stuff. Unchecked power balance. Authoritarianism. Carte Blanche paramilitaristic police force. Persecution of political allies. General suffering of their constituents, then, no. He isn't. You know that too, but are allergic to good faith posting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 4:53:51 PM #405:	Heineken14 posted... There's a lot of posts I haven't read in this topic, but has anyone argued that genocide is a good thing? Maybe I missed it or it was someone I have/has me blocked? The whole "supporting the lesser genocide" in #206 and #235 sure comes close. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714377] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>There's a lot of posts I haven't read in this topic, but has anyone argued that genocide is a good thing? Maybe I missed it or it was someone I have/has me blocked?</quote>The whole "supporting the lesser genocide" in #206 and #235 sure comes close. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/03/24 4:54:46 PM #406:	Hornezz posted... The whole "supporting the lesser genocide" in #206 and #235 sure comes close. Thats a stretch and a half <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979714394] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>The whole "supporting the lesser genocide" in #206 and #235 sure comes close.</quote>Thats a stretch and a half </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 4:55:10 PM #407:	Rika_Furude posted... Thats a stretch and a half That's his MO --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714404] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Thats a stretch and a half</quote>That's his MO </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 4:55:49 PM #408:	Rika_Furude posted... Thats a stretch and a half Do you support the lesser genocide by voting for Biden? re: Rika_Furude posted... Your actions speak louder than your words. Prove you support the lesser genocide by voting for Biden. If you dont, you prove you support the worse genocide. Thats all there is to it --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714412] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Thats a stretch and a half</quote>Do you support the lesser genocide by voting for Biden?re:Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>Your actions speak louder than your words. Prove you support the lesser genocide by voting for Biden. If you dont, you prove you support the worse genocide. Thats all there is to it</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/03/24 4:56:05 PM #409:	AdviceMan posted... "Please get Joe Biden elected so we can go back to ignoring the genocide of your people. If Trump gets elected, then we're going to suffer as well, and you have a moral duty to help us even if we won't help you." There's also that whole "Republicans have outright said they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot" thing that a lot of you don't seem to understand. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979714415] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>AdviceMan posted... </cite><quote>"Please get Joe Biden elected so we can go back to ignoring the genocide of your people. If Trump gets elected, then we're going to suffer as well, and you have a moral duty to help us even if we won't help you."</quote>There's also that whole "Republicans have outright said they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot" thing that a lot of you don't seem to understand. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 4:56:30 PM #410:	Still no feasible suggestions given in this topic from people who insist they just can't vote Biden. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979714429] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Still no feasible suggestions given in this topic from people who insist they just can't vote Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/03/24 4:57:44 PM #411:	Hornezz posted... Do you support the lesser genocide by voting for Biden? re: I suggest voting for the lesser evil as opposed to supporting the greater evil. You dont get to twist that into a different meaning, troll <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979714445] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Do you support the lesser genocide by voting for Biden?re:</quote>I suggest voting for the lesser evil as opposed to supporting the greater evil. You dont get to twist that into a different meaning, troll </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 04/03/24 4:57:54 PM #412:	Hornezz posted... I like how you confirmed my comment about being stuck in the Trump-bad-loop. I respectfully ask you to take the next step in logic. Assuming preventing a Trump win is the at the utmost importance: * Is Biden's handling of the Gaza conflict actually helping that goal? * Is the approach you, and so many other supporters ITT have, actually helping that goal? The threats of a Trump presidency are completely hollow if what you're defending is not doing anything to prevent it. I'm voting for the person who isn't Trump. That is how I'm preventing a Trump presidency. Biden doesn't have to do anything for me because Trump is a bigger threat and he is why I'm voting Biden. You could replace Biden with literally anyone or anything that isn't as bad as Trump, and I will vote them in for that reason. I am not voting because I support Biden or like Biden --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:979714449] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>I like how you confirmed my comment about being stuck in the Trump-bad-loop.I respectfully ask you to take the next step in logic.Assuming preventing a Trump win is the at the utmost importance:* Is Biden's handling of the Gaza conflict actually helping that goal?* Is the approach you, and so many other supporters ITT have, actually helping that goal?The threats of a Trump presidency are completely hollow if what you're defending is not doing anything to prevent it.</quote>I'm voting for the person who isn't Trump. That is how I'm preventing a Trump presidency. Biden doesn't have to do anything for me because Trump is a bigger threat and he is why I'm voting Biden. You could replace Biden with literally anyone or anything that isn't as bad as Trump, and I will vote them in for that reason. I am not voting because I support Biden or like Biden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 4:59:15 PM #413:	DrizztLink posted... There's also that whole "Republicans have outright said they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot" thing that a lot of you don't seem to understand. No, we definitely understand it, and it's why we don't support Republicans either. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714470] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>There's also that whole "Republicans have outright said they want to turn Gaza into a parking lot" thing that a lot of you don't seem to understand.</quote>No, we definitely understand it, and it's why we don't support Republicans either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 5:01:35 PM #414:	Umbreon posted... Still no feasible suggestions given in this topic from people who insist they just can't vote Biden. A magical unicorn will descend from Hot Girl Heaven to make third party candidates viable again. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714503] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Still no feasible suggestions given in this topic from people who insist they just can't vote Biden.</quote>A magical unicorn will descend from Hot Girl Heaven to make third party candidates viable again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 5:01:40 PM #415:	hockeybabe89 posted... I'm voting for the person who isn't Trump. You are voting for one specific person who isn't Trump. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714507] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>I'm voting for the person who isn't Trump.</quote>You are voting for one specific person who isn't Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 5:01:42 PM #416:	Rika_Furude posted... I suggest voting for the lesser evil as opposed to supporting the greater evil. You dont get to twist that into a different meaning, troll Don't talk about supporting a genocide if you don't want people pointing out your own words. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714508] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>I suggest voting for the lesser evil as opposed to supporting the greater evil. You dont get to twist that into a different meaning, troll</quote>Don't talk about supporting a genocide if you don't want people pointing out your own words. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/03/24 5:01:53 PM #417:	Trumble posted... No, we definitely understand it, and it's why we don't support Republicans either. As stated earlier, not voting for Biden is factually a bigger help for trump since a lack of a voter turnout statistically helps republicans more so no, you actually are supporting trump if you continue to carry on with your I wont vote for either nonsense <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979714509] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>No, we definitely understand it, and it's why we don't support Republicans either.</quote>As stated earlier, not voting for Biden is factually a bigger help for trump since a lack of a voter turnout statistically helps republicans moreso no, you actually are supporting trump if you continue to carry on with your I wont vote for either nonsense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/03/24 5:02:42 PM #418:	Hornezz posted... It won't. How does arguing that 'sometimes genocide is needed for the greater good' helping Biden getting elected and preventing those republicans from getting power? Try being honest instead. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979714524] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>It won't.How does arguing that 'sometimes genocide is needed for the greater good' helping Biden getting elected and preventing those republicans from getting power?</quote>Try being honest instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 5:03:04 PM #419:	Trumble posted... You are voting for one specific person who isn't Trump. Because no one else has a chance Unless you believe RFK "Republican in a mask" is the answer in which case, please say so so I can cap it. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714530] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>You are voting for one specific person who isn't Trump.</quote>Because no one else has a chanceUnless you believe RFK "Republican in a mask" is the answer in which case, please say so so I can cap it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/03/24 5:03:09 PM #420:	Hornezz posted... Don't talk about supporting a genocide if you don't want people pointing out your own words. cute attempt but you failed in your original intention <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979714531] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Don't talk about supporting a genocide if you don't want people pointing out your own words.</quote>cute attempt but you failed in your original intention </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 5:04:20 PM #421:	Umbreon posted... Still no feasible suggestions given in this topic from people who insist they just can't vote Biden. Simple and straightforward answer: Biden can change his stance on Israel, use the massive leverage the US has over them and condition future arms sales and aid on Israel adhering to international human rights. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714546] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Still no feasible suggestions given in this topic from people who insist they just can't vote Biden.</quote>Simple and straightforward answer: Biden can change his stance on Israel, use the massive leverage the US has over them and condition future arms sales and aid on Israel adhering to international human rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 5:04:21 PM #422:	Rika_Furude posted... As stated earlier, not voting for Biden is factually a bigger help for trump since a lack of a voter turnout statistically helps republicans more so no, you actually are supporting trump if you continue to carry on with your I wont vote for either nonsense No, you're overlooking that my "vote" for Trump there is cancelled out by me also having a "vote" for Biden (by virtue of not voting for Trump). --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714548] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>As stated earlier, not voting for Biden is factually a bigger help for trump since a lack of a voter turnout statistically helps republicans moreso no, you actually are supporting trump if you continue to carry on with your I wont vote for either nonsense</quote>No, you're overlooking that my "vote" for Trump there is cancelled out by me also having a "vote" for Biden (by virtue of not voting for Trump). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:04:29 PM #423:	Trumble posted... You are voting for one specific person who isn't Trump. Oh man, now you're taking over someone else's life? Cripes, will you still have enough time to tell me everything I know and do? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714550] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>You are voting for one specific person who isn't Trump.</quote>Oh man, now you're taking over someone else's life? Cripes, will you still have enough time to tell me everything I know and do? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:06:06 PM #424:	Hornezz posted... Simple and straightforward answer: Biden can change his stance on Israel, use the massive leverage the US has over them and condition future arms sales and aid on Israel adhering to international human rights. So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714578] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Simple and straightforward answer: Biden can change his stance on Israel, use the massive leverage the US has over them and condition future arms sales and aid on Israel adhering to international human rights.</quote>So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:06:59 PM #426:	Trumble posted... No, you're overlooking that my "vote" for Trump there is cancelled out by me also having a "vote" for Biden (by virtue of not voting for Trump). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no0qB8CVspY --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714594] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>No, you're overlooking that my "vote" for Trump there is cancelled out by me also having a "vote" for Biden (by virtue of not voting for Trump).</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no0qB8CVspY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/03/24 5:07:04 PM #427:	Heineken14 posted... So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him. Hes just going to lie and dodge the question again. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979714597] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him.</quote>Hes just going to lie and dodge the question again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 5:07:05 PM #428:	Heineken14 posted... So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him. Waiting for the response to this. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714598] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him.</quote>Waiting for the response to this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 5:07:29 PM #429:	Cemith posted... Because no one else has a chance Unless you believe RFK "Republican in a mask" is the answer in which case, please say so so I can cap it. From what I know, he's basically Trump-lite? Would be better than Trump, probably (educated guess as I don't know him well enough) worse than Biden. I don't need to know every single American politician or have a specific preferred one in order to notice that nothing actually prevents Americans going a third route other than their own refusal to do so. I know that the two they're pretending are the only options are both awful; one significantly more so, but both of them to the point they should be nowhere near the presidency of a country that affects virtually the entire world politically and economically. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714604] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>Because no one else has a chanceUnless you believe RFK "Republican in a mask" is the answer in which case, please say so so I can cap it.</quote>From what I know, he's basically Trump-lite? Would be better than Trump, probably (educated guess as I don't know him well enough) worse than Biden.I don't need to know every single American politician or have a specific preferred one in order to notice that nothing actually prevents Americans going a third route other than their own refusal to do so. I know that the two they're pretending are the only options are both awful; one significantly more so, but both of them to the point they should be nowhere near the presidency of a country that affects virtually the entire world politically and economically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 5:07:51 PM #430:	Heineken14 posted... So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him. Those not voting for Biden over this issue can be convinced into voting for Biden if he actually changes his stance. And thus winning votes, and preventing Trump's win. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714611] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>So, how do you square that with the notion of not voting for Biden has the potential to put Donnie in office who will decidedly do NOT those things? That's not even getting into all of the other baggage that belongs to him.</quote>Those not voting for Biden over this issue can be convinced into voting for Biden if he actually changes his stance.And thus winning votes, and preventing Trump's win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/03/24 5:08:03 PM #431:	Hornezz posted... Simple and straightforward answer: Biden can change his stance on Israel, use the massive leverage the US has over them and condition future arms sales and aid on Israel adhering to international human rights. That'd be sweet if he did, and I sincerely hope he does. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979714614] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Simple and straightforward answer: Biden can change his stance on Israel, use the massive leverage the US has over them and condition future arms sales and aid on Israel adhering to international human rights.</quote>That'd be sweet if he did, and I sincerely hope he does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:08:23 PM #432:	Trumble posted... I don't need to know every single American politician or have a specific preferred one in order to notice that nothing actually prevents Americans So, you not even an American? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714619] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I don't need to know every single American politician or have a specific preferred one in order to notice that nothing actually prevents Americans</quote>So, you not even an American? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 5:09:29 PM #433:	Heineken14 posted... So, you not even an American? I thought it was common knowledge that I'm from NZ. And no, my opinion is not invalid, because your country's politics affect my country and almost every other country out there. Sure, it does mean I don't have much reason to give a shit about local or even state politics, but when it comes to federal shit, the rest of the world very much has a reason to care. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714637] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>So, you not even an American?</quote>I thought it was common knowledge that I'm from NZ.And no, my opinion is not invalid, because your country's politics affect my country and almost every other country out there. Sure, it does mean I don't have much reason to give a shit about local or even state politics, but when it comes to federal shit, the rest of the world very much has a reason to care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:09:43 PM #434:	Hornezz posted... Those not voting for Biden over this issue can be convinced into voting for Biden if he actually changes his stance. And thus winning votes, and preventing Trump's win. How do you convince Biden to change his stance? So far the only answer people have been able to muster is "I'm not voting for Biden." --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714641] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Those not voting for Biden over this issue can be convinced into voting for Biden if he actually changes his stance.And thus winning votes, and preventing Trump's win.</quote>How do you convince Biden to change his stance? So far the only answer people have been able to muster is "I'm not voting for Biden." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mistymermaid 04/03/24 5:10:02 PM #435:	Umbreon posted... Okay. Who should we push for a third candidate? My chances are slim. Atheists historically rarely win office. I've also expressed interest in platforms like replacing the roles of police, and LGBT rights (such as expanding access to transgender and mixed-gender sports). On the downside, past inconsistent remarks on abortion are a liability (the left's reservations are more sensible, than the right who already hates my views across the board anyway) --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. <cite>mistymermaid posted [p:979714648] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Okay. Who should we push for a third candidate?</quote>My chances are slim. Atheists historically rarely win office. I've also expressed interest in platforms like replacing the roles of police, and LGBT rights (such as expanding access to transgender and mixed-gender sports).On the downside, past inconsistent remarks on abortion are a liability (the left's reservations are more sensible, than the right who already hates my views across the board anyway) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/03/24 5:10:16 PM #436:	Trumble posted... No, you're overlooking that my "vote" for Trump there is cancelled out by me also having a "vote" for Biden (by virtue of not voting for Trump). You don't vote for anyone involved, because you aren't American. Concurrently, you seem to not understand basic realities of American elections. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979714654] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>No, you're overlooking that my "vote" for Trump there is cancelled out by me also having a "vote" for Biden (by virtue of not voting for Trump).</quote>You don't vote for anyone involved, because you aren't American.Concurrently, you seem to not understand basic realities of American elections. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:10:17 PM #437:	Trumble posted... I thought it was common knowledge that I'm from NZ. It was in fact, not. That does explain why you don't understand our presidential elections and why you keep harping on this mystery 3rd option though. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714655] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I thought it was common knowledge that I'm from NZ.</quote>It was in fact, not. That does explain why you don't understand our presidential elections and why you keep harping on this mystery 3rd option though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/03/24 5:11:18 PM #438:	Heineken14 posted... How do you convince Biden to change his stance? So far the only answer people have been able to muster is "I'm not voting for Biden." Told you he was going to lie. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979714669] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>How do you convince Biden to change his stance? So far the only answer people have been able to muster is "I'm not voting for Biden."</quote>Told you he was going to lie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 5:11:50 PM #439:	DrizztLink posted... You don't vote for anyone involved, because you aren't American. Irrelevant, as the general concept still applies to any American who doesn't vote. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714675] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>You don't vote for anyone involved, because you aren't American.</quote>Irrelevant, as the general concept still applies to any American who doesn't vote. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 04/03/24 5:12:07 PM #440:	Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025 ...they will, right? --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:979714683] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025...they will, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 04/03/24 5:12:29 PM #441:	Trumble posted... Irrelevant, as the general concept still applies to any American who doesn't vote. Try addressing the second part there, cap'n. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979714691] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Irrelevant, as the general concept still applies to any American who doesn't vote.</quote>Try addressing the second part there, cap'n. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/03/24 5:12:55 PM #442:	Trumble posted... Irrelevant, as the general concept still applies to any American who doesn't vote. The general concept of republicans being helped more by a lack of voter turnout is the reality that applies to any American who doesnt vote <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979714698] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Irrelevant, as the general concept still applies to any American who doesn't vote.</quote>The general concept of republicans being helped more by a lack of voter turnout is the reality that applies to any American who doesnt vote</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/03/24 5:13:10 PM #443:	Dude literally went on for pages about how we shouldn't reject 3rd parties as a viable option And he literally doesn't know any 3rd party candidates. Its all a virtue signal. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979714702] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Dude literally went on for pages about how we shouldn't reject 3rd parties as a viable option And he literally doesn't know any 3rd party candidates.Its all a virtue signal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/03/24 5:14:07 PM #444:	Gwynevere posted... Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025 ...they will, right? I asked them before and they all flipped the fuck out and cried --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979714720] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025...they will, right?</quote>I asked them before and they all flipped the fuck out and cried </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:14:19 PM #445:	Gwynevere posted... Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025 ...they will, right? And risk being arrested, beaten, and tear gassed? Slim chance. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714725] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025...they will, right?</quote>And risk being arrested, beaten, and tear gassed? Slim chance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 04/03/24 5:14:20 PM #446:	Heineken14 posted... How do you convince Biden to change his stance? So far the only answer people have been able to muster is "I'm not voting for Biden." Assuming you're not a billionaire lobbyist, the only sort of leverage anyone has is their vote. Threatening to withhold your vote will work if enough people do it. If appealing to his conscience by protests isn't working, then electoral pressure will. I don't think that Biden believes unconditional support for Israel is worth handing the keys over to Trump. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979714727] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>How do you convince Biden to change his stance? So far the only answer people have been able to muster is "I'm not voting for Biden."</quote>Assuming you're not a billionaire lobbyist, the only sort of leverage anyone has is their vote.Threatening to withhold your vote will work if enough people do it. If appealing to his conscience by protests isn't working, then electoral pressure will.I don't think that Biden believes unconditional support for Israel is worth handing the keys over to Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/03/24 5:15:24 PM #447:	Shadow_Don posted... Dude literally went on for pages about how we shouldn't reject 3rd parties as a viable option And he literally doesn't know any 3rd party candidates. Its all a virtue signal. Says the person who has spent multiple pages in multiple topics trying to convince everyone to vote for a candidate who supports genocide. Like, explain why the fuck I need to know a specific third party candidate in order to recognize that it's not a good idea to vote for a candidate who supports fucking genocide. You take such candidates out of the equation, third party is what's left. It's not fucking rocket science; I don't need a PhD in American politics to recognize that. Just a lack of whatever propaganda you've been fed your whole lives. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979714744] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Dude literally went on for pages about how we shouldn't reject 3rd parties as a viable option And he literally doesn't know any 3rd party candidates.Its all a virtue signal.</quote>Says the person who has spent multiple pages in multiple topics trying to convince everyone to vote for a candidate who supports genocide.Like, explain why the fuck I need to know a specific third party candidate in order to recognize that it's not a good idea to vote for a candidate who supports fucking genocide. You take such candidates out of the equation, third party is what's left. It's not fucking rocket science; I don't need a PhD in American politics to recognize that. Just a lack of whatever propaganda you've been fed your whole lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 5:15:43 PM #448:	Heineken14 posted... It was in fact, not. That does explain why you don't understand our presidential elections and why you keep harping on this mystery 3rd option though. This makes sense. It isn't common knowledge. Trumble posted... From what I know, he's basically Trump-lite? Would be better than Trump, probabl Fortunately the bar is that low. But he's still a conservative and is likely just as complicit in 2025 since he's, you know, a conspiracy theorist. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714749] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>It was in fact, not. That does explain why you don't understand our presidential elections and why you keep harping on this mystery 3rd option though.</quote>This makes sense. It isn't common knowledge.Trumble posted... </cite><quote>From what I know, he's basically Trump-lite? Would be better than Trump, probabl</quote>Fortunately the bar is that low. But he's still a conservative and is likely just as complicit in 2025 since he's, you know, a conspiracy theorist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/03/24 5:16:15 PM #449:	Gwynevere posted... Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025 ...they will, right? Abstainers when LGBT people are being put in camps: --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979714754] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Hopefully all the people staying home in November will join in the protests when Trump and the Republicans start enacting project 2025...they will, right?</quote>Abstainers when LGBT people are being put in camps: </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/03/24 5:16:27 PM #450:	Hornezz posted... Threatening to withhold your vote will work if enough people do it. Young people have been shit on for yonks and are only recently being given any sort of attention to by politicians. You want to know why? --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979714759] in Do u think... [t:80737505]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Threatening to withhold your vote will work if enough people do it.</quote>Young people have been shit on for yonks and are only recently being given any sort of attention to by politicians. You want to know why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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